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msanthrope

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65. You missed his palm off this week?

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 07:59 PM

Dec 2011

Note, Glenn did not direct readers to the blistering report on the racist newsletters in Salon--oh, no---

http://www.salon.com/2011/12/22/ron_paul_and_his_racist_newsletters/

Because that would have made him look like he had endorsed a white supremacist. No, instead, Glenn directed his readers to the apologia in another publication--wherein the blame for Ron Paul's racist newsletters is placed on Lew Rockwell, AND the racist newsletters aren't as bad as other things other candidates have done.....

"UPDATE: For a thoughtful, nuanced, very smart examination of the specific issue of Ron Paul and the newsletters, and more so, the general issue of Ron Paul’s candidacy, read this from The Atlantic‘s Conor Friedersdorf. It’s long, but well worth the time."

http://www.salon.com/2011/12/22/various_matters_15/singleton/

You gotta keep up with Glenn, if you are to defend him....I also highly recommend his take on the Bradley Manning gender identity disorder defense.

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Greenwald: Vote Obama – If You Want a Centrist Republican for US President [View all] Karmadillo Dec 2011 OP

And who is Greenwald endorsing? -nt CakeGrrl Dec 2011 #1

He doesn't vote, himself frazzled Dec 2011 #4

When he wrote his 1st book, he hadn't voted in a Presidential election. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #14

So a grown man who has voted in one election? frazzled Dec 2011 #28

I do poll watching for the Democratic Party in every election. It is dismaying but a fact of U.S. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #59

Correct, citizenship does not require us to vote. frazzled Dec 2011 #66

Actually, I know plenty of good citizens who don't vote. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #74

Why don't these activists vote? Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2011 #126

Most vote in local elections but believe "the fix is in" on the Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #136

That's too bad Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2011 #137

Don't forget ... Limpballs didn't vote for his Lord and Savior, Ronald Reagan ... because zbdent Dec 2011 #72

His vote won't and hasn't determined who is elected President. Nor will yours. Better Believe It Dec 2011 #95

My vote indeed determines who is elected, and so does yours frazzled Dec 2011 #96

So your single vote will determine who is elected President. Sounds like a really close election! Better Believe It Dec 2011 #105

Your theory is a self-fulfilling prophecy. frazzled Dec 2011 #113

Stay Home! Bobbie Jo Dec 2011 #112

Greenwald has some valid points mazzarro Dec 2011 #109

People don't need to vote to be able to speak out on things, sure Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2011 #138

Gary Johnson, aka Mitt Romney. Glenn's working overtime for that Koch money. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2011 #19

that is flat out false dsc Dec 2011 #80

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put up or shut up dsc Dec 2011 #89

See ya in Help & Meta, mmmkay? Tarheel_Dem Dec 2011 #91

I have to put you on ignore for engaging in personal attacks against DU'ers. Better Believe It Dec 2011 #97

I won't tell you what to do with your advice. Didn't you claim to have me on "Ignore"? Tarheel_Dem Dec 2011 #101

He said he's "keeping his eye on" former GOPer and now Libertarian Gary Johnson... jefferson_dem Dec 2011 #73

Yep, the fact of the matter is that Obama is somewhere to the right of Eisenhower, MadHound Dec 2011 #2

Obama is somewhere to the right of George H. W. Bush. provis99 Dec 2011 #64

Too bad President Obama is so quick to use war as a negotiating tool, unlike Eisenhower sad sally Dec 2011 #93

Point of information, Greenwald reported on Twitter that he did not write the headline. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #3

The headline? Inuca Dec 2011 #12

Of course he did. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #15

Ignore all of his progressive legislation and you too can live in fantasy-land with Glenn tridim Dec 2011 #5

Yes, those months of trying to renegotiate an extension of SOFA was EFerrari Dec 2011 #16

To be fair, they were trying to leave training forces (with immunity)... joshcryer Dec 2011 #60

It's amazing. This is information that was well reported and yet Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #61

they have to lie about Obama to make him look extreme Enrique Dec 2011 #6

Greenwald's defense of Ron Paul in the newsletters situation should be the clue Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #7

+1 Tarheel_Dem Dec 2011 #22

He defended Paul? OMG. DevonRex Dec 2011 #23

Oh yeah...here's a quote msanthrope Dec 2011 #30

I've read and reread the article and I can find no defense of the newsletters anywhere. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #36

You missed his palm off this week? msanthrope Dec 2011 #65

Maybe because Conor's piece was posted the day before and Alex's piece was posted Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #81

"Of course I hate seeing them blame his noble acts on a mental illness..." Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #92

I have read the defense of the Bradley Manning defense strategy dsc Dec 2011 #82

Ron Paul as "anti-crony-capitalism"! joshcryer Dec 2011 #38

It's a good thing people generally ignore uber partsans who prop up certain politicians fascisthunter Dec 2011 #33

You just won the thread. Sorry it's such a crappy little prize. Number23 Dec 2011 #100

Well said...nt SidDithers Dec 2011 #104

Fuck Greenwald - he is not worth rebutting. banned from Kos Dec 2011 #8

I Concur! mckara Dec 2011 #11

"Fuck him" "fuck her" "fuck this" fuck that".. girl gone mad Dec 2011 #85

he has. Whisp Dec 2011 #107

Some one needs to send Glenn a life time supply of ... JoePhilly Dec 2011 #9

Did I say ProSense Dec 2011 #10

Awesome. Lead the lemmings over the cliff. AtomicKitten Dec 2011 #13

He can't live in the U.S. because the U.S. bars his partner from U.S. residency. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #18

