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cjs118

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53. I think Democrats have to address the *deception* issue
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 05:02 PM
Jun 2012

Democrats have made attempts at resolving the deficit, and even balanced the budget during the Clinton years, while Republicans have consistently supported policies that increase the deficit. The mark of a truly great propagandist is the ability to successfully attack their enemies for their own flaws and failures - projection. And the people who do that are simply not arguing in good faith. And my frustration with Democrats is that it is completely pointless to try to argue in good faith with people who are not doing the same.

So I think that when we try to simply respond to Republican attacks about the deficit without dealing with the deception behind them, we are wasting our breath. We should absolutely deal with the deficit in a responsible manner (which in part means when the economy is back on track), but the Republicans have no interest in dealing with the deficit in a responsible manner. In fact, Republican strategies have contributed greatly to the deficit.

In particular I am talking about the long standing strategy called "starve the beast" - cutting revenues from government to eventually force cuts to government programs. It is rather obvious that this will lead to large deficits - what would you expect when you cut someone's allowance but leave them with a huge credit limit? And that was what it was intended to do - create large deficits which could then be used to force cuts to programs like Medicare and Social Security. And it is an underhanded way to do this - if you want to cut spending, then you should cut spending. But the Republicans were too chicken-shit to go to the voters and touch the third rail. So instead they tried sabotage.

So, I think Democrats should deal with questions of the deficit by addressing the deception behind these Republican's attacks as well as their ulterior motives. Then we can discuss the real causes of the deficit - loss of revenue as well as increased health care and military spending. And then we can point out how Democrats have worked to address those issues in spite of Republican obstruction. Because in the end, Republicans have no credibility on the deficit.

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"Major wake-up call for the left?" Pab Sungenis Jun 2012 #1
Thank you. woo me with science Jun 2012 #2
Occupy! donheld Jun 2012 #65
I think it was a matter of not wanting to throw good money after bad. GarroHorus Jun 2012 #5
Yeah, that candidate . . . ArcticFox Jun 2012 #6
It ended up being one of the easiest fundamental mistakes you can make in an election. Pab Sungenis Jun 2012 #10
I've known this since 2006 when they refused to back Alaska's Diane Benson for US House. Blue_In_AK Jun 2012 #20
"The left" has no party - though the country supports its positions. polichick Jun 2012 #38
+1 HiPointDem Jun 2012 #55
Wake-up call. Gold Metal Flake Jun 2012 #3
Amen...EVERY election I've participated in since '94 has been a "wake-up" for someone Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #17
I think, maybe wrongfully jp11 Jun 2012 #27
I know what you mean. pa28 Jun 2012 #61
Since Walker's laws got passed, half of the labor in question left their unions. boppers Jun 2012 #62
I wish this overwrought nonsense would stop BeyondGeography Jun 2012 #4
1+ 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2012 #9
I hope it is overwrought nonsense, but although recall was not typical, there is reason for concern cjs118 Jun 2012 #23
Nice first post===welcome to DU panader0 Jun 2012 #40
I agree. laundry_queen Jun 2012 #45
Welcome to DU...what a start! Auntie Bush Jun 2012 #49
Thanks for the suggestion cjs118 Jun 2012 #52
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Thank You. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #32
baloney. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #56
I wonder ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2012 #7
It can be easily repeated anywhere Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #59
Democrats have to address the debt issue... kentuck Jun 2012 #8
The debt issue is a non-issue. Pab Sungenis Jun 2012 #11
Not spending cuts. kentuck Jun 2012 #16
All of them ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2012 #34
The election will be over when the taxcuts expire... kentuck Jun 2012 #36
And??? 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2012 #46
And... kentuck Jun 2012 #47
First ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2012 #51
Republicans scream about debt constantly when Democrats are in power, then get themselves bullwinkle428 Jun 2012 #12
If by address, ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2012 #13
Until we recognize how the Republicans are using the debt issue... kentuck Jun 2012 #15
And Democrats need to point to Europe to let the public see Republicans' solution to the debt sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #30
1+ 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2012 #37
Exactly, Dems need to have a clear message that exposes the Republican message, and they should not sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #50
I think Democrats have to address the *deception* issue cjs118 Jun 2012 #53
Here's a very serious solution to nearly balance the budget in just few years. Ready? pa28 Jun 2012 #64
"The Left" has been in Code Blue for sometime now deutsey Jun 2012 #14
Yep - we need a party. polichick Jun 2012 #42
Dont believe the polls, dont believe the media reports eowyn_of_rohan Jun 2012 #18
Proof? WilliamPitt Jun 2012 #19
the proof is in the machines as you should know, William Pitt eowyn_of_rohan Jun 2012 #21
So WilliamPitt Jun 2012 #22
in our election laws, written by the attorneys of voting machine companies eowyn_of_rohan Jun 2012 #24
So WilliamPitt Jun 2012 #25
useless , isnt it? eowyn_of_rohan Jun 2012 #28
Because WilliamPitt Jun 2012 #31
Get Bev Harris back on... greytdemocrat Jun 2012 #58
SHARED prosperity has to be the EXPLICIT message of the Party. Everything else fails. Romulox Jun 2012 #26
The wake-up call for Labor is this: The Democratic Party doesn't care about you. Bake Jun 2012 #29
Actually, the party doesn't give a shit about "the left" either. polichick Jun 2012 #39
BAM! You nailed it. Bake Jun 2012 #41
It can't decide if it wants to represent the people or... polichick Jun 2012 #44
The author is wrong. Citizens United had absolutely nothing to do with the Walker election. former9thward Jun 2012 #33
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CU was a challenge to McCain-Feingold which is a federal election law. former9thward Jun 2012 #67
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its actions say yes. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #57
so who really are these posters telling us what to think and say fascisthunter Jun 2012 #66
Some Here... Agree... WillyT Jun 2012 #54
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