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Bluenorthwest

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53. The OP is from Washington, a State which houses more than 3 times the prisoners Vermont does in the

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 08:28 AM

Apr 2016

same Michigan prison Vermont contracts with. Washington is the third largest out of State incarceration system. California's is by far the largest, nearly 8,000 people out of State.

So it is ironic when a person from a State that holds far more out of State prisoners than Vermont to seek to shame Vermont for doing that they do to a much greater extent. It's so hypocritical it almost qualifies as religious in nature.

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Where does bucolic VT house many of its prisoners? In private prisons, thousands of miles away [View all] pnwmom Apr 2016 OP

Too bad Bernie wasn't the governor and could have fixed it. revbones Apr 2016 #1

The OP isn't about Bernie. pnwmom Apr 2016 #5

Oh so it wasn't trying to subtly tie Bernie to private prisons because of VT? revbones Apr 2016 #10

If you want to talk about primary candidates, the place to do that is in GDP, not here. pnwmom Apr 2016 #13

Seems Sanders should have used his influence in the state to change that brush Apr 2016 #14

Clinton signed the crime bill targeting AA communities... HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #17

Don't you mean Bill Clinton? brush Apr 2016 #18

Yes, presidents sign bills. First Ladies only promote them. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #19

The people of Vermont should be extremely ashamed Hortensis Apr 2016 #46

The OP is from Washington, a State which houses more than 3 times the prisoners Vermont does in the Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #53

Yeah, and Clinton could have used her influence for more public housing funds in NY but she didn't. revbones Apr 2016 #24

You are suggesting he should primary a Democratic Governor? Downwinder Apr 2016 #22

No, that was a mistake. This OP isn't about Bernie. pnwmom Apr 2016 #23

Bernie ran unsuccessfully for governor in 1986 jg10003 Apr 2016 #27

He already tried, twice. Got 1.1% and 6.1% of the vote. George II Apr 2016 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #42

And I suppose we are to assume that somehow this is Bernie's fault, The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #2

Why are you assuming this is about Bernie? n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #4

Looks like your poutrage du jour. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #7

Please take your discussion out to GDP where it belongs. This isn't about any candidate. pnwmom Apr 2016 #11

Nope, that's about OPs, inside the thread we can discuss what we want Fumesucker Apr 2016 #16

You're the one making the connection, not me. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #20

uh huh... Texasgal Apr 2016 #29

It's not about Sanders, but since you mentioned it, he voted for the bills... George II Apr 2016 #33

Debbie Wasserman Schultz recently voted to send terminally ill people to prison for medical pot use Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #67

Well, maybe because it's about Vermont and not, say, Florida The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #8

I've spent a lot of time in Vermont, but not the other states you mention. pnwmom Apr 2016 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author m-lekktor Apr 2016 #25

Debbie Wasserman Schultz keeps voting to send sick people to prison for using medical marijuana Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #3

Take it up with Vermont Gov and legislature. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #6

This isn't about any US Senator. it's about Vermont and private prisons. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #12

Hillary favors private prisons. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #15

The candidates have the same position on private prisons, so this isn't about them. nt pnwmom Apr 2016 #21

"Hillary favors private prisons" - she never voted for them, Sanders did.... George II Apr 2016 #35

Suddenly, so much concern about Vermont in General Discussion! Scootaloo Apr 2016 #26

I think the OP and you are both in WA? WA houses about 1,000 prisoners in the same MI prison Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #52

For those who complain about private prisions here is an example of who are using the facilities. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #28

Fascinating. I hope the next POTUS, with the Congress's help, can make substantial reforms.... Hekate Apr 2016 #30

If Clinton is elected, she would get more help from Congress than Sanders would.... George II Apr 2016 #36

Why did you post this? 840high Apr 2016 #32

I didn't know some states exported their prisoners, and I think it's wrong. It's unfair to families. pnwmom Apr 2016 #34

It's a horrible problem - forcing the families of prisoners to either go to great expense... George II Apr 2016 #37

The State of Washington uses the same Michigan facility Vermont uses. Washington has many times Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #51

Vermont is mentioned xmas74 Apr 2016 #45

California has over 7,800 prisoners held out of State. Hawaii has over 1,300 in a dedicated Arizona Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #50

It's a shocking practice, that's all, and deserves more attention nationally. Hekate Apr 2016 #55

Why would I take it personally? The OP's State is one of the worst offenders, mine does not house Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #61

I did a simple search of the author. xmas74 Apr 2016 #69

It's a sleazy ploy to sway L.I.V.s who don't understand the structure of state vs. Federal gov't. nt Romulox Apr 2016 #63

You know what else sucks about VT? VT is one % black--but their prison population is 11% black. MADem Apr 2016 #38

Interesting. . . so that's helping to maintain that low level . . . pnwmom Apr 2016 #39

If you are black, and you get arrested in VT, the odds are good you're going to prison.... MADem Apr 2016 #40

That is interesting and troubling. So very many people moved to VT some 40+ years ago... Hekate Apr 2016 #41

It's not paradise. Another point -- they tried to get single payer passed in Vermont pnwmom Apr 2016 #43

I thought you said melman Apr 2016 #44

It wasn't, till everyone else pushed it that way. But I've fixed the post. Thanks. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #47

The State of Washington uses the same Michigan facility Vermont uses. Washington has many times Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #54

You do realize that the only "controlling" post in a thread is the FIRST one? MADem Apr 2016 #56

Right melman Apr 2016 #58

Not "cool story"--if you bothered to read the TOS and other regs around here, you'd know .... MADem Apr 2016 #59

Plenty familiar melman Apr 2016 #66

If you were familiar, then why do you ignore the TOS? MADem Apr 2016 #68

The USA is 13% black, USA prison populatoin is 40% black. It's a national issue. Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #49

Yeah but VT is ONE PERCENT black--and it's prison population is TEN percent. MADem Apr 2016 #57

MA has an incarceration rate 20% higher than the population rate. Vermont's is 10% higher. Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #60

This thread is about VT prisoners--not MA ones. nt MADem Apr 2016 #65

About shipping NE shit to SW rural States Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #48

Alaska and Hawaii do the same shit jmowreader Apr 2016 #62

Many states do that. Vinca Apr 2016 #64

Ironic, isn't it? bluedigger Apr 2016 #70