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242. Yup, same exact arguments

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:24 AM

Apr 2016

And trying to discredit were used with lead, tobacco and still used with climate change. You need to get a job. You are good at this business. Alas I recognize it a thousand light years away (figure of speech).

Many other posters do as well. So you think your insult is going to have any effect?

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Fructose and HFCS: Once again the "skeptics"* are wrong. [View all] TalkingDog Apr 2016 OP

Uh-oh. Monsanto's trolls will be on you like mold on lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #1

LOL! SkyDaddy7 Apr 2016 #29

Boy, were you right! jomin41 Apr 2016 #30

So you're saying those who corrected the OP's errors are "Monsanto's trolls?" HuckleB Apr 2016 #32

If the brown hiking boot fits... jomin41 Apr 2016 #84

So supporting your claims is not your thing. HuckleB Apr 2016 #107

You certainly are. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #282

I go with science. HuckleB Apr 2016 #289

Yeah yeah, "science." JackRiddler Apr 2016 #316

No, I look at the actual evidence. HuckleB Apr 2016 #317

Yeah, yeah, "evidence." JackRiddler Apr 2016 #318

Shiva is a scam artist, of the worst kind. HuckleB Apr 2016 #319

You repeat the same lie over and over and think you win. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #323

You refuse to acknowledge the evidence. HuckleB Apr 2016 #325

And if he is not nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #346

Yea, you've shown that laughing is all you can do. HuckleB Apr 2016 #348

Too bad your FUD does not work either huh? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #349

Too bad your pointless, obsessively repeated accusations are false. HuckleB Apr 2016 #350

Mirror. Use it nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #351

I have for years. You should try it. HuckleB Apr 2016 #352

Same comment with lead nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #356

Nice socks. HuckleB Apr 2016 #357

Bamboo, renewable and comfy as hell nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #359

The googly eyes are a nice addition. HuckleB Apr 2016 #360

LMAO nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #363

Derp. HuckleB Apr 2016 #364

Thanks Jack R. I Know it remains a Sissyphian task to try and truedelphi Apr 2016 #331

ROFLMAO! HuckleB Apr 2016 #333

All that rolling on the floor you are doing womanofthehills Apr 2016 #371

Did someone give you Generic Other May 2016 #385

Derp. HuckleB May 2016 #392

"Derp" pretty much summarizes most of your posts,eh? Generic Other May 2016 #395

Cute. HuckleB May 2016 #399

+1,000,000. Thank dog somebody came right out and said it. It couldn't be more obvious. GoneFishin Apr 2016 #302

It's obvious that you can't discuss the issues. HuckleB Apr 2016 #308

And you make a ludicrous personal attack and run. HuckleB Apr 2016 #309

Yes, I see them now, below... sense Apr 2016 #31

People who correct bad claims are "bullies?" HuckleB Apr 2016 #34

Uhm, none of us said any of those things in the posts below, yet we are called bullies why you... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #56

I can't understand how some of them are allowed to run the Health Forum womanofthehills Apr 2016 #368

Honesty is not mean. HuckleB Apr 2016 #374

Stuns me as well. sense May 2016 #398

You expect a progressive site to support scam artists? HuckleB May 2016 #401

Proving my point that they do. sense May 2016 #402

Wrong answer. HuckleB May 2016 #403

It is inevitable as the sunrise. They're just doing their job. Zorra Apr 2016 #229

Anti-GMO activists are the ones practicing “tobacco science”. HuckleB Apr 2016 #245

The tobacco guys had evidence. Epidemiological. immoderate Apr 2016 #336

So you have nothing but fictions to offer? HuckleB Apr 2016 #337

I'm pointing to what your source said. I make up nothing. immoderate Apr 2016 #345

