I think it was the "we tortured some folks" moment

[Hortensis]

81. Everything a president does has an opportunity

cost -- i.e., the cost of what he could have used his power to accomplish instead. Plus, everything a president does has a bundle of consequences, not all of them good. And since knowledge IS power, they can't explain all or often even any of their true reasons to us. The best we can do is vote to put good people in office -- and then let them know we're always watching.

IMO, only a truly profound arrogance combined with profound ignorance could produce people who feel entitled to knee-jerk condemn the actions of any president just because they want to complain. Arrogance and a profound failure of principle.

* Democrats, including virtually all liberals, are the largest voting block by far that opposes torture.

* A majority of Republican and independent conservatives are the block that favors torture.

All of those who try to weaken Democrats politically by denying they are the nation's bulwark against torture and who join Republicans in condemning them and spreading lies about them are supporting and enabling torturers and torture. That is what I mean by failure of principle.