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113. Democrats hands are not clean in this.

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Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:11 AM

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I think it was the "we tortured some folks" moment [View all] My Good Babushka Apr 2016 OP

Agreed Completely cantbeserious Apr 2016 #1

Nonsense. THE REPUBLICANS "tortured some people," Hortensis Apr 2016 #52

Great rant! Thank you. Posts like this are why I still bother participating here. yardwork Apr 2016 #56

Point taken, and for every thing the Dems do that is bad, the Repubs are far far worse Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #68

Everything a president does has an opportunity Hortensis Apr 2016 #81

I agree 100% with you on torture & I imagine on many issues. The GOP is simply evil in most matters Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #88

Fast Walker, I agree with YOU 100%, and yes, Hortensis Apr 2016 #97

cool, fair enough! Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #103

So where are the indictments on torture charges that the Democrats JDPriestly Apr 2016 #90

What happened here was opportunity cost. Hortensis Apr 2016 #117

Democrats are Complicit Martin Eden Apr 2016 #73

Bullshit. RiverNoord Apr 2016 #92

Absolutely and 100% in complete agreement with this opinion - n/t mazzarro Apr 2016 #95

I agree and one of the problems is.... Hotler Apr 2016 #111

And I agree with you entirely. RiverNoord Apr 2016 #119

An American commited murder, you are a murderer Democat Apr 2016 #115

If that's how you interpreted the essence of what I wrote, RiverNoord Apr 2016 #120

^^^This!^^^ Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #108

Democrats hands are not clean in this. progressoid Apr 2016 #113

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Apr 2016 #2

Retroactive immunity was a turning point in American history. L. Coyote Apr 2016 #11

Yes merrifield Apr 2016 #13

Good read about this 2cannan Apr 2016 #27

I loved Obama, he is still in my avatar with Bernie. thereismore Apr 2016 #114

endless drone strikes, the Afghanistan and Libya debacles, the forced deportation of immigrants Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #71

I guess I just need to touch base My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Apr 2016 #82

Ab-so-fucking-lutely correct. nt JEB Apr 2016 #4

He, by his actions and inactions re. torture, condoned it and normalized it. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #5

So, when he said we don't condone torture, he was actually saying, "We condone torture." Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #30

When Obama failed to prosecute what were clearly crimes he implicitly condoned them Fumesucker Apr 2016 #102

So few words MuseRider Apr 2016 #6

Very simple answer to your question of 'Why?' Stonepounder Apr 2016 #7

I don't know who you are, Stonepounder... ReRe Apr 2016 #16

I wasn't really asking but that was a great MuseRider Apr 2016 #47

+1 840high Apr 2016 #72

He had an opportunity matt819 Apr 2016 #8

Also, the opportunity to get rid of Bush's corrupt US attorneys, what the hell went wrong there? L. Coyote Apr 2016 #12

Obama did what every other president has done. former9thward Apr 2016 #21

No, he left Holding in NC for years unc70 Apr 2016 #79

If he was held over it was Obama's decision. former9thward Apr 2016 #86

Obama left him in until Holding said he was done unc70 Apr 2016 #87

Imagine he had gone forward with prosecutions.. Hulk Apr 2016 #39

I don't believe that this country is too fragile for justice My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #46

who know what the person that covers for criminal behavior is guilty of? questionseverything Apr 2016 #59

OK, sure, but what are you going to DO about it? FairWinds Apr 2016 #9

Thank you. My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #41

America said, in effect, 'Yeah, we tortured people. So, what?', heaping insult and disdain to injury Solly Mack Apr 2016 #10

Unfortunately there are people on this board who choie Apr 2016 #33

"we tortured some folks" sammythecat Apr 2016 #14

psychopathically blas� attitude (sorry. more than one word, I tried) Hiraeth Apr 2016 #22

nail meet hammer NJCher Apr 2016 #34

I fully agree about the use of "folks". PWPippin Apr 2016 #109

And I hope people realize that if it comes to a choice between military spending and A Simple Game Apr 2016 #15

Truth! SammyWinstonJack Apr 2016 #54

It has accomplished making the MIC ever larger and dependant on Phlem Apr 2016 #17

