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168. once it is a primary and the gov't is paying it should have to make voting accessable
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:15 AM
Apr 2016

ny making the change date 6 months ahead of the primary is overly restrictive, couple that with the register data bases problems and an open primary would be fair

New York State has some of the country's lowest turnout, NYC is even lower than the State and Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #1
+1 daleanime Apr 2016 #6
Many of DU Hillary NYs are astonished that you call for action a day before the primary, beastie boy Apr 2016 #14
We are very aware that it is too late for the primaries unapatriciated Apr 2016 #43
Guess what: I do care about GE. beastie boy Apr 2016 #58
Um, in the General Election EVERYONE can vote. brooklynite Apr 2016 #98
And in Alabama, where I was raised, while population is over 40% black, it remains Republican... Jeffersons Ghost Apr 2016 #145
But the point is that in NY everyone can vote in the GE, they just don't much bother to do so. Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #182
Similarly, many of Bernie's supporters are astonished that Hillary's supporters are ok with Loudestlib Apr 2016 #50
Remind me please: who sued the Arizona Election Board? Was it Bernie's campaign? beastie boy Apr 2016 #61
The two campaigns and the dem party nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #65
Actually, it was the DNC and the HRC Campaign that filed the joint lawsuit. stopbush Apr 2016 #73
You might want to try mother Jones nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #76
Actually, Hillary supporters are OK with Democrats picking the Democratic nominee. stopbush Apr 2016 #63
I agree. Close them everywhere nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #67
Taxpayers do pay for primaries. That's a problem, pay but no play. Loudestlib Apr 2016 #77
I know. That is why I am saying nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #80
My State has none of those issue, friend. NY has the problems, not my State. Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #181
Not getting your way =/= disenfranchisement CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #2
Excuse me? babylonsister Apr 2016 #3
Every vote does count, so long as you're registered. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #4
Last year.... daleanime Apr 2016 #7
And what if you've been unregistered? zalinda Apr 2016 #10
Why should you get to pick the candidate if it's not your party? Orrex Apr 2016 #13
What if you just made up your mind? elljay Apr 2016 #22
How often does that happen, exactly? Orrex Apr 2016 #32
I don't disagree elljay Apr 2016 #89
Why Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2016 #70
We're not typical elljay Apr 2016 #87
Good points. randome Apr 2016 #108
A refreshingly rational post Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2016 #152
So no one in an open primary state should be able to pick a candidate? Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #131
If that's your opinion, then good for you. Orrex Apr 2016 #137
You wrote, and I quote, "Why should you get to pick the candidate if it's not your party?" Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #139
If that's your opinion, then good for you. Orrex Apr 2016 #153
So once again, you are saying, indirectly, that voters in open primary states Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #162
No, once again, YOU are saying that. Orrex Apr 2016 #164
YAY DEMOCRACY!!!! ...only for those in parties, and who register 3 months in advance, and nashville_brook Apr 2016 #207
You're unfairly conflating several issues there Orrex Apr 2016 #209
Register in a party and vote in that party's primary brush Apr 2016 #204
once it is a primary and the gov't is paying it should have to make voting accessable questionseverything Apr 2016 #168
That will require a constitutional amendment. Go for it! beastie boy Apr 2016 #16
In NY? SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2016 #93
Including NY beastie boy Apr 2016 #95
None of that SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2016 #97
Oops. My bad. Too many threads going on. beastie boy Apr 2016 #110
Maybe next time YOU'LL LISTEN TO HER! randome Apr 2016 #115
I will. Promise. nt beastie boy Apr 2016 #121