In other words, evidence is meaningless to you. HuckleB Apr 2016 #347

Meaningless evidence is, indeed, meaningless to me. immoderate Apr 2016 #353

And you confess that fictions are your thing, yet again. HuckleB Apr 2016 #354

You put the words right into my mouth! immoderate Apr 2016 #355

When's your novel being released? HuckleB Apr 2016 #358

Always felt those were bad for us, stopped buying anything with them in it years ago. djean111 Apr 2016 #2

If you eat no sugar, you will have no energy to power things like muscle movement. Maedhros Apr 2016 #332

I have got that covered when I eat fruit. djean111 Apr 2016 #335

And plenty of fructose in fruit, too! HuckleB Apr 2016 #338

ALMOST everything with HFCS has MSG as well. truedelphi Apr 2016 #339

I was responding to "we don't need to eat [sugar] at all." Maedhros Apr 2016 #340

Links to support your fictions about MSG? HuckleB Apr 2016 #344

Do your own research. truedelphi Apr 2016 #366

Another BS claim bites the dust. HuckleB Apr 2016 #367

Organic fruits and vegetables always have a 5 digit sticker code beginning with 9 womanofthehills Apr 2016 #369

Why are you promoting the organic marketing scam? HuckleB Apr 2016 #375

Don't eat eight, nine is fine Generic Other May 2016 #386

Bad link. CurtEastPoint Apr 2016 #3

Thanks. Fixed it. Copy/Cut/Paste error. n/t TalkingDog Apr 2016 #7

I'm not familiar with this debate. Why the focus on fructose in HFCS? Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #4

I think because HFCS is in EVERYTHING. TalkingDog Apr 2016 #6

I see. It's not a comparison to glucose. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #8

Indeed. Sugars weren't compared, the N is too small, & the study itself is at odds with the article. HuckleB Apr 2016 #10

Yep, just more click bait intended for the consumption of those who have no idea what sugar is Major Nikon Apr 2016 #12

But, but them durned "SKEPTICS"* are WRONG! Dang nabbit! HuckleB Apr 2016 #13

Princeton Univefrsity is "click bait"? puffy socks Apr 2016 #277

Name that logical fallacy. HuckleB Apr 2016 #287

Ah a real logical fallacy. puffy socks Apr 2016 #324

So, you have no idea what to say when you're propaganda is debunked. HuckleB Apr 2016 #326

You havent debunked it. nt puffy socks Apr 2016 #328

I did. Your denial doesn't change that. HuckleB Apr 2016 #330

Always spend time exploring before posting things that confirm your preconceptions. HuckleB Apr 2016 #320

I see, only your sources are the correct ones. puffy socks Apr 2016 #327

I see you can't accept that the study was clearly debunked. HuckleB Apr 2016 #329

Good point... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2016 #98

Also because this crud is manufactured from GMO corn grown in fields of glyphosate AxionExcel Apr 2016 #23

Yes. Trolls. Indydem Apr 2016 #25

Some have even been given a pizza for the trouble, yet live on as zombies Major Nikon Apr 2016 #163

but accoridng to other people, glyphosate is perfectly safe and chemicals used on organic foods are Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #33

glyphosate is actually safe, particularly in the levels found in food, are you saying there's... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #58

surely you admit glyphosate has some toxicity to people? Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #62

For perspective. HuckleB Apr 2016 #66

Of course, but that level is so low as to be practically irrelevant from a product safety... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #103

True. It's relatively safer compared to things like table salt Major Nikon Apr 2016 #164

World Health Organization Won’t Back Down From Study Linking Monsanto to Cancer womanofthehills Apr 2016 #115

HFCS & glyphosate residue are a freaken fugly Corporate Combo, Inc. (R) AxionExcel Apr 2016 #133

You're using a conspiracy theory loving source. HuckleB Apr 2016 #137

The EU says the IARC is full of shit as do 3 out of 4 WHO programs Major Nikon Apr 2016 #167

yup. HuckleB Apr 2016 #169

Duh! - So you go with the Guidelines for Drinking water people over womanofthehills Apr 2016 #175

