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Vinca

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64. Many states do that.

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 05:28 PM

Apr 2016

Curiously, there was just a proposal in southern Vermont for a facility and the public voted it down. If the voters don't support a project, the government can't shove it down their throats.

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Where does bucolic VT house many of its prisoners? In private prisons, thousands of miles away [View all] pnwmom Apr 2016 OP

Too bad Bernie wasn't the governor and could have fixed it. revbones Apr 2016 #1

The OP isn't about Bernie. pnwmom Apr 2016 #5

Oh so it wasn't trying to subtly tie Bernie to private prisons because of VT? revbones Apr 2016 #10

If you want to talk about primary candidates, the place to do that is in GDP, not here. pnwmom Apr 2016 #13

Seems Sanders should have used his influence in the state to change that brush Apr 2016 #14

Clinton signed the crime bill targeting AA communities... HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #17

Don't you mean Bill Clinton? brush Apr 2016 #18

Yes, presidents sign bills. First Ladies only promote them. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #19

The people of Vermont should be extremely ashamed Hortensis Apr 2016 #46

The OP is from Washington, a State which houses more than 3 times the prisoners Vermont does in the Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #53

Yeah, and Clinton could have used her influence for more public housing funds in NY but she didn't. revbones Apr 2016 #24

You are suggesting he should primary a Democratic Governor? Downwinder Apr 2016 #22

No, that was a mistake. This OP isn't about Bernie. pnwmom Apr 2016 #23

Bernie ran unsuccessfully for governor in 1986 jg10003 Apr 2016 #27

He already tried, twice. Got 1.1% and 6.1% of the vote. George II Apr 2016 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #42

And I suppose we are to assume that somehow this is Bernie's fault, The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #2

Why are you assuming this is about Bernie? n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #4

Looks like your poutrage du jour. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #7

Please take your discussion out to GDP where it belongs. This isn't about any candidate. pnwmom Apr 2016 #11

Nope, that's about OPs, inside the thread we can discuss what we want Fumesucker Apr 2016 #16

You're the one making the connection, not me. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #20

uh huh... Texasgal Apr 2016 #29

It's not about Sanders, but since you mentioned it, he voted for the bills... George II Apr 2016 #33

Debbie Wasserman Schultz recently voted to send terminally ill people to prison for medical pot use Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #67

Well, maybe because it's about Vermont and not, say, Florida The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #8

I've spent a lot of time in Vermont, but not the other states you mention. pnwmom Apr 2016 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author m-lekktor Apr 2016 #25

Debbie Wasserman Schultz keeps voting to send sick people to prison for using medical marijuana Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #3

Take it up with Vermont Gov and legislature. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #6

This isn't about any US Senator. it's about Vermont and private prisons. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #12

Hillary favors private prisons. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #15

The candidates have the same position on private prisons, so this isn't about them. nt pnwmom Apr 2016 #21

"Hillary favors private prisons" - she never voted for them, Sanders did.... George II Apr 2016 #35

Suddenly, so much concern about Vermont in General Discussion! Scootaloo Apr 2016 #26

I think the OP and you are both in WA? WA houses about 1,000 prisoners in the same MI prison Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #52

For those who complain about private prisions here is an example of who are using the facilities. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #28

Fascinating. I hope the next POTUS, with the Congress's help, can make substantial reforms.... Hekate Apr 2016 #30

If Clinton is elected, she would get more help from Congress than Sanders would.... George II Apr 2016 #36

Why did you post this? 840high Apr 2016 #32

I didn't know some states exported their prisoners, and I think it's wrong. It's unfair to families. pnwmom Apr 2016 #34

It's a horrible problem - forcing the families of prisoners to either go to great expense... George II Apr 2016 #37

The State of Washington uses the same Michigan facility Vermont uses. Washington has many times Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #51

Vermont is mentioned xmas74 Apr 2016 #45

California has over 7,800 prisoners held out of State. Hawaii has over 1,300 in a dedicated Arizona Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #50

It's a shocking practice, that's all, and deserves more attention nationally. Hekate Apr 2016 #55

Why would I take it personally? The OP's State is one of the worst offenders, mine does not house Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #61

I did a simple search of the author. xmas74 Apr 2016 #69

It's a sleazy ploy to sway L.I.V.s who don't understand the structure of state vs. Federal gov't. nt Romulox Apr 2016 #63

You know what else sucks about VT? VT is one % black--but their prison population is 11% black. MADem Apr 2016 #38

Interesting. . . so that's helping to maintain that low level . . . pnwmom Apr 2016 #39

If you are black, and you get arrested in VT, the odds are good you're going to prison.... MADem Apr 2016 #40

That is interesting and troubling. So very many people moved to VT some 40+ years ago... Hekate Apr 2016 #41

It's not paradise. Another point -- they tried to get single payer passed in Vermont pnwmom Apr 2016 #43

I thought you said melman Apr 2016 #44

It wasn't, till everyone else pushed it that way. But I've fixed the post. Thanks. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #47

The State of Washington uses the same Michigan facility Vermont uses. Washington has many times Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #54

You do realize that the only "controlling" post in a thread is the FIRST one? MADem Apr 2016 #56

Right melman Apr 2016 #58

Not "cool story"--if you bothered to read the TOS and other regs around here, you'd know .... MADem Apr 2016 #59

Plenty familiar melman Apr 2016 #66

If you were familiar, then why do you ignore the TOS? MADem Apr 2016 #68

The USA is 13% black, USA prison populatoin is 40% black. It's a national issue. Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #49

Yeah but VT is ONE PERCENT black--and it's prison population is TEN percent. MADem Apr 2016 #57

MA has an incarceration rate 20% higher than the population rate. Vermont's is 10% higher. Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #60

This thread is about VT prisoners--not MA ones. nt MADem Apr 2016 #65

About shipping NE shit to SW rural States Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #48

Alaska and Hawaii do the same shit jmowreader Apr 2016 #62

Many states do that. Vinca Apr 2016 #64

Ironic, isn't it? bluedigger Apr 2016 #70