How to spot a Republicrat. Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #29
This sound remarkably like the republican bigots here in georgia hueymahl Apr 2016 #183
I'd be pissed if you were a Registered Republican, and got to screw around in the Dem nominating.... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2016 #34
Like HRC has never created a phony voter disenfranchisement argument before WolverineDG Apr 2016 #69
You can sell that "BS" elsewhere, cuz I'm not buyin'. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2016 #111
Keep your head in the sand WolverineDG Apr 2016 #126
Et tu! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2016 #146
"which is set in law" progressoid Apr 2016 #169
What's "arcane" is concerned voters not taking ownership of their responsibility to follow the rules Tarheel_Dem Apr 2016 #213
And what about those people who sincerely want to join the party? progressoid Apr 2016 #215
Tough shit. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2016 #216
Nice. progressoid Apr 2016 #220
Exactly. Thank you. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #9
Disenfranchisement = disenfranchisement Scootaloo Apr 2016 #31
Should voter registration be required of anyone at all? Orrex Apr 2016 #33
Well, being dropped from the rolls and having your registration changed without consultation Scootaloo Apr 2016 #40
Agreed, but that's not what we're talking about here Orrex Apr 2016 #46
Yeah, it's not as it anyone had been bringing this up until just today oh wait Scootaloo Apr 2016 #49
Who's calling it great? Please be specific. Orrex Apr 2016 #56
Well, if you support it, if you defend it, if you defend it you must feel it is great. Worth having. Scootaloo Apr 2016 #132
You're misrepresenting my position. Orrex Apr 2016 #136
Here in Maryland qwlauren35 Apr 2016 #148
I'm down with that Orrex Apr 2016 #156
Another post that uses the same talking points used by bigoted republicans here in georgia. hueymahl Apr 2016 #184
Feel better now? Orrex Apr 2016 #186
Not really. Voter suppression, regardless of the party, never feels good. hueymahl Apr 2016 #187
The registration deadline is indeed stupid, as has been stated repeatedly Orrex Apr 2016 #193
We are on the same page on that point hueymahl Apr 2016 #196
My initial thought was a 30-day cutoff Orrex Apr 2016 #198
Not understanding the law in time = self disenfranchisement CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #35
I look forward to your advocacy for poll taxes and literacy tests,CrowCityDem Scootaloo Apr 2016 #41
False analogy Orrex Apr 2016 #59
Yet another post that uses the same talking points used by bigoted republicans here in georgia hueymahl Apr 2016 #185
Doesn't equal inclusion either. mwooldri Apr 2016 #167
Any patterns in who is being flipped? jwirr Apr 2016 #5
No data. Igel Apr 2016 #75
Of course the Clintonites don't want it now.. but 2 years ago... basselope Apr 2016 #8
The time to correct this isn't a week before the primary Orrex Apr 2016 #12
We SHOULD have open primaries everywhere. basselope Apr 2016 #17
Then be prepared for the teabaggers messing with your party's primaries to their advantage beastie boy Apr 2016 #19
Yeah, and voter ID laws protect against in person voter fraud. basselope Apr 2016 #37
Voter ID???? Seriously, beastie boy Apr 2016 #55
It's called an equivalent. basselope Apr 2016 #94
No way is it an equivalent. beastie boy Apr 2016 #99
Yes, it is EXACTLY an equivalent. basselope Apr 2016 #101
no, it is not. beastie boy Apr 2016 #112
No. 0 primaries were affected. basselope Apr 2016 #113
If facts disagree with your opinion, damn the facts, right? beastie boy Apr 2016 #123
You cite OPINIONS and call them facts? basselope Apr 2016 #130
Add 25% independent voters to your calculation. beastie boy Apr 2016 #140
Again.. those pesky facts get in your way. basselope Apr 2016 #144
Well said. Only OPEN primaries equate to actual democracy. ReallyIAmAnOptimist Apr 2016 #208
very unlikely. restorefreedom Apr 2016 #62
Don't be so sure. beastie boy Apr 2016 #64
limbaughs metal heads will be few in number restorefreedom Apr 2016 #88
Over 13 million listeners weekly. Don't kid yourself beastie boy Apr 2016 #91
doesn't mean they are all willing restorefreedom Apr 2016 #116
Depends on the primaries beastie boy Apr 2016 #120
and it can work the other way, too restorefreedom Apr 2016 #122
Yes it can. Doesn't make it fair, though. beastie boy Apr 2016 #124