So you just make crap up. HuckleB Apr 2016 #182

Just reading the chart HuckleB womanofthehills Apr 2016 #198

You are just making things up, as usual. HuckleB Apr 2016 #209

You do understand what "Guidelines" means, yes? Major Nikon Apr 2016 #214

3 out of 4 WHO programs agree on glyphosate safety Major Nikon Apr 2016 #166

FDA will begin testing food for glyphosate!!! It's about time!! womanofthehills Apr 2016 #176

3 out of 4 who programs are arikara Apr 2016 #180

Links? HuckleB Apr 2016 #183

Sure, along with every regulatory agency in the first world Major Nikon Apr 2016 #215

If it is so safe, why is the FDA going to start testing levels in our food womanofthehills Apr 2016 #189

The FDA is about to test the levels of glyphosate in food womanofthehills Apr 2016 #196

Really, apparently Australia conducted a study years ago... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #205

The government??? FDA is a joke in this matter!! - good for the Government Accountability Office!! womanofthehills Apr 2016 #248

Jeebus! merrily Apr 2016 #5

"The brain and the body are deficient in the machinery to make DHA; it has to come through our diet" Jim__ Apr 2016 #9

That's not what your link says Major Nikon Apr 2016 #11

beet sugar -fructose , GMO's and glyphosate womanofthehills Apr 2016 #188

Baseless fear mongering, like On Fox. HuckleB Apr 2016 #212

Your probably right - the sugar cane is probably GMO free but loaded with glysphate womanofthehills Apr 2016 #249

Thanks for showing us that you don't understand the topic at all, yet again. HuckleB Apr 2016 #250

Well thats just silly, sugar is refined to the point where there are no chemical differences.... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #266

Buying organic can keep the rivers and lakes from being even more polluted womanofthehills Apr 2016 #278

Why would that be scary, and is that even true? In addition, organic isn't better for the... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #293

Wow! you and HuckleB make a great team - talk exactly alike - maybe you are the same person womanofthehills May 2016 #381

How are the "skeptics" wrong? -nt Bradical79 Apr 2016 #14

They need to add a sucrose and a glucose arm sharp_stick Apr 2016 #15

^^^^this^^^^ mopinko Apr 2016 #17

Oh no, Monsanto would be proud womanofthehills May 2016 #382

And many more rats. HuckleB Apr 2016 #19

I'm really starting to wonder PasadenaTrudy Apr 2016 #43

It's scary to see people work so hard to maintain mistaken beliefs. HuckleB Apr 2016 #44

It's not *that* scary. ronnie624 Apr 2016 #55

There's a girl in Idaho who needs a heart and lung transplant because... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #57

That's very sad, ronnie624 Apr 2016 #63

It's belief in pseudoscience that makes it difficult to deal with climate change. HuckleB Apr 2016 #59

It's scary to see people who think putting pesticides in our bodies is a good thing womanofthehills Apr 2016 #116

Plants make their own pesticides skepticscott Apr 2016 #125

I don't think plants make organophosphates womanofthehills Apr 2016 #341

Organic pesticides are not safer. HuckleB Apr 2016 #128

Organic pesticides are safer - traditional farming uses organophostphate pesticides womanofthehills Apr 2016 #276

Not even close. And an old organic marketing blog pieces don't make it so. HuckleB Apr 2016 #279

That piece debunks the piece written by Christie Wilcox - corporation shill womanofthehills Apr 2016 #284

No, it doesn't. HuckleB Apr 2016 #286

The most commonly used "organic" fungicide is Copper Sulfate Major Nikon May 2016 #396

I discovered some time ago that Republicans don't have a monopoly on stupid. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2016 #237

Yup nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #256

. HuckleB Apr 2016 #258

It's amazing to see the disconnect. HuckleB Apr 2016 #259

DU, and liberalism more broadly, are subcultures.... Act_of_Reparation Apr 2016 #262

