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UCmeNdc

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Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:27 PM Apr 2016

Ronald Reagan really was a traitor and conspired with Iran to keep the Hostages [View all]

until after the 1980 presidential elections.

Then, after a glass of wine, Clarridge dropped a bombshell, or at least that's what he wanted me to believe. The so-called October Surprise conspiracy—in which the incoming Reagan administration’s advance team allegedly plotted to keep American hostages in Iran until after President Jimmy Carter left office—was real, he hinted. He mentioned the 2013 novel October 1980 by George Cave, himself a veteran spook and, according to Clarridge, the agency’s top Iran expert, in which a fictional Iranian expatriate businessman enriches himself by aiding a covert American plan to free hostages in Tehran.

“It's a novel, but it's really not a novel,” Clarridge explained. The exact date of the hostage release, Clarridge claimed, was set by infamous Iran-Contra middleman Manucher Ghorbanifar, who Clarridge claims had “big bets in Las Vegas—big, big—millions” tied to the timing of the deal. “What George tells you is the real story,” he said, whispering. “The whole novel is really true.” (I wasn’t able to reach Ghorbanifar for comment. But in a recent interview, Cave told me that he didn’t believe Reagan officials plotted to delay the hostage release, but the part about the Iranian businessman was likely true. “Ghorbanifar liked to spend time in Las Vegas,” Cave says. “Knowing what he knew, I can’t believe he didn’t have some bets.”)

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/the-october-surprise-was-real-spymaster-hints/
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Thank you! Now this is what I thought a liberal message board would be about. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #1
Where you been? Octafish Apr 2016 #18
Fascinating stuff. Timeline, I like that. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #39
Saudi Arabia is the Capitol of the BFEE Octafish Apr 2016 #40
Whatever it takes kacekwl Apr 2016 #44
Yes Angry Dragon Apr 2016 #38
yes, i believe he was. MariaThinks Apr 2016 #2
totally agree Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #3
Pretty much spot on Cosmocat Apr 2016 #13
we don't need enemies we have ourselves Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #16
Not Only Ronnie colsohlibgal Apr 2016 #4
Yup. That where they learned it from. roamer65 Apr 2016 #31
yes he was Skittles Apr 2016 #5
Might not be so... TomVilmer Apr 2016 #6
I will go with Gary Sick KT2000 Apr 2016 #7
I'll go with Robert Parry gabeana Apr 2016 #10
exactly... I was going to post that if no one else didn't Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #17
Nope. chervilant Apr 2016 #23
"Iranians feared having to start negotiations over with a new administration" makes no sense. ieoeja Apr 2016 #37
The timing - plus the release of weapons to Iran just days later- should have been suspicious enough forest444 Apr 2016 #8
Oh hell yes. I knew it back then. trof Apr 2016 #9
That's a fact! dpatbrown Apr 2016 #11
Now, to be fair, he had his reasons. byronius Apr 2016 #12
YEP Cosmocat Apr 2016 #14
Well done! zentrum Apr 2016 #20
He was a traitor. blondie58 Apr 2016 #43
Don't forget the Nixon betrayal Johnson hid from the public. byronius Apr 2016 #45
Everytime I hear someone in the media extolling the sacred deeds of St Ronnie procon Apr 2016 #15
This was a well known zentrum Apr 2016 #19
NY Times April 15, 1991 - New Reports Say 1980 Reagan Campaign Tried to Delay Hostage Release vkkv Apr 2016 #21
He isn't the only one. But it's nice to draw attention to it. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #22
I was there maindawg Apr 2016 #24
Hey the repugnuts needed a hero after The tricky one stepped down in shame so Saint Ronnie was born. pressbox69 Apr 2016 #25
The CIA has done this in other countries for years to sway elections. jalan48 Apr 2016 #26
Can I be the first to say... bayareaboy Apr 2016 #27
Ronald Reagan really was a traitor and conspired with Iran to keep the Hostages AlbertCat Apr 2016 #28
From the movie "Captain America" 7Inches Apr 2016 #29
But WE all knew this right? Timing:Hostages released DURING inauguration. joanbarnes Apr 2016 #30
HW Bush met w/the Iranians in Paris in Oct. of 1980 to cut the deal Botany Apr 2016 #32
Yes, William Casey too dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #33
The secret service agents who were covering HW Bush in the fall of 1980 all had Botany Apr 2016 #34
Yes I recall some of that dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #35
Let's be clear about this: Reagan was THE tool of the bush regime, he did everything they underahedgerow Apr 2016 #36
Way beyond Bush. Not that he wasn't a part of the plans, but others were part of it, FighttheFuture Apr 2016 #42
It was critical the Reagan be installed so he could start the RW Think Tanks plans developed FighttheFuture Apr 2016 #41
Robert Parry has an excellent resource... Octafish Apr 2016 #46
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