It is a Democratic Party Primary... (Reply #23)

In the discussion thread: 27 Percent of New York’s Registered Voters Won’t Be Able to Vote in the State’s Primary [View all]

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Mon Apr 18, 2016, 02:27 PM

LiberalFighter (43,945 posts)

23. It is a Democratic Party Primary...

Not a "Anybody Party Primary".

If they don't want to be associated with the Democratic Party then they should not be deciding the nominee.

49.1% Democrats
23.8% Republicans
01.4% Conservative
00.2% Green Party
00.4% Working Families
04.0% Independence
00.0%+ Women's Eqaulity
00.0%+ Reform Party
00.0%+ Other
20.9% No Party Specified

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222 replies	Author	Time	Post
27 Percent of New York’s Registered Voters Won’t Be Able to Vote in the State’s Primary [View all]	babylonsister	Apr 2016	OP
New York State has some of the country's lowest turnout, NYC is even lower than the State and	Bluenorthwest	Apr 2016	#1
+1	daleanime	Apr 2016	#6
Many of DU Hillary NYs are astonished that you call for action a day before the primary,	beastie boy	Apr 2016	#14
We are very aware that it is too late for the primaries	unapatriciated	Apr 2016	#43
Guess what: I do care about GE.	beastie boy	Apr 2016	#58
Um, in the General Election EVERYONE can vote.	brooklynite	Apr 2016	#98
And in Alabama, where I was raised, while population is over 40% black, it remains Republican...	Jeffersons Ghost	Apr 2016	#145
But the point is that in NY everyone can vote in the GE, they just don't much bother to do so.	Bluenorthwest	Apr 2016	#182
Similarly, many of Bernie's supporters are astonished that Hillary's supporters are ok with	Loudestlib	Apr 2016	#50
Remind me please: who sued the Arizona Election Board? Was it Bernie's campaign?	beastie boy	Apr 2016	#61
The two campaigns and the dem party	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2016	#65
Actually, it was the DNC and the HRC Campaign that filed the joint lawsuit.	stopbush	Apr 2016	#73
You might want to try mother Jones	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2016	#76
Actually, Hillary supporters are OK with Democrats picking the Democratic nominee.	stopbush	Apr 2016	#63
I agree. Close them everywhere	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2016	#67
Taxpayers do pay for primaries. That's a problem, pay but no play.	Loudestlib	Apr 2016	#77
I know. That is why I am saying	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2016	#80
My State has none of those issue, friend. NY has the problems, not my State.	Bluenorthwest	Apr 2016	#181
Not getting your way =/= disenfranchisement	CrowCityDem	Apr 2016	#2
Excuse me?	babylonsister	Apr 2016	#3
Every vote does count, so long as you're registered.	CrowCityDem	Apr 2016	#4
Last year....	daleanime	Apr 2016	#7
And what if you've been unregistered?	zalinda	Apr 2016	#10
Why should you get to pick the candidate if it's not your party?	Orrex	Apr 2016	#13
What if you just made up your mind?	elljay	Apr 2016	#22
How often does that happen, exactly?	Orrex	Apr 2016	#32
I don't disagree	elljay	Apr 2016	#89
Why	Proud Liberal Dem	Apr 2016	#70
We're not typical	elljay	Apr 2016	#87
Good points.	randome	Apr 2016	#108
A refreshingly rational post	Proud Liberal Dem	Apr 2016	#152
So no one in an open primary state should be able to pick a candidate?	Art_from_Ark	Apr 2016	#131
If that's your opinion, then good for you.	Orrex	Apr 2016	#137
You wrote, and I quote, "Why should you get to pick the candidate if it's not your party?"	Art_from_Ark	Apr 2016	#139
If that's your opinion, then good for you.	Orrex	Apr 2016	#153
So once again, you are saying, indirectly, that voters in open primary states	Art_from_Ark	Apr 2016	#162
No, once again, YOU are saying that.	Orrex	Apr 2016	#164
YAY DEMOCRACY!!!! ...only for those in parties, and who register 3 months in advance, and	nashville_brook	Apr 2016	#207
You're unfairly conflating several issues there	Orrex	Apr 2016	#209
Register in a party and vote in that party's primary	brush	Apr 2016	#204
once it is a primary and the gov't is paying it should have to make voting accessable	questionseverything	Apr 2016	#168
That will require a constitutional amendment. Go for it!	beastie boy	Apr 2016	#16
In NY?	SickOfTheOnePct	Apr 2016	#93