Spot on, and fantastic insight. HuckleB Apr 2016 #263

It's Sociology 101, not "a fantastic insight". CanSocDem Apr 2016 #314

Derp. HuckleB Apr 2016 #315

rats - are you projecting again! womanofthehills Apr 2016 #124

Seralini's abuse of rats is sad. HuckleB Apr 2016 #129

Sad? - the rats got to eat your favorite stuff - glyphosate womanofthehills Apr 2016 #342

As usual, you have no idea what you're talking about. HuckleB Apr 2016 #343

As usual, you are living on a different planet womanofthehills Apr 2016 #370

I am on the real planet. HuckleB Apr 2016 #376

They fed them a liter of soda. Indydem Apr 2016 #27

I was thinking the same thing TexasBushwhacker Apr 2016 #272

Just had my bowl of chia seeds and am aware of DhA's effects but this blew me away Person 2713 Apr 2016 #16

what's DHA? dionysus Apr 2016 #177

Wondering why HFCS and Sucrose were not tested....... yellowcanine Apr 2016 #18

Because that was what they were studying. And Anti HFCS Woo mongers are misinterpreting. Thor_MN Apr 2016 #80

In sucrose fructose and glucose are chemically combined as one molecule. yellowcanine Apr 2016 #99

When sucrose dissolves, the fructose and glucose separate. They are the same. Thor_MN Apr 2016 #102

Not really - needs to undergo hydrolysis, a chemical reaction. yellowcanine Apr 2016 #104

Did you read what you posted? Thor_MN Apr 2016 #105

Yep, it is a chemical reaction. And you mistated what I said about metabolism. yellowcanine Apr 2016 #106

See ya. Thor_MN Apr 2016 #111

For that matter, what about grapes and grape juice? D Gary Grady May 2016 #404

Sucrose is not a "mixture". It is a disaccharide with one glucose and one fructose molecule n/t eridani Apr 2016 #131

True, and that weak bond is broken virtually immediately by a weak acid Major Nikon Apr 2016 #135

So why did our digestive tracts ever evolve sucrases? eridani Apr 2016 #202

Because your body needs enzymes to digest all carbohydrates Major Nikon Apr 2016 #216

OK--then stomach acidity is irrelevant. Glad we agree n/t eridani Apr 2016 #296

I agree to no such nonsense Major Nikon Apr 2016 #298

I discovered a third form of carbonic anhydrase, so I know what an enzyme is eridani Apr 2016 #299

Well you certainly failed to demonstrate that knowledge Major Nikon Apr 2016 #300

You need digestive enzymes. That's mostly what breaks down sucrose into eridani Apr 2016 #301

Wrong Major Nikon Apr 2016 #303

That is bullshit. The enzyme catalazed rate is 1000X the uncatalyzed rate eridani Apr 2016 #361

I am aware of the chemical structure of sucrose. Thor_MN Apr 2016 #153

It does NOT mean a molecule. Salad dressing is a mixture. Sucrose is not n/t eridani Apr 2016 #201

I have a BA in chemistry. I am well aware of the technical differences. Thor_MN Apr 2016 #217

If acidity alone does the trick, why do we have sucrases? n/t eridani Apr 2016 #297

You think there is only one way to skin a cat? Thor_MN Apr 2016 #304

I don't just think, I KNOW that catalyzed reactions are thousands of times faster than eridani Apr 2016 #362

And,,, You've admited uncatalyzed reactions exist, destroying your line of... Thor_MN Apr 2016 #365

If uncatalized rates were fast enough, there would be no sucrase or invertase n/t eridani Apr 2016 #372

I see logic is not your strong suit either. Thor_MN Apr 2016 #373

I'd like people to quit talking about acidic hydrolysis as if it were meaningful eridani Apr 2016 #377

Get over it. The fact that there are enzymes in no way invalidates other mechanisms. Thor_MN Apr 2016 #378

Food doesn't sit around for months in your digestive tract eridani Apr 2016 #379

Wow. Have fun with your beliefs, you are out there on your own island. Thor_MN Apr 2016 #380

