Debbie Wasserman Schulz needs to go.

[Pab Sungenis]

141. Watch your accusations.

You have your particular interests and you think that splintering is going to serve those.

I don't think that splintering is going to serve anything. I don't want there to be splintering. But people like you seem intent on splintering it by continuously marginalizing liberals and pushing us out of the party.

There would not have been a Nader 2000 campaign if liberals had felt welcome in the Democratic Party. They came back into the fold after the disaster of Bush, but the people who pushed them away seem intent on doing it again.

i don't see you getting anywhere with the things you say you want with a minority of support refusing to coalesce with Democrats who may not share each and every plank of your agenda to

"Each and every?" Try any. End the wars? The Democrats escalated them before pressure on Obama finally started wrapping them up. Health care reform? We got a program worse than Bob Dole's from 1996 that might not even stand up before the Supreme Court because of the half-ass way it was structured.

Me, slamming the door in your face? You have a persecution conflict.

Attitudes like the ones you exhibit make it harder for liberals to be Democrats every single day. And every complaint is met with "would it be better with Romney?" The sad thing is that eventually it might start to look like things would be better with Republicans because at least we'll see them when the knife goes in, instead of getting stabbed in the back by our "friends." When that point is reached, this party is done for and hopefully there will be at least a few pieces left for us to pick up afterward. It happened in 2000. It happened in 2010. I don't want it to happen now.

Me, slamming the door in your face? You have a persecution conflict. I, personally haven't 'slammed the door' in ANY liberal's face.

Maybe not you, personally, but people like you. No, wait, you too.

Good luck electing a dogcatcher with amount of support your splinter group will get.

The person doing the splintering there is you. You're the one unilaterally pushing me off into some splinter group. I'm not going anywhere.

I'm a union worker who has an opinion that I express here.

Good for you. I'm a Democrat.

And get this, Sungenis, I'm not splintering off from the Democratic party to sit in some corner with you and pout

No, you're trying to force those who don't agree with you out of the party. Or at least out of any viable part of the dialogue.

I don't find the Democratic party in complete agreement with my own agenda, either, but I'm not delusional enough to believe that I'd get anywhere with those issues standing off somewhere, apart from supporting our Democratic coalition.

No, you're just telling those who don't agree with you to sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up or Romney will get elected. Why not try to bring those who disagree with you around to your point of view? Oh, wait, that's right, "the left has nowhere else to go."

Outside of the Democratic party, your agenda is just an aspiration. Working within the party, it's an opportunity.

Not when we don't get a seat at the table, and our complaints about right-wing policies in our party and a failure to support a genuine left-wing grassroots movement are met with disdain while being told that if we don't toe the line then Romney will be elected.

Walking away from the party and having legislative success is a crap-shoot, but you're trying pretend like it's some panacea. Being so involved in Democratic politics, I'd think you'd realize that enough to acknowledge it.

Wrong. Without liberals the base of the Democratic Party crumbles. It's not a panacea, it's something to be avoided. If this party keeps moving rightward, and people like you keep telling the left to shut up and sit down, then eventually nothing is going to get accomplished because there won't be a Democratic Party to oppose the Republicans.

May I ask what you've done to elect Democratic candidates? You're a union member. Have you at least knocked on doors for GOTV?