perhaps not. but what do you make of the computer glitch restorefreedom Apr 2016 #125
Record oversight is a difeent issue beastie boy Apr 2016 #134
much of this apparently was done online restorefreedom Apr 2016 #138
Those of us who are skeptical of anything done online have the option of creating PDF files for our beastie boy Apr 2016 #141
i hope they look into it restorefreedom Apr 2016 #147
Not if incumbants are running n/t MichMan Apr 2016 #212
Independents are free to vote as they wish in the general election Orrex Apr 2016 #20
Because we actually want GOOD candidates. basselope Apr 2016 #38
Then join the party Orrex Apr 2016 #45
Why do I have to waste the paper? basselope Apr 2016 #102
It's not suppression. That's a lie. Orrex Apr 2016 #106
It's voter suppression. Deal with it. basselope Apr 2016 #107
You're full of shenanigans. Deal with it. Orrex Apr 2016 #133
No. basselope Apr 2016 #142
No, I won't. You're even less than insignificant. Orrex Apr 2016 #154
Yeah.. it does. basselope Apr 2016 #157
The more you squawk, the less significant you become. Orrex Apr 2016 #159
No, just the opposite. basselope Apr 2016 #160
I love the screenplay dialogues in the movie "The Breakfast Club". King_Klonopin Apr 2016 #170
Puh-leeze. Orrex Apr 2016 #178
If you refuse to see that calling someone "less than insignificant" is complete assholery King_Klonopin Apr 2016 #221
So you'll be voting for Clinton, then? Orrex Apr 2016 #222
Bullshit. djg21 Apr 2016 #135
It's STILL voter surpression. basselope Apr 2016 #143
So, join the Party and vote for your choice. brooklynite Apr 2016 #100
I did, and i will be leaving the day after I vote. basselope Apr 2016 #103
As a former Ward Committeeman, I thought that Parties derived from the grassroots... brooklynite Apr 2016 #114
Whatever they WERE at one time has become a den of corruption. basselope Apr 2016 #118
I'll keep working to improve things from the inside... brooklynite Apr 2016 #119
Oh yeah.. your strategy has worked SO WELL. basselope Apr 2016 #129
The let Independents have a primary leftynyc Apr 2016 #30
For the same reason we have voter ID laws to protect against in person voter fraud. basselope Apr 2016 #42
You mean leftynyc Apr 2016 #44
Actually... it is a tough one. basselope Apr 2016 #47
And it got him nowhere leftynyc Apr 2016 #51
Yes, that is a very tiny bubble. basselope Apr 2016 #92
Can you give me the leftynyc Apr 2016 #171
Hardly a "wild guess". basselope Apr 2016 #214
Then find an Independent candidate GulfCoast66 Apr 2016 #161
If Sanders is not the nominee, I will be. basselope Apr 2016 #163
Do as you will. No attack from me GulfCoast66 Apr 2016 #165
I agree with you. This Oct thing is stupid. all american girl Apr 2016 #36
I agree, close em all nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #71
Any evidence of the Clintons not wanting it now except... it's too late now? beastie boy Apr 2016 #18
New York has it's traditions.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2016 #11
I really hope that this year prompt some severe action on voting rights by our next president Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #15
Be careful what you are wishing for (nightmare scenario: President Cruz) beastie boy Apr 2016 #21
haha, indeed Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #90
The federal government is limited on what they can do. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #26
It is a Democratic Party Primary... LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #23
IMO, this cannot be stressed BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #48
Agreed. Primaries should be closed. We are selecting a candidate, not electing anyone to stopbush Apr 2016 #54
Great find and one that should be BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #57
It must be Hillary's fault. Kingofalldems Apr 2016 #24
This has been New York's law for DECADES, so unless she time-traveled and got their legislators pnwmom Apr 2016 #53
Of course, she time-traveled back Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2016 #74
Some of us appreciate your effort to keep the conspiracy theorists frothing with anger LonePirate Apr 2016 #82
It was sarcasm. Kingofalldems Apr 2016 #78
Since many people here think she "rigged" it, your post might benefit from a smilie. pnwmom Apr 2016 #79
The state of New York,,,,,, SmittynMo Apr 2016 #25
It's viewed that way because Igel Apr 2016 #84