If acid were enough, sucrase and invertase would not exist, period n/t eridani May 2016 #383

Back to the "There can be only one" nonsense, with absolutely nothing to back it up... Thor_MN May 2016 #384

Let sucrose sit around long enough in acid and it will eventually hydrolyze eridani May 2016 #387

We don't have invertase in our guts, unless we add it to our food. Thor_MN May 2016 #388

WE've got sucrase n/t eridani May 2016 #389

Yes, we do. Which still means nothing, as you have no point. Thor_MN May 2016 #390

Acid hydrolysis takes place over time in bottles eridani May 2016 #391

Bargle, garble same old crap. Thor_MN May 2016 #393

Working and being significant are two different things. eridani May 2016 #394

Which skeptics? Your link doesn't compare different sugars. N/t Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #20

I was thinking the same thing. drm604 Apr 2016 #39

I think even saying sugar is bad for you is incorrect, we need it to live... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #46

True, and obviously that's what I meant. drm604 Apr 2016 #51

I like my spoonful of sugars, there's also the other side, lack of exercise. Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #54

You and me both (and every other human on the planet). drm604 Apr 2016 #64

Fish from where? womanofthehills Apr 2016 #117

I'm not aware of any cesium contamination in commercial fish (maybe I just haven't heard about it) drm604 Apr 2016 #147

It's only been the Pacific Ocean fish womanofthehills Apr 2016 #281

Too much salt, too much potassium...not enough sodium, not enough etc.. Rex Apr 2016 #77

Too much alcohol, on the other hand, is relative, especially... HuckleB Apr 2016 #79

That was what the article was about. How DHA protects the brain and perhaps improves the brain. LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #230

Exactly. That's why I said it. drm604 Apr 2016 #232

And what were they wrong about before? HuckleB Apr 2016 #40

A tanker full of HFCS overturned and ruptured on a highway near here. Orrex Apr 2016 #21

We manipulate the market to insure the use of corn syrup in our foods... jtuck004 Apr 2016 #22

The Japanese invented it but Ohio perfected it. fasttense Apr 2016 #24

What's hilarious about self-described "skeptics" is that they are never skeptical about corporate villager Apr 2016 #26

+ 1 AxionExcel Apr 2016 #41

Well that's just not true, but keep believing that if it makes you feel better. n/t Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #47

I'd love to see some examples of "corporate skepticism...." villager Apr 2016 #48

Examples of concern, in for example, food production... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #49

Those are some good points. villager Apr 2016 #50

The issue is when you have to make shit up to get your point across, that's not honest... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #53

Not sure where those replies are headed, exactly. villager Apr 2016 #61

We are talking about scientific issues, not political or economic... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #74

You seem to think the political and economic is entirely divorced from the scientific. villager Apr 2016 #113

The scientific should be used to inform policies, but aren't policies themselves.... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #204

Alas in 1986 when I took a college class nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #223

Except you appear to want to simply make things up and pretend science will support them. HuckleB Apr 2016 #225

Look even if I cited the actual early studies here nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #226

Again, those studies refer to fructose. HuckleB Apr 2016 #227

Making the same FUD arguments nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #235

Nope. Your accusation is ludicrous. HuckleB Apr 2016 #238

Yes you are nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #239

You haven't bothered to understand the topic at hand. HuckleB Apr 2016 #241

Yup, same exact arguments nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #242

And more baseless assumptions. HuckleB Apr 2016 #243

Actually I do nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #246

You have already pushed misinformation about the topic, so your claim is rather misleading. HuckleB Apr 2016 #247

Cherry picked. Yup more corporate FUD nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #254

You seem to think that ignoring the science and crying "corporate FUD!" magically ... HuckleB Apr 2016 #257

Mirror and self awareness nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #267

Fructose is present in most foods you eat, thats a fact... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #268

