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muriel_volestrangler

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27. "impossible to provide such proof for these disciplines"

Mon Apr 18, 2016, 04:48 PM

Apr 2016

That's right, the Swiss have decided that homeopathy and the other claims can never "prove their “efficacy, cost-effectiveness and suitability”". They've admitted they can't show they're effective, even when given 5 years to show it.

After being rejected in 2005 by the authorities for lack of scientific proof of their efficacy, complementary and alternative medicines made a comeback in 2009 when two-thirds of Swiss backed their inclusion on the constitutional list of paid health services.

As a result of the vote, these treatments are covered by basic compulsory insurance as part of six-year trial period from 2012-2017. However, they were all required to prove their “efficacy, cost-effectiveness and suitability” by 2017.

In a statement released on Tuesday, the interior ministry said it had come to the conclusion that it was “impossible to provide such proof for these disciplines in their entirety”.

So they know they can't show they work, but they want their insurance to cover it anyway.

Yes, the Swiss people are able to be stupid.

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Zika Virus Prompts "Homeopaths Without Borders" To Potentiate Ineptitude [View all] HuckleB Apr 2016 OP

I thought this was the Onion... damn yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #1

If only... HuckleB Apr 2016 #2

What a frightening concept. procon Apr 2016 #3

Homeopaths market themselves rather brilliantly, unfortunately. HuckleB Apr 2016 #7

When I saw "Homeopaths Without Borders" I assumed it was a fake news story. Iggo Apr 2016 #4

Indeed. It should be a fake news story. HuckleB Apr 2016 #37

Swiss recognise homeopathy as legitimate medicine AxionExcel Apr 2016 #5

So you're saying the Swiss don't care about the reality that homeopathy is bunk? HuckleB Apr 2016 #6

Must own shares in a well REP Apr 2016 #8

It's so good that someone is willing to regularly & systematically attack holistic health AxionExcel Apr 2016 #13

#1 adverse reaction to homeopathy when used to treat a dangerous disease: death NickB79 Apr 2016 #15

"Holistic Health." HuckleB Apr 2016 #16

Homeopathy isn't 'holistic health'. It's fraud. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #35

+1 BuddhaGirl Apr 2016 #10

Yeah, selling people worthless crap is so awesome! HuckleB Apr 2016 #18

I don't expect you to understand why people use homeopathy BuddhaGirl Apr 2016 #22

I understand that selling worthless products as health remedies is a scam. HuckleB Apr 2016 #23

YMMV BuddhaGirl Apr 2016 #25

It's been shown to be worthless. It is now nothing but a scam. HuckleB Apr 2016 #26

Again, YMMV BuddhaGirl Apr 2016 #31

Your belief does not make it so. HuckleB Apr 2016 #32

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #39

Evidence and efficacy isn't about belief EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2016 #41

Because they are gullible, ignorant or desperate, the fact is those who sell... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #36

Are you able to cite peer-reviewed, double-blind, scientific studies that show homeopathy is cleanhippie Apr 2016 #17

Citing a single study or two is really beside the point, however. HuckleB Apr 2016 #19

You need to ask your question of Switzerland AxionExcel Apr 2016 #20

Someone just showed us that he/she isn't reading post responses. HuckleB Apr 2016 #21

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #28

And another pointless response, with another logical fallacy attached. HuckleB Apr 2016 #30

"impossible to provide such proof for these disciplines" muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #27

If you are using a toaster over to try and measure the distance from the Earth to the Moon... AxionExcel Apr 2016 #33

So you're saying people should accept the effectiveness of homeopathy on faith, then? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #34

How is it that faith healing gets support at DU? HuckleB Apr 2016 #51

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IOW, your answer is a firm "no, I cannot do that". cleanhippie Apr 2016 #38

Meanwhile, that poster is promoting this harmful scam in a new OP. HuckleB Apr 2016 #43

You need to ask yourself a question of Science. cleanhippie Apr 2016 #45

It's downright scary. HuckleB Apr 2016 #44

No, it doesn't. HuckleB Apr 2016 #40

And they also didn't recognise women as legitimate voters till the 1970s. It's a nice country LeftishBrit May 2016 #52

If HWB is bringing large quantities of sterilized water ... REP Apr 2016 #9

Something tells me they're not bringing water trucks with them. HuckleB Apr 2016 #24

I think part of this is because some use "homeopathic" "holistic" and "herbal" as interchangeable. RadiationTherapy Apr 2016 #11

And the DU ad? Make Powerful Healing Water. SMH Rex Apr 2016 #12

Taken in large quantities, it can save those dying of thirst REP Apr 2016 #14

Scary. DU gives this OP the same number of likes as a pro-homeopathy OP. HuckleB Apr 2016 #42

funny thing is homeopathy spread as a treatment because vaccines had become popular MisterP Apr 2016 #46

Oh, goodness. You are also promoting homeopathy? HuckleB Apr 2016 #47

And, no, homeopathy is not comparable to vaccines. HuckleB Apr 2016 #48

sucker born every minute.... dembotoz Apr 2016 #49

Every second, it seems. HuckleB Apr 2016 #50