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Showing Original Post only (View all)We Need to Stop Treating Naturopaths Like They’re Medical Doctors [View all]
On April 26, David and Collet Stephan, the Alberta couple who treated their sick toddler with horseradish and onion smoothies for two weeks, were found guilty of failing to provide the necessaries of life to their 18-month-old son, a sentence that carries up to five years in jail. Ezekiel died of meningitis in 2012.
Its a tragic story, even more so because nobody doubts that David and Collet Stephan loved their son. Instead, they seem to have misguidedly believed that alternative therapies, including an echinacea tincture they bought at a naturopaths office, would help him get better. The boy eventually stopped breathing, and they phoned 911. He later died in hospital. (The parents testified that they thought Ezekiel had the flu, although a family friend and nurse had suggested he may have meningitis.)
Doctors, government, and the alternative medicine industry all have a duty to do better here. Horseradish and echinacea are no substitute for conventional, science-based medicine. Patients across Canada need better access to family doctors, and they need to knowwithout a doubtwhen its time to seek one out, and forego the naturopath.
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Naturopaths have been given the right to self-regulate in many parts of Canada, like Alberta, which gives them a veneer of professionalism. But the general public should be clear on this: plenty of their most popular services still have little or no science behind them. In a 2011 survey in Alberta, Caulfield found that homeopathy, detoxification, and hydrotherapy were among the most popular and advertised treatments offered by Albertas naturopaths. There is no scientific evidence to support those services at all, he said.
Detoxing, for one, has been debunked over and over again. But people keep paying for it.
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/we-need-to-stop-treating-naturopaths-like-theyre-medical-doctors-alberta
Its a tragic story, even more so because nobody doubts that David and Collet Stephan loved their son. Instead, they seem to have misguidedly believed that alternative therapies, including an echinacea tincture they bought at a naturopaths office, would help him get better. The boy eventually stopped breathing, and they phoned 911. He later died in hospital. (The parents testified that they thought Ezekiel had the flu, although a family friend and nurse had suggested he may have meningitis.)
Doctors, government, and the alternative medicine industry all have a duty to do better here. Horseradish and echinacea are no substitute for conventional, science-based medicine. Patients across Canada need better access to family doctors, and they need to knowwithout a doubtwhen its time to seek one out, and forego the naturopath.
--snip--
Naturopaths have been given the right to self-regulate in many parts of Canada, like Alberta, which gives them a veneer of professionalism. But the general public should be clear on this: plenty of their most popular services still have little or no science behind them. In a 2011 survey in Alberta, Caulfield found that homeopathy, detoxification, and hydrotherapy were among the most popular and advertised treatments offered by Albertas naturopaths. There is no scientific evidence to support those services at all, he said.
Detoxing, for one, has been debunked over and over again. But people keep paying for it.
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/we-need-to-stop-treating-naturopaths-like-theyre-medical-doctors-alberta
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cleanhippie
Apr 2016
OP
Unfortunately, those that choose naturopaths over medical doctors have rejected reason altogether.
cleanhippie
Apr 2016
#3
I agree std. healthcare messed up. Too much about $ and networkbuilding /removing independnt drs and
lunasun
Apr 2016
#25
A fairly extensive study of homeopathic remedies was recently conducted by—well, I
Gene Debs
Apr 2016
#8
Whole Foods and its imitators like New Seasons sell it in the impulse section.
HuckleB
Apr 2016
#106
Homeopathy isn't a protected term, anyone can label any supplement as "homeopathic" and...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2016
#109
I'm sure you're trying to make a point, but I'm not sure you know what it is.
cleanhippie
Apr 2016
#17
Okay sure, getting ill might not kill ya...but a broken bone or any number of internal
Rex
Apr 2016
#20
1/3 to 1/2 of Europe died of the plague. Today we can treat it with a $4 antibiotic.
LeftyMom
Apr 2016
#33
True but even if you only take the adult life expectancy, things have improved a lot
LeftishBrit
Apr 2016
#118
Jesus fucking Christ, the evidence is right in front of your eyes, visit a graveyard...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2016
#46
My mother almost died as a child of scarletina. That was only 65 years ago.
Starry Messenger
Apr 2016
#133
not to be confused with naturopathic physicians like the one who saved my life
Viva_La_Revolution
Apr 2016
#21
i decided not to count that first doctor, since to be fair i only had a few symptoms back then
Viva_La_Revolution
Apr 2016
#39
Interesting, so they use conventional methods of diagnosis, and then treats with alternative...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2016
#49
that was 10 years ago, a surgeon cured it. my NP diagnosed hashimotos
Viva_La_Revolution
Apr 2016
#61
So, I'm assuming they didn't give you the "conventional" treatment plan for managing your..
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2016
#72
no, she did not prescribe a synthetic T4 and tell me to come back in 6months
Viva_La_Revolution
Apr 2016
#77
Which is also prescribed by regular MDs all the time, though it isn't as preferred as the....
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2016
#108
NDs i looked it up and a link to calm your fears about the money and quality issues
Viva_La_Revolution
Apr 2016
#83
See this just shows how much bullshit they are full off, from the first two sentences:
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2016
#62
Are you not concerned with the length of training to become a Naturopathic Doctor?
passiveporcupine
Apr 2016
#91
proof no one actually reads the links i posted. i guess my doc is best of both worlds
Viva_La_Revolution
Apr 2016
#94
PPI's might be necessary, especially for someone that has a lap-sleeve bypass.
AtheistCrusader
Apr 2016
#31
I think most conventional doctors would recommend diet changes and other methods...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2016
#51
The chiropractors that give babies 'adjustments' for colic should be first against the wall.
AtheistCrusader
Apr 2016
#30
No shit, I really don't understand this argument, there are a lot of remedies that are evidence...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2016
#74
Well you can't find fault with it, so you make a personal attack. We see that. . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Apr 2016
#92
You've had much time & 2 opportunities to actually post something meaningful, but
Bernardo de La Paz
Apr 2016
#103
I've had much time to do things either more pressing or more enjoyable...
Act_of_Reparation
Apr 2016
#129
Lots of good ideas here. Thanks. You're right that binary thinking is very hard for some people
pnwmom
Apr 2016
#114
U.W. Medical Center, one of the top medical schools in the US, disagrees with you.
pnwmom
Apr 2016
#113
No, I didn't use the term. Those words came directly from the University of Washington web site.
pnwmom
Apr 2016
#138
Seriously, where do you come up with this nonsense? ND's are being MURDERED? Seriously?
cleanhippie
Apr 2016
#125
The usual CT sites. Funny thing is that the poster mixed up two different conspiracies.
HuckleB
Apr 2016
#126
Some misinformation in this article (but the parents are still fucking morons)
laundry_queen
Apr 2016
#139