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In reply to the discussion: We Need to Stop Treating Naturopaths Like They’re Medical Doctors [View all]pnwmom
(110,326 posts)113. U.W. Medical Center, one of the top medical schools in the US, disagrees with you.
https://www.washington.edu/uaa/advising/at-the-uw/pre-health-advising/fields/medicine/
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And Bastyr University and the National Institutes of Health disagrees with you.
Bastyr University offers Washington's only program in Naturopathic Medicine. Some Bastyr University research:
http://www.bastyr.edu/research/studies
Breast Cancer Integrative Oncology: Prospective Matched Controlled Outcomes Study
Status: Active
Study area: Oncology
Principal investigator: Leanna J. Standish, ND, PhD, LAc, FABNO; M. Robyn Andersen, PhD
Funded by: Primary funding by: NIH/NCCAM Grant No. 1R01AT005873; Study Expansion funding by: Lotte & John Hecht Foundation
Project period: 8/1/10 12/31/18
Intranasal Glutathione in Parkinson's Disease
Status: Completed
Study area: Neurology
Principal investigator: Laurie Mischley, ND, MPH
Funded by: NIH/NCCAM
Project period: 01/01/10 - 12/31/14
Bastyr/UW Oncomycology Translational Research Center
Status: Active
Study area: Oncology
Principal investigator: Leanna Standish, ND, PhD, LAc, FABNO; Mary L. (Nora) Disis, MD
Co-investigator(s): Lupe Salazar, MD, Hailing Lu, MD, PhD, Erin Sweet, ND
Funded by: NIH/NCCAM/NCI (U19) Partnership with University of Washington
Project period: 09/29/2010 - 08/31/2014
PSK as Neoadjuvant Therapy for Locally Advanced Breast Cancer Principal
Status: Completed
Study area: Oncology
Principal investigator: Hailing Lu (University of Washington)
Co-investigator(s): Cynthia Wenner, PhD
Project period: April 2010 March 2014
Sauna Detoxification Study
Status: Completed
Study area: General Wellness, Other
Principal investigator: Jason Allen, ND, MPH
Funded by: NIH/NCCAM
Project period: 07/01/13-04/30/14
Haptoglobin Phenotype and Smoking: Effects on Iron Levels in Parkinsons Disease
Status: Recruiting
Study area: Neurology
Principal investigator: Paola Costa-Mallen, PhD
Co-investigator(s): Yoshimi Anzai, MD, MPH; Harvey Checkoway, PhD; Shu-Ching Hu, MD
Funded by: NIH/National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke
Project period: 02/01/2013- 01/31/2015
Medicine
To be "pre-med" means you are embarking on a course of study aimed at preparing you to apply to a medical school (or other post-graduate health profession). It means you are taking the classes and gaining the experiences that these schools look for in qualified applicants.
To be "pre-med" means you are embarking on a course of study aimed at preparing you to apply to a medical school (or other post-graduate health profession). It means you are taking the classes and gaining the experiences that these schools look for in qualified applicants.
Types of medical practice
Allopathic
The system of medical practice which treats disease by the use of remedies which produce effects different from those produced by the disease under treatment. MDs practice allopathic medicine. In Washington State there is one allopathic medical school - The University of Washington School of Medicine (UWSOM). UWSOM pre-medical course requirements.
Osteopathic
Osteopathic medicine provides all of the benefits of modern medicine including prescription drugs, surgery, and the use of technology to diagnose disease and evaluate injury. It also offers the added benefit of hands-on diagnosis and treatment through a system of therapy known as osteopathic manipulative medicine. Osteopathic medicine emphasizes helping each person achieve a high level of wellness by focusing on health promotion and disease prevention. DO's practice Osteopathic medicine and specialize in all of the areas that allopathic (MD) physicians specialize in. In Washington State there is one osteopathic medical school - The Pacific Northwest University College of Osteopathic Medicine (PNWU). PNWU pre-medical course requirements.