Excuse me. HuckleB Apr 2016 #269

"Skeptical Inquirer" is the sole arbiter of skepticism? Thor_MN Apr 2016 #305

Monsanto should be blamed - Agent Orange, Dioxin, DDT, Roundup, PCB's, rBGH, GMO's womanofthehills Apr 2016 #118

So now its down to outright lying? Seriously, has there been a single post you have posted... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #140

Actually you were lying in one of the posts above womanofthehills Apr 2016 #197

Glyphosate has little toxicity, the levels would have to be extremely high to be toxic to humans.... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #206

You say the levels of glyphosate need to be high womanofthehills Apr 2016 #251

And yet you have no worries about organic pesticides and herbicides... HuckleB Apr 2016 #252

What organic pesticide womanofthehills Apr 2016 #285

You've been given links showing that. HuckleB Apr 2016 #292

Youbwould have to drink the concentrate to get measurable health effects.... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #255

It seems like our bread supply is getting to that level womanofthehills Apr 2016 #280

Why do you accuse me of lying? Agent Orange brought to you by Monsanto and Dow womanofthehills Apr 2016 #199

No shit, they were forced to do so by the government, the government even knew the health effects... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #203

I'd humbly recommend spending more time w/ skeptics Nevernose Apr 2016 #83

Good post. drm604 Apr 2016 #65

Indeed. It's astounding to see people just make blanket statements about others. HuckleB Apr 2016 #67

I've seen many posts of corporate skepticism. ZombieHorde Apr 2016 #101

And that post is the perfect example of what I was talking about. villager Apr 2016 #112

Exxon and the like whom destroy the environment, many banks, etc., ZombieHorde Apr 2016 #148

Not off-topic at all. The sub-thread topic was "who is skepticism reserved for?" villager Apr 2016 #149

The addition of the attack on skeptics was without warrant. HuckleB Apr 2016 #151

No -- it was furthering what was stated in the OP, actually. villager Apr 2016 #155

Thanks for the confirmation. HuckleB Apr 2016 #156

" Anyone can call themselves a skeptic." Thanks for the confirmation! villager Apr 2016 #157

Oh, goodness. That response is more hilarious than you, apparently, could ever imagine. HuckleB Apr 2016 #159

No need to disparage my imagination, my friend. I need it for the SF threads... villager Apr 2016 #186

Ben Goldacre. HuckleB Apr 2016 #108

Interesting how corporate public relations arguments suddenly become the bar of accepted truth. pa28 Apr 2016 #179

Prove it with a consensus of science. HuckleB Apr 2016 #184

Hi HuckleB. pa28 Apr 2016 #192

I'm glad you liked the Cervantes piece. HuckleB Apr 2016 #210

Well, the OP claims that the fructose in HFCS is "different" from other fructose Scootaloo Apr 2016 #231

Exactly. So little "skepticism" applied to corporate PR spin.... villager Apr 2016 #233

The only spin here comes from conspiracy theory, anti-science silliness. HuckleB Apr 2016 #270

Sure. villager Apr 2016 #271

How does this study have anything to do with "the halls of financial and political power?" HuckleB Apr 2016 #273

History simply shows that skepticism should generally be levied toward the powerful villager Apr 2016 #274

Generalized platitudes don't support any of your claims. HuckleB Apr 2016 #275

You are free to have as many corn-syrup laden products as you want, HuckleB villager Apr 2016 #283

And another pointless throw-away post. HuckleB Apr 2016 #288

"You just repeat your preconceptions ad nauseum" villager Apr 2016 #290

Not true. HuckleB Apr 2016 #291

Well, there at least is a genuine yearning for conversation, it seems, underneath all that. villager Apr 2016 #294

Just FYI. HuckleB Apr 2016 #295

Does the OP not use "skeptics" as a pejorative for those who actually understand science? Thor_MN Apr 2016 #306

It was a riposte to those self-anointed "skeptics" who sought to keep the term to themselves villager Apr 2016 #310

