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Matariki

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29. And how do you suggest getting their attention?

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 07:36 PM

Jun 2012

When every bit of defeat and bad news seems to be nothing more than a opportunity to ask for money. Because everything is an 'emergency', every election is 'the most important ever', and very little changes.

If it seemed like they were actually *doing* something about these election related problems, problems that have been getting worse over the years not better, then I would concede that this anger is 'screeching' and 'hissyfitting'.

I want to hear real plans & see real action FROM CONGRESS for campaign finance reform, for dealing with Citizens United, dealing with the problems of un-transparent vote counting, bullshit grind-to-a-halt legislation when the Dems have the majority. Until that time it increasingly seems like a sucker's game.

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HEY DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP! I know you troll this place. Listen up. [View all] Matariki Jun 2012 OP

"You had a House AND Senate majority for two years." Well, not really.... Scuba Jun 2012 #1

Yeah, and they could have done something about that stupid "super-majority" thing too. Matariki Jun 2012 #4

The Obama administration couldn't force the Senate to enact new rules. pnwmom Jun 2012 #28

And I wasn't talking about the Obama administration. Matariki Jun 2012 #40

Harry thought the Repubs would cower and back off when he made the filibuster threat rustydog Jun 2012 #45

What about using cloture texshelters Jun 2012 #73

It's never been about the "Dem's growing a spine." they roll over b/c that is what they are paid Dustlawyer Jun 2012 #120

The Democratic Senate leadership quakerboy Jun 2012 #42

The Senate Dems could have changed their own rules. OrwellwasRight Jun 2012 #72

Thanks, you are correct texshelters Jun 2012 #75

amen. bbgrunt Jun 2012 #93

THIS! Agony Jun 2012 #99

Excellent. October Jun 2012 #121

+ a bajillion. SomeGuyInEagan Jun 2012 #140

correct n/t librechik Jun 2012 #152

You mean Obama had ZERO influence over Harry Reid? Canuckistanian Jun 2012 #79

The could have framed the debates and narratives better. nt shcrane71 Jun 2012 #6

We have to appeal to emotions like they do. Logic is lost on the low-info voters AllyCat Jun 2012 #106

Yet way north WI went blue... shcrane71 Jun 2012 #115

That never bothered the Republicans... bvar22 Jun 2012 #10

What you said. ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2012 #15

Agreed, more spine would be good.... Magoo48 Jun 2012 #56

I know lackluster ineffectiveness.. sendero Jun 2012 #57

I have said the same thing for some time.. The Dems and the Republicans crunch60 Jun 2012 #64

the republacrats nineteen50 Jun 2012 #68

It wasn't the filibuster that stopped progress obxhead Jun 2012 #11

Bingo! (nt) Puzzler Jun 2012 #16

That was how the rules were written. And the Senate, not Obama, wrote the rules. n/t pnwmom Jun 2012 #30

Specifically, what rule was written this way? And can you support this, if at all, with a link? AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #63

And once again, the OP is NOT addressing Obama. AllyCat Jun 2012 #108

The filibuster doesn't work that way. It's not like in the movie. BlueCaliDem Jun 2012 #96

In other words, you are in favor of Congress wasting time. randome Jun 2012 #110

The filibuster never worked that way jeff47 Jun 2012 #118

Exactly! Sekhmets Daughter Jun 2012 #145

Plus the Dem with a brain problem couldn't attend and then there was Liebermann and his threats to freshwest Jun 2012 #14

Oh NO!!! bvar22 Jun 2012 #21

I lived in that era and this ain't the same. freshwest Jun 2012 #24

And more ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2012 #35

Thanks. MLK is gone, too. Sadly, that era was before decades of GOP rule. freshwest Jun 2012 #39

a whole different era? bvar22 Jun 2012 #49

I remember DNC Chicago 68. Just after the murder of our front runner Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #107

Who said anything about NICER? sendero Jun 2012 #112

What makes you think I didn't know that you said? Is tearing down Democrats now going to help bring freshwest Jun 2012 #131

LBJ would have kicked Lieberman's balls through the hifiguy Jun 2012 #25

See my comment #35 ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2012 #36

But that would be covered. 'You leak any embarrassing video, and guess what we've got ready for sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #133

