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In reply to the discussion: Show of hands, fellow Democrats. How many of you would choose to let your job go overseas? [View all]Zalatix
(8,994 posts)Democrats are still turning against you. You cite polls, I cite what happens every time you and I discuss this issue. You keep bringing up polls to show how popular offshoring is with Democrats, but when it comes time to bat you always come up on the short end of the stick. Why is that? Where are these Democrats who agree with you? I contend that they only exist in your Pew polls. Show 'em. Bring 'em on. Whatever Democrats you bring whom you think support offshoring, I can turn them against you simply by asking the question in the OP.
And your base is the Koch Brothers and the US Chamber of Commerce whether you like it or not.
Another problem here is that you keep evading the facts.
For instance, I'm sure that you know that since we came up with GATT and NAFTA, Americans have been losing their jobs in droves. Wages have stagnated and job growth has LAGGED behind population growth. The fact is, jobs have been leaving the country more than jobs have come here from elsewhere. You want to defend this and you want to ensure it keeps happening.
As for your arguments about who trades the most, no country in the world runs the kind of trade deficits that the United States does. The problem, and you know this, is not trade. It is our trade deficits. You, sir, will most certainly not address this when (or if) you respond. What is killing America is trade deficits. Another fact you will probably evade discussion of, is the fact that tariffs, currency manipulation, and other barriers to trade, are not necessarily detrimental to a country. Look at China, their middle class has EXPLODED because of their trade barriers. Germany has quite a few protectionist measures in place as well. You know this.
Mexico, Brazil, Argentina and other countries erect trade barriers by pegging their currencies to ours. They are also quite successful. I bet you weren't counting on me knowing that when you posted your half-truths about liberal economies.
Once again, you have nothing to offer American workers. We are running huge trade deficits and this is costing Americans jobs, plus it's devaluing our dollar and raising our debt. You have no counter to this, because it is the truth.
America is running a massive non-oil trade deficit.
Trade deficits kill jobs.
Trade deficits devalue the currency.
Trade deficits put a nation in serious debt.
What have you to say to those basic facts?
PS: Europe is in a HELL of a lot of financial trouble. Ever wonder why? It's largely because of offshoring.