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maggies farm

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21. Don't worry all of the donors are democratic.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:43 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:25 PM - Edit history (1)

For the last 15 years I have worked in one of the wealthiest zip codes in the nation. I provide computer services. In Montecito California there are a lot of small home offices. I will not name drop but you would clearly recognize some of the clients I have had over the years if I were to disclose.

I have a story that I am going to greatly truncate.

Several years back it came to my attention that some land was about to enter the market. It has a set of mineral hot springs. It produces about 50 million gallons a year on the front range of the San Ysidro Mountains and within 6 miles of the city of Santa Barbara.

Santa Barbara and the Channel Islands has a very long history with the Chumash people dating back over 10,000 years. The Spanish Mission era started at around 1769 when the path to the springs were first noted by Europeans. It is at the point of a young state of California that the present history of the springs took a sharp departure. These springs used for upwards of 10,000 years were shared with a white dying man that likely had heavy metal poisoning from quicksilver (mercury) mining over the mountain. (Mineral thermal water are known for chelating heavy metal toxins.) The man healed and promptly filed a land patent on the springs starting the history of coming to Santa Barbara to take advantage of the clime and it's mineral waters in the area.

Mineral waters throughout the US were respected and revered much like the Roman baths but it reached a peak in America and with the beginning of medical colleges and patented medicines those waters as therapy went into decline. There were a series of hotels from the 1860's all the way to the 1964 Coyote Fire.

In 1897 a set of water rights were wrangled at the springs for the downstream estates in Montecito. In that elaborate set of water rights 50% of the water went to a private water company and the other 50% remained with the land owner to be used for the various soaks and plunges.

When the land came for sale a local land trust organization spearheaded the effort to acquire the land and springs. I learned such an organization is not an environmental or conservation organization but a 'fixer' of properties that have various constraints and might not be fully developable. The outcome might provide some form of tax remedy and might include conservation easements or open spaces. In this case it was to be an outright conveyance to the USFS which has surrounding land.

What I discovered in the end was this. The idea was to convey the land and springs to the USFS, but forever remove water so that the public would not be able to soak in the springs! The USFS is notorious for poorly managing hot springs. To them it often is little more than an attractant nuisance, and with increasing budget constraints they cannot manage resources like springs.

My client at the time was the last house of one side of Hot Spring creek, told me when I knew what the endgame would be said, "don't worry all of the donors are democratics", the primary donor that put up 6 million dollars for the purchase lives across the creek and last house before entering into the chaparral forest leading up to the springs a mile away told me by direct conversation, "I considered buying the land for myself and bulldozing and capping the springs so no one would ever be able to soak in those waters again!" A classic case of NIMBY and wealth.

Today the USFS now owns the land, and it also now controls 50% of the water and that 50% is provided as permissive use at no cost to a private water company to feed estates that rival many municipal parks found throughout the U.S. We are talking about 25 million gallons of water a year given freely by our government - that is your water to the detriment of an effectively dewaterd creek with endangered steelhead downstream along with the needs of the flora and fauna found within the watershed itself. To soak in waters that were used for therapeutic and the lesser recreational purposes of relaxation for over 10,000 years are no longer available to the public on public lands and is an actual crime to enter those waters.

I must say I have seen the impacts and greed of wealth and particularly democratic wealth first hand. The fella that put up the 6 million dollars is a heavy democratic funder.

You can dig deeply through this facebook page Montecito Hot Springs and get a good idea what we are really faced with regarding the collusion of government with the lofty one percenters (democratic and republican). Here is an example of one of the estates receiving OUR water that is considered as non-potable irrigating water. These springs make this estate possible!

