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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #26)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:09 PM

29. Two different definitions

In this case the intended implication is "naturally occurring" vs synthetic, but this literally false as several synthetic products are approved under the National Organic Program.

So in no sense of the word does "organic" actually mean organic.

§205.601 Synthetic substances allowed for use in organic crop production

§205.603 Synthetic substances allowed for use in organic livestock production

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30 replies	Author	Time	Post
Organic Pesticides. Yes, They Do Exist, And Are Used. [View all]	HuckleB	Apr 2016	OP
I recall reading that there's a bit of a turf war.	Wilms	Apr 2016	#1
That argument, of course, points out the reality that "organic" is just a marketing term.	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#2
The small farmers, you, and I agree.	Wilms	Apr 2016	#6
Regardless, it's always been just a marketing term.	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#8
Also conventional produce gets exported and magically imported back as "organic."	yellowcanine	Apr 2016	#4
Eek!	Wilms	Apr 2016	#7
Scams may beget scams.	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#16
Nicotine is very toxic to humans. Rotenone is somewhat toxic.	yellowcanine	Apr 2016	#3
Luckily, rotenone is not really used any more.	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#5
Nicotine has been banned for at least 14 years	appal_jack	Apr 2016	#18
All I can tell you is that there are many warnings about Neem and pregnancy	yellowcanine	Apr 2016	#19
All true points.	appal_jack	Apr 2016	#20
The persistence of synthetic pesticides is correct. The flip side of that is that organic	yellowcanine	Apr 2016	#21
There is also the issue of fuel use and pollution for each added application of organic products.	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#24
Just yesterday I saw the only real difference, between "organic" and others.	Archae	Apr 2016	#9
Corporate marketing, at its ugliest.	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#10
Like to get me some of that GMO chicken....	yellowcanine	Apr 2016	#14
It's CRISPR!	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#15
Pyrethroids are derivatives of the chrysanthemum	Drahthaardogs	Apr 2016	#11
All good and well, the LD50 is still not better than for things like glyphosate or Imidacloprid.	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#12
Pyrethroids are synthetic pyrethrins.	yellowcanine	Apr 2016	#13
Most synthetic pesticides are derived from naturally occurring ones	Major Nikon	Apr 2016	#22
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Save the Bees! Ban these two toxic organic pesticides immediately	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#23
Natural versus Synthetic Chemicals Is a Gray Matter	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#25
It's a marketing gimmick based on an appeal to nature fallacy	Major Nikon	Apr 2016	#28
Alas, you are correct on all accounts. -eom-	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#30
The term "organic pesticides" will confuse the hell out of everybody	struggle4progress	Apr 2016	#26
All true, but in this era it's well understood via the mass marketing of "organic" food.	HuckleB	Apr 2016	#27
Two different definitions	Major Nikon	Apr 2016	#29

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