That was when it became blindingly obvious... truebrit71 Apr 2016 #18

Agree absolutely. bjo59 Apr 2016 #19

We don't really have two political parties in America, NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #20

I like to call one *dog* and the other *pony*. maybe that is just me. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #23

Or NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #24

and they are so gracious about taking turns! Hiraeth Apr 2016 #25

Perfect. bigwillq Apr 2016 #26

! Hiraeth Apr 2016 #29

Yeah. It all started there. We'd never been in a war before. Thanks, Obama. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #28

Jeesus christ you will excuse anything choie Apr 2016 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #48

That's not what was said or even implied Bradical79 Apr 2016 #36

re-read the second paragraph of the OP. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #49

I did. Read it a third time too. My response is 100% accurate. Bradical79 Apr 2016 #58

I'm talking about the moment for me My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #43

Ok, thanks for the clarification. But, the second paragraph of the OP... Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #50

I have no doubt that Hillary as prez will keep the wars going to make her corporate base happy. Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #31

Exaggerate much? Or perhaps you love hyperbole. Indydem Apr 2016 #32

Between 1.3 and 4 million My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #40

Well, there's a lot wrong there. Indydem Apr 2016 #44

I believe the doctors My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #55

Believe whoever you want. Indydem Apr 2016 #60

You're welcome to post the studies My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #62

IBC is still the most accurate Indydem Apr 2016 #66

Still waiting for your total count of non-violent deaths Orrex Apr 2016 #75

Give us a precise figure. How many dead civilians is too many, by your count? Orrex Apr 2016 #61

Baby, you're so sweet My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #64

*smooch* Orrex Apr 2016 #74

There are a number of sources. Indydem Apr 2016 #65

That only cites death from violence My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #67

That was chilling felix_numinous Apr 2016 #37

Except they are not zentrum Apr 2016 #38

Completely agree. "We tortured some folks" Really... SammyWinstonJack Apr 2016 #42

How very well you summed it up Mira Apr 2016 #45

That's a good way to describe the feeling. nt. My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #69

I never really thought our safety was really a concern Victor_c3 Apr 2016 #51

Reminded me of the "Otter defense" from Animal House tularetom Apr 2016 #53

"We tortured some folks" seems a bit casual democrank Apr 2016 #57

Torture works . . . for producing false confessions. tclambert Apr 2016 #63

Rec x1,000.... such an important point Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #70

The War on Terror is a strategic plan FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #76

This primary season has forced me to examine my values Kalidurga Apr 2016 #77

Obama answered your question Thespian2 Apr 2016 #94

Oh well there you go CYA rules Kalidurga Apr 2016 #101

Especially among the Thespian2 Apr 2016 #116

Republican Admin. crimes we ALL have to 'pay for' and acknowledge forever. Sunlei Apr 2016 #78

War is profitable for some folks malaise Apr 2016 #80

"Tangled rat-king of war criminals" would be a great name for a punk rock band. yellowcanine Apr 2016 #83

The "War on Terror" has improved things by 1,400% 90-percent Apr 2016 #84

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Apr 2016 #85

Now, now, don't be sanctimonious. Scuba Apr 2016 #89

"Impeachment (and obviously indictment of the war criminals) is off the table" Pelosi. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #91

The REAL REASON for the War On Terror ... nikto Apr 2016 #93

I think it was the fake folksiness of "some folks" that bothered me Bucky Apr 2016 #96

The MIC needs perpetual warfare to keep the economy afloat. Rex Apr 2016 #98

Another one of the things the DU right wingers are OK with as long as Obama and Clinton do it Doctor_J Apr 2016 #99

The so-called war on terror... 3catwoman3 Apr 2016 #100

Remember Bll Hicks? MasonDreams Apr 2016 #104

no one has been held accountable Skittles Apr 2016 #105

K&R emsimon33 Apr 2016 #106

After he granted the torturers blanket immunity... pat_k Apr 2016 #107

It's achieved one thing. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #110

Nothing will ever get better. Ever. alarimer Apr 2016 #112

How did the President "decline" to prosecute them? treestar Apr 2016 #118

My thoughts as well. n/t GummyBearz Apr 2016 #121

On second thought... Iggo Apr 2016 #122