Good For Her noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #1
K&R 2naSalit Apr 2016 #2
K & R malaise Apr 2016 #3
"They want us dead" KansDem Apr 2016 #15
I don't think they actually want us dead Turbineguy Apr 2016 #19
Don't think you know them well enough malaise Apr 2016 #22
Look at World War I Turbineguy Apr 2016 #24
And they didn't give a fugg malaise Apr 2016 #25
Our water was sold to speculators (RWE), our water went from$19 mon to $70 mon alfredo Apr 2016 #27
If they could find a way to charge us for oxygen malaise Apr 2016 #30
what do you think pollution is about? hollysmom Apr 2016 #31
You have a point malaise Apr 2016 #33
sullying the air so they can sell us oxygen in tanks! cui bono Apr 2016 #52
You know it. I was just thinking the same thing. Evil, self-centered people. C Moon Apr 2016 #41
They don't own the sun, so solar must be opposed. alfredo Apr 2016 #44
You nailed it malaise Apr 2016 #56
That's an old one from the early 70's alfredo Apr 2016 #59
"Because their masters had had a falling out . . . " hatrack Apr 2016 #43
They want wealth. To have wealth you need more assets than the others. That's wealth. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #53
They don't care if we die malaise Apr 2016 #57
Good point. Also, lying about caring is also shitty. nm rhett o rick Apr 2016 #64
Precisely malaise Apr 2016 #65
I wish I could draw. I see a picture of the Oligarchy setting a big steel toothed trap rhett o rick Apr 2016 #66
Plus many ReasonableToo Apr 2016 #61
They were trying to privatize Flint water system. It started the lead crisis. Fucking 3rd Way... whereisjustice Apr 2016 #4
Global corporatists, you can't have it all. Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #5
Moore's opponent next election will be sponsored by Nestle NightWatcher Apr 2016 #6
K&R!!! G_j Apr 2016 #7
K & R. Market Money Worship Kills appalachiablue Apr 2016 #8
Excellent. Privatization is a bigger threat to America than al'Qaeda is. Initech Apr 2016 #9
The Commons CrispyQ Apr 2016 #10
no, they don't. and to my exerience, haven't for a long time magical thyme Apr 2016 #58
Another site reporting... JEB Apr 2016 #11
One company to beware of is.......... mrmpa Apr 2016 #12
Thanks for the link. nt JEB Apr 2016 #13
I started to boycott Nestles. I was amazed to see how many products they make. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #17
You have a right to buy their bottled water arikara Apr 2016 #42
That people don't see this as wrong just amazes me. CrispyQ Apr 2016 #63
Kicked and recommended! Stop abusing the people of the world. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #14
Chop. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #40
Bravo! to Rep. Moore chapdrum Apr 2016 #16
Excellent idea. nt JEB Apr 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Apr 2016 #20
Yep, excellent idea. n/t truedelphi Apr 2016 #48
Don't worry all of the donors are democratic. maggies farm Apr 2016 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author FreedomRain Apr 2016 #35
Yep, it's a two party system all right arikara Apr 2016 #45
"Don't worry, all the donors are Democrats." truedelphi Apr 2016 #49
MY congresswoman. awesome. pansypoo53219 Apr 2016 #23
K&R felix_numinous Apr 2016 #26
Water is a basic right for all the species of life on earth WHEN CRABS ROAR Apr 2016 #28
Some poster on DU zentrum Apr 2016 #29
Keep in mind that President Bill Clinton got his Bill through the Republican Congress easily. DhhD Apr 2016 #36
Well said. zentrum Apr 2016 #38
All excellent points Optimism Apr 2016 #51
1998 was the same year Bill swallowed the PNAC line about WMD cprise Apr 2016 #50
Wow—I didn't zentrum Apr 2016 #62
The world bank and the WTO are sold as helping the poor hollysmom Apr 2016 #32
Goal is to privatize and steal their natural resources. DhhD Apr 2016 #37
A serious issue. Glad someone has noticed. Sienna86 Apr 2016 #34
World Bank Mafia is a shameful institution. Hoarders of natural resources. Destroyers of Nature. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #39
I am beginning to get hopeless... Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #46
Talk about trickle down economy. JEB Apr 2016 #47
Enron and Dumya... IthinkThereforeIAM Apr 2016 #54
It's about time. I hope others will folllow suit. senz Apr 2016 #55
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #60
Interesting choice of words,"Glad that somebody is standing up to the Neoliberal rush to kill ViseGrip Apr 2016 #67
That came from OUR congress? Baitball Blogger Apr 2016 #68
After the Last AKBerniecrat Apr 2016 #69
K and R geardaddy Apr 2016 #70
You'll never guess who started this whole water privatization thing KamaAina Apr 2016 #71
Air filtration masks will be sold by the Koch brothers pbmus Apr 2016 #72
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