Naturopathic
Naturopathic Medicine is a system of medicine that focuses on prevention and use of nontoxic, natural therapies." These natural therapies refer to, but are not limited to, proper diet and nutrition, exercise, nutritional supplements, herbology, homeopathy, and lifestyle modification and counseling. ND's practice Naturopathic Medicine. in Washington State there is one ND program - Bastyr University. Bastyr University pre-medical course requirements.
Allopathic
The system of medical practice which treats disease by the use of remedies which produce effects different from those produced by the disease under treatment. MDs practice allopathic medicine. In Washington State there is one allopathic medical school - The University of Washington School of Medicine (UWSOM). UWSOM pre-medical course requirements.
Osteopathic
Osteopathic medicine provides all of the benefits of modern medicine including prescription drugs, surgery, and the use of technology to diagnose disease and evaluate injury. It also offers the added benefit of hands-on diagnosis and treatment through a system of therapy known as osteopathic manipulative medicine. Osteopathic medicine emphasizes helping each person achieve a high level of wellness by focusing on health promotion and disease prevention. DO's practice Osteopathic medicine and specialize in all of the areas that allopathic (MD) physicians specialize in. In Washington State there is one osteopathic medical school - The Pacific Northwest University College of Osteopathic Medicine (PNWU). PNWU pre-medical course requirements.
Naturopathic
Naturopathic Medicine is a system of medicine that focuses on prevention and use of nontoxic, natural therapies." These natural therapies refer to, but are not limited to, proper diet and nutrition, exercise, nutritional supplements, herbology, homeopathy, and lifestyle modification and counseling. ND's practice Naturopathic Medicine. in Washington State there is one ND program - Bastyr University. Bastyr University pre-medical course requirements.
______________________
And Bastyr University and the National Institutes of Health disagrees with you.
Bastyr University offers Washington's only program in Naturopathic Medicine. Some Bastyr University research:
http://www.bastyr.edu/research/studies
Breast Cancer Integrative Oncology: Prospective Matched Controlled Outcomes Study
Status: Active
Study area: Oncology
Principal investigator: Leanna J. Standish, ND, PhD, LAc, FABNO; M. Robyn Andersen, PhD
Funded by: Primary funding by: NIH/NCCAM Grant No. 1R01AT005873; Study Expansion funding by: Lotte & John Hecht Foundation
Project period: 8/1/10 12/31/18
Intranasal Glutathione in Parkinson's Disease
Status: Completed
Study area: Neurology
Principal investigator: Laurie Mischley, ND, MPH
Funded by: NIH/NCCAM
Project period: 01/01/10 - 12/31/14
Bastyr/UW Oncomycology Translational Research Center
Status: Active
Study area: Oncology
Principal investigator: Leanna Standish, ND, PhD, LAc, FABNO; Mary L. (Nora) Disis, MD
Co-investigator(s): Lupe Salazar, MD, Hailing Lu, MD, PhD, Erin Sweet, ND
Funded by: NIH/NCCAM/NCI (U19) Partnership with University of Washington
Project period: 09/29/2010 - 08/31/2014
PSK as Neoadjuvant Therapy for Locally Advanced Breast Cancer Principal
Status: Completed
Study area: Oncology
Principal investigator: Hailing Lu (University of Washington)
Co-investigator(s): Cynthia Wenner, PhD
Project period: April 2010 March 2014
Sauna Detoxification Study
Status: Completed
Study area: General Wellness, Other
Principal investigator: Jason Allen, ND, MPH
Funded by: NIH/NCCAM
Project period: 07/01/13-04/30/14
Haptoglobin Phenotype and Smoking: Effects on Iron Levels in Parkinsons Disease
Status: Recruiting
Study area: Neurology
Principal investigator: Paola Costa-Mallen, PhD
Co-investigator(s): Yoshimi Anzai, MD, MPH; Harvey Checkoway, PhD; Shu-Ching Hu, MD
Funded by: NIH/National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke
Project period: 02/01/2013- 01/31/2015
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We Need to Stop Treating Naturopaths Like They’re Medical Doctors [View all]
cleanhippie
Apr 2016
OP
Unfortunately, those that choose naturopaths over medical doctors have rejected reason altogether.
cleanhippie
Apr 2016
#3
I agree std. healthcare messed up. Too much about $ and networkbuilding /removing independnt drs and
lunasun
Apr 2016
#25
A fairly extensive study of homeopathic remedies was recently conducted by—well, I
Gene Debs
Apr 2016
#8
Whole Foods and its imitators like New Seasons sell it in the impulse section.
