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54. George Washington would think party loyaltists don't understand politics

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:38 PM

Apr 2016

George Washington railed against political parties in his farewell address. He believed that it would lead to a situation where individual thought is crushed by party elitists who are determined to keep the rank and file in line.

He also viewed it as divisive and will ultimately grind political progress to a halt as the parties try to enact revenge and alliances with each other.

Honestly, can you say he's wrong?

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"I will vote for Sanders or Trump" [View all] edhopper Apr 2016 OP

Trump is to the left of her, why are you surprised? nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #1

Bullshit edhopper Apr 2016 #7

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really? edhopper Apr 2016 #45

She supports ban on late term abortions, with exceptions for health of the mother Mona Apr 2016 #49

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I do not believe she would appoint Pro Life justices LyndaG Apr 2016 #51

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Hillary fully supports Roe v. Wade, which is the same position that Bernie takes. pnwmom Apr 2016 #66

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IMO, Trump is all over the place. Sometimes to the left, often to the right HereSince1628 Apr 2016 #23

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There's that triangulation again. Ive she's the monimee, I'm out of here. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #56

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Yes, just like Cruz is to the left of Bernie. emulatorloo Apr 2016 #46

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I think what is happening is some people, perhaps many, are so fed up with the establishments RKP5637 Apr 2016 #6

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Most I have seen say this edhopper Apr 2016 #9

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The thing is, I don't see Trump as being anti-TPP... Wounded Bear Apr 2016 #17

Think the nation is ready for a third party? Jackilope Apr 2016 #4

I think it is, but hard to tell how it will develop, if ever, the current two are so entrenched. nt RKP5637 Apr 2016 #8

Thanks edhopper Apr 2016 #12

I agree! I've thought that for some time. All we have now is an endless domestic quarrel between RKP5637 Apr 2016 #19

I saw many, many people on social media who said they would vote for Hillary or Trump. demmiblue Apr 2016 #5

That is a ponder too edhopper Apr 2016 #10

I was being facetious. demmiblue Apr 2016 #25

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Ok, much ado about nothing. n/t demmiblue Apr 2016 #31

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same effect as trade Angel Martin Apr 2016 #34

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I understand all that, believe me... Wounded Bear Apr 2016 #21

I get that for Bernie edhopper Apr 2016 #22

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Anyone who votes for Trump agree with racism, sexism, white supremacy Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #18

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I care more about the infant mortality rate of the USofA. I ask how Democrats rhett o rick Apr 2016 #61

Any Democrat voting Republican has lost his or her way. merrily Apr 2016 #27

The Democratic Party, hijacked, has lost its way. Jackilope Apr 2016 #33

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What the Sanders or Trump voters are saying is LibDemAlways Apr 2016 #32

Imo that's exactly what it is. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #37

Some people do not understand politics rock Apr 2016 #40

George Washington would think party loyaltists don't understand politics davidn3600 Apr 2016 #54

No, I say he's right rock Apr 2016 #55

Have you asked any of them why they have that position? Scootaloo Apr 2016 #47

Would never vote for Trump, but kcjohn1 Apr 2016 #52

Anti-reason? Despite all the obvious about him - he is very Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2016 #58