We need a nationwide voting policy and system. SoapBox Apr 2016 #27
Remember, a lot of laws are state by state. Igel Apr 2016 #85
There is no right to vote in a party's primary. NobodyHere Apr 2016 #203
You can blame this on RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #28
Yeah, maybe an update...into the 2000's might be nice. n/t all american girl Apr 2016 #39
Boy did they reform Alabama... Jeffersons Ghost Apr 2016 #52
In 68 years of living in and around New York City, I never heard anyone complain about.... George II Apr 2016 #60
Exactly. It's incumbent on every RESPONSIBLE citizen to make the effort stopbush Apr 2016 #66
You are right. They should make the rules tougher. Require literacy tests at least, or a poll tax hueymahl Apr 2016 #189
Because it's so tough to go online and check the voting rules stopbush Apr 2016 #200
To go online you need access to a computer and internet hueymahl Apr 2016 #201
Or you make a phone call to the BoE. Or you can call the offices stopbush Apr 2016 #202
As our friend Peggysue says, the hitchhikers are demanding the car keys again. Squinch Apr 2016 #86
How is the air up there on your high horse? hueymahl Apr 2016 #190
If New York did not do its best to disenfranchise its voters, it would be mhatrw Apr 2016 #68
This is correct. The drop off in participation from 2010 to 2014: Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #191
Forget the primaries. I find it disturbing that a BLUE state doesn't have octoberlib Apr 2016 #72
Well said! When this happens in a red state, it's proof that the republicans are looking to hughee99 Apr 2016 #81
I guess NY Democrats also want to suppress the vote of the poor and minorities. octoberlib Apr 2016 #83
nope, it is the republicans who control it. so fed up with the BS. bettyellen Apr 2016 #173
NY State House is in Democratic control by a large margin.... Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #195
This is an inconvenient truth hueymahl Apr 2016 #192
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #96
+63,558 dchill Apr 2016 #104
I don't have a problem with Democrats choosing Democratic candidates. I wish my candidate pampango Apr 2016 #105
NY should be ashamed of these antiquated laws. Progressives support OPEN primaries. Zen Democrat Apr 2016 #109
Same day registration, fine, but why should I support an Open primary? MadBadger Apr 2016 #155
So 27% of New York voters are independent, unaffiliated, Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #117
Because they didn't pay attention to the rules which were set lang before deadlines liberal N proud Apr 2016 #127
Pretty soon... malokvale77 Apr 2016 #128
Are you guys still crying about this? vdogg Apr 2016 #149
Forty Years of Freefall in New York Voter Turnout Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #197
Lol, proud of crappy turnout? vdogg Apr 2016 #199
K&R emsimon33 Apr 2016 #150
They made that choice by not choosing a party. RandySF Apr 2016 #151
This is very, very troubling Marrah_G Apr 2016 #158
"The state of New York has no same-day registration. The state of New York has no preregistration." Thor_MN Apr 2016 #166
Hillary...Where Hope Goes To Die billhicks76 Apr 2016 #172
DU...Where right wingers go to troll Democat Apr 2016 #177
Your Comment Is An Unfunny Joke billhicks76 Apr 2016 #217
It serves the purposes of those that profit from the status quo. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #174
Exactly elleng Apr 2016 #176
Bingo - that is the reason for virtually all restrictive voter registration laws hueymahl Apr 2016 #194
Republicans want to vote in Democratic elections and we should care? Democat Apr 2016 #175
Crossover mischief can happen MichMan Apr 2016 #179
That's a Straw Man. NY's election problems are not because it has a closed primary. My State has a Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #188
There's a long history zentrum Apr 2016 #180
ALL registered voters in New York are able to vote in the primaries, they just had to register... George II Apr 2016 #205
The lies just keep on pouring out Tarc Apr 2016 #206
That's fair enough. JoeyT Apr 2016 #210
It's you conscience, bro Tarc Apr 2016 #211
That only counts if you're only counting Americans. JoeyT Apr 2016 #218
Because they chose not to be a member of a party when they registered oberliner Apr 2016 #219
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