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In reply to the discussion: To hell with blaming Barack Obama for Wisconsin. [View all]stupidicus
(2,570 posts)outta dems, and you haven't provided any examples of it.
All I've largely seen is disappointment over less participation in the race on his part than some would have desired, which could and perhaps would result in some measure of responsibility to him for the loss by them -- a minority no doubt -- but hardly the lion's share as your hollow declaration suggests.
Perhaps maybe the distinction is too subtle for you, or in the more likely alternative, you can't make the case that more of an effort on his part wouldn't have had an impact. Both camps are on equal footing here, since we'll never know.
Whether it would have been enough or not isn't the issue, but rather whether more involvement on his part would have had any.
And of course the suggestion that people "organize" is a no-brainer, since without concerted help from the leadership in DC this indicates, what other options are there besides resignation to defeat.
SO what we're left with, is some calling his efforts "token" in nature and effect, and others incapable of refuting that given the reasonable nature of it, exaggerating what they are saying in an effort to admonish them for it, because essentially it appears, BHO can do no wrong -- the implication on your part in this case for sure.
The biggest reasons for the loss based on the known facts is kochsucker money and the unpalatibility of the recall election period to too many.
So by all means, give us a top post declaring those that blame or took offense to Obama's token efforts are ignorant of those "facts".
If they aren't, then their complaints are more if not exclusively about his token efforts, not "blame" like he coulda overcome the what, 60% hurdle that thought the recall outta line from the onset?
"Tis far, far better...." is what they're complaining about, and his lack of it.
and no, that this is all the product of his political calculus doesn't matter either, since we don't know it was correct either.
For example, what happened in the black community after he evolved? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/keith-boykin/black-community-gay-marriage_b_1567781.html Perhaps maybe another "evolution" on his part would have benefitted the WI "revolution" in ways only actually doing so coulda shown, no?