I disagree that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2012 #136

That's what I'm talkin' 'bout!!! deaniac21 Jun 2012 #37

Yes, from all I've read about him, Lieberman would have been afraid to come back to DC after sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #54

+1 davidwparker Jun 2012 #34

HELL MUTHAFUCKIN YEAH! datasuspect Jun 2012 #101

"Democrats decided the 111th Congress wasn't good or fast enough, so they sat at home" OrwellwasRight Jun 2012 #74

Interesting argument. The supremes steal in 2000, when progressive voted in droves, were even freshwest Jun 2012 #80

Wow. OrwellwasRight Jun 2012 #135

Oh, and PS, OrwellwasRight Jun 2012 #137

Not to mention the "Democratic" *cough* blue dogs... polichick Jun 2012 #22

Supermajority is the excuse. As you can see, at the beginning of the next session, davidwparker Jun 2012 #32

True. And because the Dem Party is more tolerant of others' opinions, it takes a super Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #33

This argument makes no sense. What you are saying is that Republicans in the sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #38

No Sabrina, because when you try to explain bullshit, you have nothing to point at but pieces of Dragonfli Jun 2012 #51

I have to agree, I have yet to have anyone explain this to me in a logical manner, minus the talking sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #62

The funny part is that according to such "logic" we should seek the power of the minority instead. Dragonfli Jun 2012 #66

Yes of course, only republicans can achieve anything with a majority. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #78

Democrats chose to abide by the existing rules. That was a choice -- a wrong choice. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #81

never stopped the Republicans 0rganism Jun 2012 #89

Al Franken was help up by the Minnesota Republicans and their stone walling. RC Jun 2012 #103

Re-read my post; I should have said "Minnesota Republicans" for clarity. Thanks. Scuba Jun 2012 #105

The Dems could have changed this bonniebgood Jun 2012 #116

Can't disagree. Welcome to DU bonniebgood. Scuba Jun 2012 #119

You're right. They had it for four years and did nothing that wasn't what the republicans wanted. nt Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #130

Bush never had a supermajority either, which is why the Senate never gave him what he wanted. racaulk Jun 2012 #148

Well said and I agree with you!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2012 #2

Shouldn't that be lurk, not troll? hedgehog Jun 2012 #3

The way they treat their base sometimes, I'm not so sure. Matariki Jun 2012 #5

I told dccc@dccc.org Woody Woodpecker Jun 2012 #7

Your a hard man Pecker! obliviously Jun 2012 #12

lol...nice. nt U4ikLefty Jun 2012 #91

That's what you told 'em? I hope folks remember your post when the screeching begins about $$$$. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #19

And how do you suggest getting their attention? Matariki Jun 2012 #29

Take to the streets if you're unhappy. Occupy, for a time, seemed it was a possible answer. But... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #43

Ron Paul has taken over occupy? Dragonfli Jun 2012 #84

I saw the signs, and drew my own conclusions. Much like the tinfoil theories about the.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #85

You will have to excuse my lack of political hack training, but is that hack speak for "you pulled Dragonfli Jun 2012 #87

I didn't "discredit the occupiers". They didn't need my help. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #88

If one supports the 1% that would be the inevitable reaction, we are sorry for the inconvenience Dragonfli Jun 2012 #90

Have at it. See ya! By the way, I have no special affinity for the 1%, but I don't much care for.. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #92

Typical smear of Occupy U4ikLefty Jun 2012 #94

Dig that poster's description of Bernie Sanders... Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #111

That's wonderful. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #126

Occupy has only begun LiberalLovinLug Jun 2012 #154

I have told the national Dem groups the same. Also, the same message goes to the prominent .... .... northoftheborder Jun 2012 #128

That's pretty much what I told them wryter2000 Jun 2012 #138

Don't look at me, I'm too old to be "the person of interest" in their debacles. DCKit Jun 2012 #8

kr. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #9

I for one am sick and tired of the do nothing congress! april Jun 2012 #13

Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #17

This is Democratic Underground...not anarchists central...why don't you go away? rfranklin Jun 2012 #20

Perhaps you should refamiliarize yourself with the TOS you agreed to? Otherwise, why post here? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #23

DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP! = Washington Generals PufPuf23 Jun 2012 #18

exactly, it is a game with a predetermined outcome and we have been fools for falling for it Dragonfli Jun 2012 #53

