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struggle4progress

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26. The term "organic pesticides" will confuse the hell out of everybody

Reply to HuckleB (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:27 AM

Apr 2016

The adjective "organic" has a long history in chemistry, being used as a technical word: "Organic chemistry" (for example) simply refers to the chemistry of carbon compounds

So an "organic pesticide" will be understood by many people to mean a pesticide that has a carbon skeleton -- as opposed to a pesticide (such as arsenic trioxide or thallium sulfate) which is not carbon-based

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Organic Pesticides. Yes, They Do Exist, And Are Used. [View all] HuckleB Apr 2016 OP

I recall reading that there's a bit of a turf war. Wilms Apr 2016 #1

That argument, of course, points out the reality that "organic" is just a marketing term. HuckleB Apr 2016 #2

The small farmers, you, and I agree. Wilms Apr 2016 #6

Regardless, it's always been just a marketing term. HuckleB Apr 2016 #8

Also conventional produce gets exported and magically imported back as "organic." yellowcanine Apr 2016 #4

Eek! Wilms Apr 2016 #7

Scams may beget scams. HuckleB Apr 2016 #16

Nicotine is very toxic to humans. Rotenone is somewhat toxic. yellowcanine Apr 2016 #3

Luckily, rotenone is not really used any more. HuckleB Apr 2016 #5

Nicotine has been banned for at least 14 years appal_jack Apr 2016 #18

All I can tell you is that there are many warnings about Neem and pregnancy yellowcanine Apr 2016 #19

All true points. appal_jack Apr 2016 #20

The persistence of synthetic pesticides is correct. The flip side of that is that organic yellowcanine Apr 2016 #21

There is also the issue of fuel use and pollution for each added application of organic products. HuckleB Apr 2016 #24

Just yesterday I saw the only real difference, between "organic" and others. Archae Apr 2016 #9

Corporate marketing, at its ugliest. HuckleB Apr 2016 #10

Like to get me some of that GMO chicken.... yellowcanine Apr 2016 #14

It's CRISPR! HuckleB Apr 2016 #15

Pyrethroids are derivatives of the chrysanthemum Drahthaardogs Apr 2016 #11

All good and well, the LD50 is still not better than for things like glyphosate or Imidacloprid. HuckleB Apr 2016 #12

Pyrethroids are synthetic pyrethrins. yellowcanine Apr 2016 #13

Most synthetic pesticides are derived from naturally occurring ones Major Nikon Apr 2016 #22

. HuckleB Apr 2016 #17

Save the Bees! Ban these two toxic organic pesticides immediately HuckleB Apr 2016 #23

Natural versus Synthetic Chemicals Is a Gray Matter HuckleB Apr 2016 #25

It's a marketing gimmick based on an appeal to nature fallacy Major Nikon Apr 2016 #28

Alas, you are correct on all accounts. -eom- HuckleB Apr 2016 #30

The term "organic pesticides" will confuse the hell out of everybody struggle4progress Apr 2016 #26

All true, but in this era it's well understood via the mass marketing of "organic" food. HuckleB Apr 2016 #27

Two different definitions Major Nikon Apr 2016 #29