Including NY	beastie boy	Apr 2016	#95
None of that	SickOfTheOnePct	Apr 2016	#97
Oops. My bad. Too many threads going on.	beastie boy	Apr 2016	#110
Maybe next time YOU'LL LISTEN TO HER!	randome	Apr 2016	#115
I will. Promise. nt	beastie boy	Apr 2016	#121
How to spot a Republicrat.	Kip Humphrey	Apr 2016	#29
This sound remarkably like the republican bigots here in georgia	hueymahl	Apr 2016	#183
I'd be pissed if you were a Registered Republican, and got to screw around in the Dem nominating....	Tarheel_Dem	Apr 2016	#34
Like HRC has never created a phony voter disenfranchisement argument before	WolverineDG	Apr 2016	#69
You can sell that "BS" elsewhere, cuz I'm not buyin'.	Tarheel_Dem	Apr 2016	#111
Keep your head in the sand	WolverineDG	Apr 2016	#126
Et tu!	Tarheel_Dem	Apr 2016	#146
"which is set in law"	progressoid	Apr 2016	#169
What's "arcane" is concerned voters not taking ownership of their responsibility to follow the rules	Tarheel_Dem	Apr 2016	#213
And what about those people who sincerely want to join the party?	progressoid	Apr 2016	#215
Tough shit.	Tarheel_Dem	Apr 2016	#216
Nice.	progressoid	Apr 2016	#220
Exactly. Thank you.	NurseJackie	Apr 2016	#9
Disenfranchisement = disenfranchisement	Scootaloo	Apr 2016	#31
Should voter registration be required of anyone at all?	Orrex	Apr 2016	#33
Well, being dropped from the rolls and having your registration changed without consultation	Scootaloo	Apr 2016	#40
Agreed, but that's not what we're talking about here	Orrex	Apr 2016	#46
Yeah, it's not as it anyone had been bringing this up until just today oh wait	Scootaloo	Apr 2016	#49
Who's calling it great? Please be specific.	Orrex	Apr 2016	#56
Well, if you support it, if you defend it, if you defend it you must feel it is great. Worth having.	Scootaloo	Apr 2016	#132
You're misrepresenting my position.	Orrex	Apr 2016	#136
Here in Maryland	qwlauren35	Apr 2016	#148
I'm down with that	Orrex	Apr 2016	#156
Another post that uses the same talking points used by bigoted republicans here in georgia.	hueymahl	Apr 2016	#184
Feel better now?	Orrex	Apr 2016	#186
Not really. Voter suppression, regardless of the party, never feels good.	hueymahl	Apr 2016	#187
The registration deadline is indeed stupid, as has been stated repeatedly	Orrex	Apr 2016	#193
We are on the same page on that point	hueymahl	Apr 2016	#196
My initial thought was a 30-day cutoff	Orrex	Apr 2016	#198
Not understanding the law in time = self disenfranchisement	CrowCityDem	Apr 2016	#35
I look forward to your advocacy for poll taxes and literacy tests,CrowCityDem	Scootaloo	Apr 2016	#41
False analogy	Orrex	Apr 2016	#59
Yet another post that uses the same talking points used by bigoted republicans here in georgia	hueymahl	Apr 2016	#185
Doesn't equal inclusion either.	mwooldri	Apr 2016	#167
Any patterns in who is being flipped?	jwirr	Apr 2016	#5
No data.	Igel	Apr 2016	#75
Of course the Clintonites don't want it now.. but 2 years ago...	basselope	Apr 2016	#8
The time to correct this isn't a week before the primary	Orrex	Apr 2016	#12
We SHOULD have open primaries everywhere.	basselope	Apr 2016	#17
Then be prepared for the teabaggers messing with your party's primaries to their advantage	beastie boy	Apr 2016	#19
Yeah, and voter ID laws protect against in person voter fraud.	basselope	Apr 2016	#37
Voter ID???? Seriously,	beastie boy	Apr 2016	#55
It's called an equivalent.	basselope	Apr 2016	#94
No way is it an equivalent.	beastie boy	Apr 2016	#99
Yes, it is EXACTLY an equivalent.	basselope	Apr 2016	#101
no, it is not.	beastie boy	Apr 2016	#112
No. 0 primaries were affected.	basselope	Apr 2016	#113
If facts disagree with your opinion, damn the facts, right?	beastie boy	Apr 2016	#123
You cite OPINIONS and call them facts?	basselope	Apr 2016	#130
Add 25% independent voters to your calculation.	beastie boy	Apr 2016	#140
Again.. those pesky facts get in your way.	basselope	Apr 2016	#144
Well said. Only OPEN primaries equate to actual democracy.	ReallyIAmAnOptimist	Apr 2016	#208
very unlikely.	restorefreedom	Apr 2016	#62
Don't be so sure.	beastie boy	Apr 2016	#64
limbaughs metal heads will be few in number	restorefreedom	Apr 2016	#88
Over 13 million listeners weekly. Don't kid yourself	beastie boy	Apr 2016	#91
doesn't mean they are all willing	restorefreedom	Apr 2016	#116