HuckleB
Apr 2016
#106
Homeopathy isn't a protected term, anyone can label any supplement as "homeopathic" and...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2016
#109
I'm sure you're trying to make a point, but I'm not sure you know what it is.
cleanhippie
Apr 2016
#17
Okay sure, getting ill might not kill ya...but a broken bone or any number of internal
Rex
Apr 2016
#20
1/3 to 1/2 of Europe died of the plague. Today we can treat it with a $4 antibiotic.
LeftyMom
Apr 2016
#33
True but even if you only take the adult life expectancy, things have improved a lot
LeftishBrit
Apr 2016
#118
Jesus fucking Christ, the evidence is right in front of your eyes, visit a graveyard...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2016
#46
My mother almost died as a child of scarletina. That was only 65 years ago.
Starry Messenger
Apr 2016
#133
not to be confused with naturopathic physicians like the one who saved my life
Viva_La_Revolution
Apr 2016
#21
i decided not to count that first doctor, since to be fair i only had a few symptoms back then
Viva_La_Revolution
Apr 2016
#39
Interesting, so they use conventional methods of diagnosis, and then treats with alternative...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2016
#49
that was 10 years ago, a surgeon cured it. my NP diagnosed hashimotos
Viva_La_Revolution
Apr 2016
#61
So, I'm assuming they didn't give you the "conventional" treatment plan for managing your..
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2016
#72
no, she did not prescribe a synthetic T4 and tell me to come back in 6months
Viva_La_Revolution
Apr 2016
#77
Which is also prescribed by regular MDs all the time, though it isn't as preferred as the....
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2016
#108
NDs i looked it up and a link to calm your fears about the money and quality issues
Viva_La_Revolution
Apr 2016
#83
See this just shows how much bullshit they are full off, from the first two sentences:
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2016
#62
Are you not concerned with the length of training to become a Naturopathic Doctor?
passiveporcupine
Apr 2016
#91
proof no one actually reads the links i posted. i guess my doc is best of both worlds
Viva_La_Revolution
Apr 2016
#94
PPI's might be necessary, especially for someone that has a lap-sleeve bypass.
AtheistCrusader
Apr 2016
#31
I think most conventional doctors would recommend diet changes and other methods...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2016
#51
The chiropractors that give babies 'adjustments' for colic should be first against the wall.
AtheistCrusader
Apr 2016
#30
No shit, I really don't understand this argument, there are a lot of remedies that are evidence...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2016
#74
Well you can't find fault with it, so you make a personal attack. We see that. . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Apr 2016
#92
You've had much time & 2 opportunities to actually post something meaningful, but
Bernardo de La Paz
Apr 2016
#103
I've had much time to do things either more pressing or more enjoyable...
Act_of_Reparation
Apr 2016
#129
Lots of good ideas here. Thanks. You're right that binary thinking is very hard for some people
pnwmom
Apr 2016
#114
U.W. Medical Center, one of the top medical schools in the US, disagrees with you.
pnwmom
Apr 2016
#113
No, I didn't use the term. Those words came directly from the University of Washington web site.
pnwmom
Apr 2016
#138
Seriously, where do you come up with this nonsense? ND's are being MURDERED? Seriously?
cleanhippie
Apr 2016
#125
The usual CT sites. Funny thing is that the poster mixed up two different conspiracies.
HuckleB
Apr 2016
#126
Some misinformation in this article (but the parents are still fucking morons)
laundry_queen
Apr 2016
#139