Indeed, and, as it turned out, in a rather ironic manner. HuckleB Apr 2016 #311

It does explain where you are coming from... HuckleB Apr 2016 #312

Well, we disagree, though in a non-incendiary manner, at least. villager Apr 2016 #313

I agree with your last comment/question to no end. HuckleB Apr 2016 #321

If you mentioned that name in one our "outside" threads, I forgot. villager Apr 2016 #322

Other countries don't use high-fructose corn syrup in their product. procon Apr 2016 #28

And neither did the study. HFCS is not in this study. Thor_MN Apr 2016 #81

It's my choice, yeah? procon Apr 2016 #89

I hear Cooking and Baking is a good forum. Thor_MN Apr 2016 #90

Don't act like the forum police and try to tell me where I can post and what I can write about. procon Apr 2016 #94

You are actually calling me a son of a bitch? Thor_MN Apr 2016 #95

LOL - SOB is just Internet jargon for Scroll On By procon Apr 2016 #96

OK, but you do see how it works. We both get opinions. Thor_MN Apr 2016 #97

You are really projecting womanofthehills Apr 2016 #121

Do you have anything constructive to contribute or are you just here to insult? Thor_MN Apr 2016 #154

Well it's in the headline of this study womanofthehills Apr 2016 #120

No, it is not, you are 100% wrong. Please try reading it again. Thor_MN Apr 2016 #158

Other countries don't have enormous corn subsidies, either Scootaloo Apr 2016 #228

fructose has long been known to be toxic, this isn't really new. ALSO, most sugar has fructose Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #35

Wrong on almost all counts. GaYellowDawg Apr 2016 #69

wow, you basically just rewrote everything I said, but I'm glad we agree overall Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #92

There is plenty of Science out there that corborates this. Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #36

It's not poison. GaYellowDawg Apr 2016 #70

Suggest you read up on HFCS a little more. Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #71

LOL... GaYellowDawg Apr 2016 #73

+1 HuckleB Apr 2016 #78

Ah, GaYellowdawg, facts are meaningless! Maedhros Apr 2016 #334

Of course our bodies don't metabolize fructose and glucose in the same way. TexasProgresive Apr 2016 #37

A little correction... GaYellowDawg Apr 2016 #72

You were consuming up to 60 cubes of sugar a day. Thor_MN Apr 2016 #85

Maybe, if so why do they feed the Wistar fatty rats fructose to elevate TGs? TexasProgresive Apr 2016 #91

Because fructose is processed in the liver and used to create TGs. Thor_MN Apr 2016 #93

I did not test out of normal until after the switch to HFCS. TexasProgresive Apr 2016 #132

Did you not age before the switch to HFCS? Thor_MN Apr 2016 #150

I guess you have to be right TexasProgresive Apr 2016 #165

Guess what? I am taking Metformin for Type 2 diabetes as of 4 months ago. Thor_MN Apr 2016 #168

Good lecture on fructose mdbl Apr 2016 #38

I know the author of this work greymattermom Apr 2016 #42

Sugar is half fructose. trotsky Apr 2016 #45

Corn Syrup Has Nastier Effects Than Sugar On Female Mice - Reuters AxionExcel Apr 2016 #68

Did you know sugar is half fructose? trotsky Apr 2016 #87

Yes. I also know that apples aren't manufactured from GMO corn raised in glyphosate-soaked fields AxionExcel Apr 2016 #134

Could you demonstrate the chemical difference between fructose in HFCS... trotsky Apr 2016 #136

Please hire a lab to conduct the experiment you require AxionExcel Apr 2016 #138

It's already been done. trotsky Apr 2016 #143

And yet he accepts chemtrails Major Nikon Apr 2016 #161

Warning Warning Warning AxionExcel Apr 2016 #221

I see you're still butthurt over getting banned for pushing chemtrail nonsense Major Nikon Apr 2016 #222