Debbie says this is a dry run for November. jerseyjack Jun 2012 #26

huh? Matariki Jun 2012 #31

I think she really said, "A dry rub". Fuddnik Jun 2012 #61

More like dry heaves. gkhouston Jun 2012 #76

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2012 #27

Truer words were never spoken. Cleita Jun 2012 #41

I delete them especially today LittleGirl Jun 2012 #44

The Democratic Party needs to march in step Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2012 #46

They couldn't overrule Citizens United. geek tragedy Jun 2012 #47

Deleted post creeksneakers2 Jun 2012 #83

Well said Oilwellian Jun 2012 #48

lolz JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #50

LOLZ "my dear" laundry_queen Jun 2012 #95

I think you win the award for "the most condescending post ever". Javaman Jun 2012 #104

Wow - this is rather insulting to our community. myrna minx Jun 2012 #109

WELL!! Kurovski Jun 2012 #144

Oh dear. We wouldn't want a repeat of last year's unpleasantness. myrna minx Jun 2012 #161

Thanks for the buttload of... 99Forever Jun 2012 #114

Yet the politicians and those involved keep getting it all wrong... /nt October Jun 2012 #122

Something tells me you were a ground level nobody, Marr Jun 2012 #125

LOL. Thanks. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #129

I've only done state level stuff, for the most part. JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #134

wow, i feel so insignificant, will you still allow my vote to count? turtlerescue1 Jun 2012 #142

Ok, whatever. JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #143

LIkely before your birth turtlerescue1 Jun 2012 #151

I see. JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #156

Every VOICE counts-in spite of Corporations turtlerescue1 Jun 2012 #159

I'd rather encourage action than support inaction JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #162

The reality is probably somewhere in the middle. Kurovski Jun 2012 #147

lolz JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #155

Come out for pot legalization and ending the drug war. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #52

The sad thing is, we on DU have been posting this same shit since presidential election theft 2000. MoonRiver Jun 2012 #55

I understand how it can feel that way, but things are changing. Kurovski Jun 2012 #149

You need to understand the concept of good cop bad cop. zeemike Jun 2012 #58

Disappointed danbeee46 Jun 2012 #59

They did do what they could with those two years treestar Jun 2012 #60

congress can overrule the supreme court? spanone Jun 2012 #65

Uh, they had non-stop filibustering for two years. nt valerief Jun 2012 #67

I want to hear solutions on how we are going to counter the Koch Bros, etc. jillan Jun 2012 #69

If Democrats don't fight for real campaign finance reform texshelters Jun 2012 #70

I want to hear what you plan on doing about CAMPAIGN FINANCE and CITIZEN'S UNITED. Maineman Jun 2012 #71

This is what we all need to focus on! Occupy, Dem's, Progressives etc. all need to repeat Dustlawyer Jun 2012 #127

The thing is, the Dems' corporate wing might be the next big thing for corporate America. Marr Jun 2012 #77

We have been watching that happen since at least the early nineties Dragonfli Jun 2012 #86

Well, you may be right. Marr Jun 2012 #124

Agreed. And the excuses are wearing very thin. n/t Fearless Jun 2012 #82

HEY DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP! I know you troll this place. Listen up. Andrew67 Jun 2012 #97

K&R. n/t DLevine Jun 2012 #98

+63 Million. corkhead Jun 2012 #100

the only thing i want to know: datasuspect Jun 2012 #102

My sentiments exactly. Rec #200 trof Jun 2012 #113

Good on you. I got the same emails and told them essentially the same thing. n/t whathehell Jun 2012 #117

"Unsubscribe" October Jun 2012 #123

CITIZEN'S UNITED was decided on January 21, 2010, we had already lost the house krawhitham Jun 2012 #132

No action by White House on Citizens United? AndyA Jun 2012 #139

They have also done NOTHING about Election Security and Voter Access. bvar22 Jun 2012 #150

+1 Matariki Jun 2012 #158

Because they don't want the money to DO shit ... Myrina Jun 2012 #141

I used to get all those emails until they extended the B*sh tax cuts harun Jun 2012 #146

ROFLMAO. Yeah, and the Pope is watching too! L. Coyote Jun 2012 #153

"better".... so far it ain't looking so good fascisthunter Jun 2012 #157

Sure, That 1% is pretty high maintenance. Kurovski Jun 2012 #160