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Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
16. What needs to be done for unions to regain their effectiveness?
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 03:49 PM
Jun 2012

Oh man... At this point, it looks like we're back to that "start from scratch" point that our ancestors faced in the 19th century. The damage is so massive that I don't think we can count on any sort of "recovery."

Unfortunately, some of the damage is due to the unions themselves; the playbook hasn't really changed since the 1920's, but the workplace and corporate structure and goals most certainly have.

I really wish I had an answer; the easy answer is "more membership," but to get members, you not only have to have informed people.. .but the union also needs to be able to meet their needs. Nobody's going to want to pay dues for a union that doesn't have their back, after all.

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He's been president 4 years. Unions have been losing for 40 years Scootaloo Jun 2012 #1
Ask Stoller abelenkpe Jun 2012 #7
What needs to be done for unions to regain their effectiveness? Scootaloo Jun 2012 #16
meeting their needs is precisely the point. they haven't been. that's not a fault of the union HiPointDem Jun 2012 #44
I just googled him. pennylane100 Jun 2012 #13
He used the same time machine that allowed him to fake that Hawaiian birth announcement. Orsino Jun 2012 #68
Wow. TheWraith Jun 2012 #2
Yeah I know abelenkpe Jun 2012 #3
Look at his other pieces -- Obama was the sole cause of blame for Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #6
Well, he has a point. Liberal Veteran Jun 2012 #8
That's exactly the headline the GOP wants us to believe. Avalux Jun 2012 #4
Good question abelenkpe Jun 2012 #9
It must be a lot of fun for paid 'liberal' bloggers to write something like this, Avalux Jun 2012 #21
How can we find out? abelenkpe Jun 2012 #27
I think Stoller is probably just a disgruntled ideologist... Avalux Jun 2012 #28
Oh, god...He was one of the "Primary Obama" assclowns just last year Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #5
Yes yes.... abelenkpe Jun 2012 #15
blaming the president is too simplistic fascisthunter Jun 2012 #10
Gees! Whatta maroon! longship Jun 2012 #11
I totally understand abelenkpe Jun 2012 #18
One thing. ananda Jun 2012 #12
Bummer abelenkpe Jun 2012 #37
cal is busy defunding pensions. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #45
ugh that should be illegal! nt abelenkpe Jun 2012 #48
Stoller's an idiot. AverageJoe90 Jun 2012 #14
Yep :) nt abelenkpe Jun 2012 #49
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #52
Well, Rahm did give progressives the middle finger. HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #17
They should have struck. Counting on politicians is a fool's errand. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #19
Well, that's three minutes of my life I'll never get back GarroHorus Jun 2012 #20
Obama may have done many bad things, but accusing him coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #22
Actually Greenspan's Sekhmets Daughter Jun 2012 #29
I was trying to be facetious about Greenspan. Of course, his monetary coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #30
Thanks for the Sekhmets Daughter Jun 2012 #31
Beep-beep-beep, look out. Load of RW propaganda coming thru... FSogol Jun 2012 #23
I cannot tell you how often abelenkpe Jun 2012 #24
unions are beyond rescue. Sekhmets Daughter Jun 2012 #32
That's what I feared abelenkpe Jun 2012 #35
Unions have outlived their usefulness Sekhmets Daughter Jun 2012 #40
+1 HiPointDem Jun 2012 #46
General strike? Don't see it happening. n/t FSogol Jun 2012 #47
Nonsense WilliamPitt Jun 2012 #25
Outsourcing, coupled with Sekhmets Daughter Jun 2012 #26
That's quite a title Stoller has got going there Cali_Democrat Jun 2012 #33
It could have been worse. Liberal Veteran Jun 2012 #34
OMG abelenkpe Jun 2012 #36
Naked Capitalism is a Shit Hole of Stupidity banned from Kos Jun 2012 #38
I find the comments attached to their posts abelenkpe Jun 2012 #41
While you were banned from Daily Kos for a good reason brentspeak Jun 2012 #53
The sentiment and language in the title of this OP is absolutely WRONG and total CRAP ! RBInMaine Jun 2012 #39
decreased strike activity HiPointDem Jun 2012 #42
Reagan? nt abelenkpe Jun 2012 #50
what? HiPointDem Jun 2012 #51
Was wondering if the decrease in strikes had anything to do with abelenkpe Jun 2012 #65
gotcha, yes, the timing is simultaneous. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #66
Tough to strike in front of closed, empty factories. People honk at you, call you homeless. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2012 #54
There were fewer of those 40 years ago when this trend began. Gee, maybe there's a HiPointDem Jun 2012 #56
Have you ever read the book "Who Stole My Cheese"? jtuck004 Jun 2012 #57
yes, it's another one of those books feeding people corporate-think disguised as self-help. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #59
Hey, whatever it takes to get people to pull their head out of their ass. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2012 #60
i say pull your head out to people who believe winning comes from the politics of concession & HiPointDem Jun 2012 #61
Read my post in SMW today? I'm guessing not. jtuck004 Jun 2012 #62
i don't even know what smw is. if you want someone to read something, you should link it. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #63
You're right. I arched and shouldn't have. I apologize. SMW is Stock Market Watch on DU, jtuck004 Jun 2012 #64
Spare me... blue neen Jun 2012 #43
"Scott Walker is THE Republican, the politician who made his governorship a referendum on jtuck004 Jun 2012 #55
Replacing good Dems like Howard Dean.. ananda Jun 2012 #58
+1000 nt abelenkpe Jun 2012 #67
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