Greenwald ProSense Dec 2011 #26

"I affirm my distaste for photographic leader-glorification, but I'll rescind my invocation of Leni Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #41

wrong, wrong, and wrong Lord Helmet Dec 2011 #31

Hamsher was a big Hillary shill during the primaries. joshcryer Dec 2011 #44

Show me. I once spent 2-3 hours looking for evidence that she supported Hillary and I could find Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #48

Sure: joshcryer Dec 2011 #51

And when I was doing my research, I found as many "pro-Obama/anti-Hillary" posts. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #67

Read my post, I addressed the telecom and Lieberman posts. They're the only two. joshcryer Dec 2011 #70

So, your a PUMA, eh? Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #75

What makes you think that? joshcryer Dec 2011 #77

Uh, he does not reside in the US due to bigoted immigration laws. No matter what you think of Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #46

Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #84

Within that framework, I do want a Centrist Republican for US President cthulu2016 Dec 2011 #17

Horror of all horrors! You sound....(gasp)..PRAGMATIC!!!... Kahuna Dec 2011 #25

I should post this on some centrist GOP/Indepedent forums maximusveritas Dec 2011 #20

Umkay, Glenn. Whatever you say, Centrist Republican it is... NYC_SKP Dec 2011 #21

LOL! I love this response! Kahuna Dec 2011 #29

PAGING GLENN: And who is our alternative? BeHereNow Dec 2011 #24

The article is about the crazy radical Republican field. It is not about Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #43

Looks like you and I are the only ones who read the post. russspeakeasy Dec 2011 #115

There's been a string of cherrypicking Greenwald articles recently. People taking random paragraphs Puregonzo1188 Dec 2011 #125

add the fact that there is some criticism of Mr. O. and a lot of people russspeakeasy Dec 2011 #127

yeah... Vote for someone else and get... Ohio Joe Dec 2011 #27

Not once in the entire article does Greenwald advocate for a far right wing fundy Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #47

He does not have to Ohio Joe Dec 2011 #50

How, in anyone's reality, could Greenwald eliminate Obama? Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #68

I never said he could Ohio Joe Dec 2011 #78

Greenwald only has to work on eliminating voters here and there....... FrenchieCat Dec 2011 #79

Vote for Obama. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2011 #121

Your alternative? Ohio Joe Dec 2011 #124

I know your point. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2011 #128

He is a Moderate Republican fascisthunter Dec 2011 #32

Actually, ProSense Dec 2011 #34

And who is advocating voting for a racist lunatic? Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #45

Fake Progressives for Racists 2012! n/t ProSense Dec 2011 #56

lol... pathetic fascisthunter Dec 2011 #116

His ardent supporters are the Democratic Party. Sorry you don't stand with us. MjolnirTime Dec 2011 #37

yeah I know... unfortunately they are dems fascisthunter Dec 2011 #39

So, you're calling out at lease half of DU posters as republicans???? Kahuna Dec 2011 #40

And when Kuch announces his support for Obama will you call him a Repub? great white snark Dec 2011 #49

What gives you the right to label others, some who have been on this board as long or longer FrenchieCat Dec 2011 #76

They're very forgiving "progressives", UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2011 #122

Greenwald is a toad. MjolnirTime Dec 2011 #35

Thanks for your detailed, reasoned analysis _ed_ Dec 2011 #114

Oh no Greenwald... you can't be honest here fascisthunter Dec 2011 #42

and don't if you want one of the following fucking idiots spanone Dec 2011 #52

So, we're back to voting for the "less evil" ? russspeakeasy Dec 2011 #129

Greenwald: read me if you like advice from a PUMA tool pathetic man. great white snark Dec 2011 #53

I see lots of people calling Glen Greenwald names, and getting on him for his Libertarian slant DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2011 #54

Yup . Someone will send Glenn "the list". That ought to shut him up. russspeakeasy Dec 2011 #131

... elleng Dec 2011 #55

Greenwald. LOL... SidDithers Dec 2011 #57

Nailed It Again bvar22 Dec 2011 #58

Nailling us to a cross.....is what Greenwald is recommending for the American people..... FrenchieCat Dec 2011 #62

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Dead to rights. n/t girl gone mad Dec 2011 #86

Portrait rings more hard-core than centrist to these progressive indepat Dec 2011 #69

Glenn Greenwald... jefferson_dem Dec 2011 #71

Greenwald - a flaming bag of douche jpak Dec 2011 #83

Those who wanted a progressive populist-- eridani Dec 2011 #87

More USA PATRIOT Act. Less Justice. Octafish Dec 2011 #90

Vote Not Obama if you want Right Wing Nutball for President. BootinUp Dec 2011 #94

Perhaps Greenwald prefers and will vote for a Centrist Republican President. Better Believe It Dec 2011 #98

Eisenhower isn't running this time. lol. BootinUp Dec 2011 #99

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Better than the right wing nutjobs the actual (R)'s are running slay Dec 2011 #103

He is right, of course. hifiguy Dec 2011 #106

^ This sums up my opinion completely, as well. nt Poll_Blind Dec 2011 #111

And if you want to vote for a solidly progressive Democrat, vote for... randome Dec 2011 #108

That platform has been removed. russspeakeasy Dec 2011 #132

You mean it's no longer the Democratic Party's platform. randome Dec 2011 #133

Exactly. russspeakeasy Dec 2011 #134

K & R! Wind Dancer Dec 2011 #110

that's why people here are attacking him personally instead fascisthunter Dec 2011 #117

I'd say that's pretty accurate. Edweird Dec 2011 #118

This paragraph is absolutely fuckin' true. blindpig Dec 2011 #119

I vote for progressives. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2011 #120

Sad but true libodem Dec 2011 #123

Yup, and he doesn't even mention the environmental disaster Obama has been... joeybee12 Dec 2011 #130

K&R (nt) T S Justly Dec 2011 #135