Depends on the primaries	beastie boy	Apr 2016	#120
and it can work the other way, too	restorefreedom	Apr 2016	#122
Yes it can. Doesn't make it fair, though.	beastie boy	Apr 2016	#124
perhaps not. but what do you make of the computer glitch	restorefreedom	Apr 2016	#125
Record oversight is a difeent issue	beastie boy	Apr 2016	#134
much of this apparently was done online	restorefreedom	Apr 2016	#138
Those of us who are skeptical of anything done online have the option of creating PDF files for our	beastie boy	Apr 2016	#141
i hope they look into it	restorefreedom	Apr 2016	#147
Not if incumbants are running n/t	MichMan	Apr 2016	#212
Independents are free to vote as they wish in the general election	Orrex	Apr 2016	#20
Because we actually want GOOD candidates.	basselope	Apr 2016	#38
Then join the party	Orrex	Apr 2016	#45
Why do I have to waste the paper?	basselope	Apr 2016	#102
It's not suppression. That's a lie.	Orrex	Apr 2016	#106
It's voter suppression. Deal with it.	basselope	Apr 2016	#107
You're full of shenanigans. Deal with it.	Orrex	Apr 2016	#133
No.	basselope	Apr 2016	#142
No, I won't. You're even less than insignificant.	Orrex	Apr 2016	#154
Yeah.. it does.	basselope	Apr 2016	#157
The more you squawk, the less significant you become.	Orrex	Apr 2016	#159
No, just the opposite.	basselope	Apr 2016	#160
I love the screenplay dialogues in the movie "The Breakfast Club".	King_Klonopin	Apr 2016	#170
Puh-leeze.	Orrex	Apr 2016	#178
If you refuse to see that calling someone "less than insignificant" is complete assholery	King_Klonopin	Apr 2016	#221
So you'll be voting for Clinton, then?	Orrex	Apr 2016	#222
Bullshit.	djg21	Apr 2016	#135
It's STILL voter surpression.	basselope	Apr 2016	#143
So, join the Party and vote for your choice.	brooklynite	Apr 2016	#100
I did, and i will be leaving the day after I vote.	basselope	Apr 2016	#103
As a former Ward Committeeman, I thought that Parties derived from the grassroots...	brooklynite	Apr 2016	#114
Whatever they WERE at one time has become a den of corruption.	basselope	Apr 2016	#118
I'll keep working to improve things from the inside...	brooklynite	Apr 2016	#119
Oh yeah.. your strategy has worked SO WELL.	basselope	Apr 2016	#129
The let Independents have a primary	leftynyc	Apr 2016	#30
For the same reason we have voter ID laws to protect against in person voter fraud.	basselope	Apr 2016	#42
You mean	leftynyc	Apr 2016	#44
Actually... it is a tough one.	basselope	Apr 2016	#47
And it got him nowhere	leftynyc	Apr 2016	#51
Yes, that is a very tiny bubble.	basselope	Apr 2016	#92
Can you give me the	leftynyc	Apr 2016	#171
Hardly a "wild guess".	basselope	Apr 2016	#214
Then find an Independent candidate	GulfCoast66	Apr 2016	#161
If Sanders is not the nominee, I will be.	basselope	Apr 2016	#163
Do as you will. No attack from me	GulfCoast66	Apr 2016	#165
I agree with you. This Oct thing is stupid.	all american girl	Apr 2016	#36
I agree, close em all	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2016	#71
Any evidence of the Clintons not wanting it now except... it's too late now?	beastie boy	Apr 2016	#18
New York has it's traditions....	Spitfire of ATJ	Apr 2016	#11
I really hope that this year prompt some severe action on voting rights by our next president	Fast Walker 52	Apr 2016	#15
Be careful what you are wishing for (nightmare scenario: President Cruz)	beastie boy	Apr 2016	#21
haha, indeed	Fast Walker 52	Apr 2016	#90
The federal government is limited on what they can do.	LiberalFighter	Apr 2016	#26
It is a Democratic Party Primary...	LiberalFighter	Apr 2016	#23
IMO, this cannot be stressed	BlueMTexpat	Apr 2016	#48
Agreed. Primaries should be closed. We are selecting a candidate, not electing anyone to	stopbush	Apr 2016	#54
Great find and one that should be	BlueMTexpat	Apr 2016	#57
It must be Hillary's fault.	Kingofalldems	Apr 2016	#24
This has been New York's law for DECADES, so unless she time-traveled and got their legislators	pnwmom	Apr 2016	#53
Of course, she time-traveled back	Proud Liberal Dem	Apr 2016	#74
Some of us appreciate your effort to keep the conspiracy theorists frothing with anger	LonePirate	Apr 2016	#82
It was sarcasm.	Kingofalldems	Apr 2016	#78
Since many people here think she "rigged" it, your post might benefit from a smilie.	pnwmom	Apr 2016	#79