OHHHHHH trotsky Apr 2016 #253

+1 Pastiche423 Apr 2016 #200

Remember "New Coke" tonyt53 Apr 2016 #52

... Major Nikon Apr 2016 #60

+1 HuckleB Apr 2016 #75

Mexican coke in bottles still has sugar womanofthehills Apr 2016 #119

Yeah... About that. A study done in California showed no real difference in Mexican coke. Thor_MN Apr 2016 #307

No one has ever said "all sugars are the same" Scootaloo Apr 2016 #76

How dare you bring reason to an emotional debate... uriel1972 Apr 2016 #86

Roughly 10 years ago, there was research indicating that Ilsa Apr 2016 #82

Links? HuckleB Apr 2016 #110

I've tried to find them. My apologies. Nt Ilsa Apr 2016 #126

The studies were about the hormone leptin, which signals the feeling of satiety. BuddhaGirl Apr 2016 #139

It's related to fructose, which is in table sugar at the same basic amount as HFCS. HuckleB Apr 2016 #142

Then don't pay any attention to it BuddhaGirl Apr 2016 #146

Why would you promote misinformation? HuckleB Apr 2016 #152

Nobody does Major Nikon Apr 2016 #160

Thank you! nt Ilsa Apr 2016 #144

You're welcome! BuddhaGirl Apr 2016 #145

Uhm, fructose is a sugar, are you claiming ohterwise? Table sugar is about half fructose... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #141

Eat. Real. Food. milestogo Apr 2016 #88

I don't know what that means. Honey is real food with as much fructose as HFCS. yellowcanine Apr 2016 #100

Don't. Post. Derp. HuckleB Apr 2016 #109

Rude as usual womanofthehills Apr 2016 #122

Get a mirror. HuckleB Apr 2016 #130

Olive Garden is having a special felix_numinous Apr 2016 #114

And lucky children - all you can eat! womanofthehills Apr 2016 #123

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #127

Well DUH! And we have sort of the proof in the pudding nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #162

What are you talking about? HuckleB Apr 2016 #170

IN case you have not heard nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #171

So...? HuckleB Apr 2016 #172

Ok nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #173

So you think it's cool to spread misinformation. HuckleB Apr 2016 #174

Nah, just that science is not a religion nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #191

What dots, what connections? What are you talking about? n/t Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #208

Read tje thread. And tobacco's downfall started the same way nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #218

Uhm, tobacco's downfall started at attempting to cover up the health effects of tobacco... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #260

Science is not a religion, but your connections claim is unsupported. HuckleB Apr 2016 #213

You'll see nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #219

You really are just making it up. WOW! HuckleB Apr 2016 #224

That would have been just as "lunatic" as claiming global warming was coming, in the 70's and 80's villager Apr 2016 #187

I remember a course at San Diego State in 1986 that mentioned it nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #190

I wrote a play about it in the 80's! Even among "edgy" theater folk, they thought it was kind of villager Apr 2016 #193

Some here still call it dystopia nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #194

Certainly not at Titanic Underground villager Apr 2016 #195

True nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #220

Its a long assed study, how long have we been refining sugar? Few hundred years at least... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #207

Lies!!!! northernsouthern Apr 2016 #178

So you don't know anything about the topic. HuckleB Apr 2016 #181

I do actually... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #185

If you know so much, why are you pushing propaganda? HuckleB Apr 2016 #211

So, in other words, no you don't. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2016 #240

Never touch the stuff, never fed it to the kids, and the kids never feed it to the Zorra Apr 2016 #234

None of you have ever had fructose? HuckleB Apr 2016 #244

What, you don't believe them? Act_of_Reparation Apr 2016 #264

Hey, wait a second. HuckleB Apr 2016 #265

You know, I'll be honest, it is much healthier to avoid refined sugar, no joke... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #261

Bad carbs are bad carbs. ananda Apr 2016 #236

I think the quotation marks and the asterisk kinda cancel each other out. Rex May 2016 #397

And the fact that the OP failed to defend his claims is odd. HuckleB May 2016 #400