The state of New York,,,,,,	SmittynMo	Apr 2016	#25
It's viewed that way because	Igel	Apr 2016	#84
We need a nationwide voting policy and system.	SoapBox	Apr 2016	#27
Remember, a lot of laws are state by state.	Igel	Apr 2016	#85
There is no right to vote in a party's primary.	NobodyHere	Apr 2016	#203
You can blame this on	RoccoR5955	Apr 2016	#28
Yeah, maybe an update...into the 2000's might be nice. n/t	all american girl	Apr 2016	#39
Boy did they reform Alabama...	Jeffersons Ghost	Apr 2016	#52
In 68 years of living in and around New York City, I never heard anyone complain about....	George II	Apr 2016	#60
Exactly. It's incumbent on every RESPONSIBLE citizen to make the effort	stopbush	Apr 2016	#66
You are right. They should make the rules tougher. Require literacy tests at least, or a poll tax	hueymahl	Apr 2016	#189
Because it's so tough to go online and check the voting rules	stopbush	Apr 2016	#200
To go online you need access to a computer and internet	hueymahl	Apr 2016	#201
Or you make a phone call to the BoE. Or you can call the offices	stopbush	Apr 2016	#202
As our friend Peggysue says, the hitchhikers are demanding the car keys again.	Squinch	Apr 2016	#86
How is the air up there on your high horse?	hueymahl	Apr 2016	#190
If New York did not do its best to disenfranchise its voters, it would be	mhatrw	Apr 2016	#68
This is correct. The drop off in participation from 2010 to 2014:	Bluenorthwest	Apr 2016	#191
Forget the primaries. I find it disturbing that a BLUE state doesn't have	octoberlib	Apr 2016	#72
Well said! When this happens in a red state, it's proof that the republicans are looking to	hughee99	Apr 2016	#81
I guess NY Democrats also want to suppress the vote of the poor and minorities.	octoberlib	Apr 2016	#83
nope, it is the republicans who control it. so fed up with the BS.	bettyellen	Apr 2016	#173
NY State House is in Democratic control by a large margin....	Bluenorthwest	Apr 2016	#195
This is an inconvenient truth	hueymahl	Apr 2016	#192
Kicked and recommended.	Uncle Joe	Apr 2016	#96
+63,558	dchill	Apr 2016	#104
I don't have a problem with Democrats choosing Democratic candidates. I wish my candidate	pampango	Apr 2016	#105
NY should be ashamed of these antiquated laws. Progressives support OPEN primaries.	Zen Democrat	Apr 2016	#109
Same day registration, fine, but why should I support an Open primary?	MadBadger	Apr 2016	#155
So 27% of New York voters are independent, unaffiliated,	Agnosticsherbet	Apr 2016	#117
Because they didn't pay attention to the rules which were set lang before deadlines	liberal N proud	Apr 2016	#127
Pretty soon...	malokvale77	Apr 2016	#128
Are you guys still crying about this?	vdogg	Apr 2016	#149
Forty Years of Freefall in New York Voter Turnout	Bluenorthwest	Apr 2016	#197
Lol, proud of crappy turnout?	vdogg	Apr 2016	#199
K&R	emsimon33	Apr 2016	#150
They made that choice by not choosing a party.	RandySF	Apr 2016	#151
This is very, very troubling	Marrah_G	Apr 2016	#158
"The state of New York has no same-day registration. The state of New York has no preregistration."	Thor_MN	Apr 2016	#166
Hillary...Where Hope Goes To Die	billhicks76	Apr 2016	#172
DU...Where right wingers go to troll	Democat	Apr 2016	#177
Your Comment Is An Unfunny Joke	billhicks76	Apr 2016	#217
It serves the purposes of those that profit from the status quo.	Enthusiast	Apr 2016	#174
Exactly	elleng	Apr 2016	#176
Bingo - that is the reason for virtually all restrictive voter registration laws	hueymahl	Apr 2016	#194
Republicans want to vote in Democratic elections and we should care?	Democat	Apr 2016	#175
Crossover mischief can happen	MichMan	Apr 2016	#179
That's a Straw Man. NY's election problems are not because it has a closed primary. My State has a	Bluenorthwest	Apr 2016	#188
There's a long history	zentrum	Apr 2016	#180
ALL registered voters in New York are able to vote in the primaries, they just had to register...	George II	Apr 2016	#205
The lies just keep on pouring out	Tarc	Apr 2016	#206
That's fair enough.	JoeyT	Apr 2016	#210
It's you conscience, bro	Tarc	Apr 2016	#211
That only counts if you're only counting Americans.	JoeyT	Apr 2016	#218
Because they chose not to be a member of a party when they registered	oberliner	Apr 2016	#219

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