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PatSeg

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64. I think at his core,

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 05:02 PM

Apr 2016

Obama the man is more progressive than Obama the politician, but that is just a hunch. I think he's done what he thought he could do and even when he was being "moderate", he was hindered by the republicans. If he'd had the congress that FDR had, I'm quite sure he would have been much more progressive. Meanwhile, I can only hope that the more progressive side of Obama would have opposed the TPP - that one really bothers me.

If you want a new FDR, you need a new congress! We need to put more of our energy into down ticket races. While Dems put so much focus on presidential elections, the republicans quietly win congressional seats and state/local positions. They aren't always as stupid as they look or they are just maddeningly persistent.

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7 years! [View all] MrScorpio Apr 2016 OP

Great graphic! I'm sick of the idiots who say the two parties are the same! Squinch Apr 2016 #1

Me too! Liberal_in_LA Apr 2016 #93

And also the idiots who jimlup May 2016 #100

Yep. So many idiots, so little time! Squinch May 2016 #113

Same here. Hortensis May 2016 #109

Just a moment, please. I thought Obama was a neocon. A Third Way neoliberal. This doesn't add up. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #2

Me too! JustAnotherGen Apr 2016 #5

No, but the TPP is a neo liberal deal. liberalnarb Apr 2016 #31

Nope. That's your definition. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #35

Especially the ones who live overseas. n/t libdem4life Apr 2016 #71

... but not the ones who live entirely in the artificial reality of their twisted minds. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #73

Strange reply. Have to parse that one a little extra. n/t libdem4life Apr 2016 #76

You're SO sweet! dchill May 2016 #102

A tad over the top, don't you think? Whatevs. n/t libdem4life May 2016 #117

LOL hay rick Apr 2016 #83

How! Our other trade agreements have cost us good jobs (that have been replaced by JDPriestly Apr 2016 #94

I think every seven years democrats forget how shitty La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #48

My line is that Democratic Presidents generally disappoint me slightly whereas GOP ones invariably Warren DeMontague May 2016 #106

Living in a democracy is disappointing La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #115

+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #119

K&R... spanone Apr 2016 #3

Yes he did a great job Andy823 Apr 2016 #4

I don't think anyone on here is saying continuing what Obama has done would be a bad thing. liberalnarb Apr 2016 #36

Couldn't have said it better...! Surya Gayatri May 2016 #107

Yes those 10s of millions of us who never recovered from the crash fasttense May 2016 #111

So is the solution to sit out the presidential election and allow the White House to Squinch May 2016 #114

You left off the 4,000 plus innocent people killed with drone strikes. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #6

Thanks for bringing a balanced perspective. nt MrScorpio Apr 2016 #7

The Goldilocks "liberal" - no Democrat has ever been good enough. yallerdawg Apr 2016 #9

So what are insinuating? That we should only discuss the good things? rhett o rick Apr 2016 #15

You need to Andy823 Apr 2016 #20

The best thing to happen to the Sanders' legacy and "movement" .. yallerdawg Apr 2016 #25

Yep, us anti everything people want results not words. zeemike Apr 2016 #41

I would like to see something between swooners and haters Skittles May 2016 #103

I'd be willing to bet dollars to holes in donuts that within DAYS of a Sanders inauguration ... Hekate Apr 2016 #61

Thankfully, there won't be a Sanders inauguration. baldguy Apr 2016 #96

I doubt Sanders would waste a couple years trying to play nice with repukes Skittles May 2016 #104

Find myself agreeing with you all over the place, Andy! LOLOL! Surya Gayatri May 2016 #108

Bernie does support The Obama Drone Policy, rick. liberalnarb Apr 2016 #38

Liberalnarb. sheshe2 Apr 2016 #86

well in that perspective hfojvt Apr 2016 #40

Japanese internment? NT 1939 Apr 2016 #23

ouch.. yuiyoshida Apr 2016 #37

FDR and the sainted Earl Warren NT 1939 Apr 2016 #43

Correct and couple of addtional things Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #13

Sanders supports the drone war JI7 Apr 2016 #47

you have proof of this? shanti Apr 2016 #56

Several links for your delectation Hekate Apr 2016 #63

Thanks for the links Hekate! sheshe2 Apr 2016 #87

"All of that and more" -- Bernie Sanders, when asked by Chuck Todd if he would use drones betsuni Apr 2016 #51

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #84

The number I've quoted has come under question. I quoted the number that rhett o rick May 2016 #101

Its certainly a good graphic, but I also like to imagine the bread lines that were avoided BootinUp Apr 2016 #8

Yes, let's inject a little reality in this thread. passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #27

quick takes on the issues you raise BootinUp Apr 2016 #39

The problem with not enough support is who it comes from passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #45

Yes, actually Obama did start the revolution. sheshe2 Apr 2016 #88

The revolution started before Obama. I think the real revolution passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #89

Obama did far more that he is given credit for. sheshe2 Apr 2016 #90

I know Obama has accomplished a lot passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #91

most of the income is NOT going to the top hfojvt Apr 2016 #44

Sorry, I should have said profit, not income. n/t passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #46

you did say profit hfojvt Apr 2016 #50

Well we aren't talking normal bennefits here passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #53

any capital gains they get from that, and dividends hfojvt Apr 2016 #57

capital gains are taxed at a much lower rate than income n/t passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #60

and so are dividends hfojvt Apr 2016 #68

Sarcastic comment about DU followed by emoji. Rex Apr 2016 #10

The Uninsured rate under Bush is deceptive rurallib Apr 2016 #11

k & r! lovemydog Apr 2016 #19

+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #120

He made a promise to the gay community that he would do right by us Politicub Apr 2016 #12

I was skeptical about this when Obama picked warren La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #49

I had forgotten about that name. Politicub Apr 2016 #52

Yup, as I said I was totally wrong to be skeptical La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #54

How about an honest assessment, and not one that would make a fawn blush . . FairWinds Apr 2016 #14

Don't go on ... JoePhilly Apr 2016 #77

Just imagine what he could have done PatSeg Apr 2016 #16

It would also help if he were a progressive. passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #28

I think at his core, PatSeg Apr 2016 #64

the most important thing that needs to be done passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #65

Yes PatSeg Apr 2016 #75

FDR is one of my heroes, but FDR was not God.The rewrite of history on FDR could get to be as bad... Hekate Apr 2016 #66

That was very well said PatSeg Apr 2016 #74

Why is congress like that though?? angrychair Apr 2016 #85

Oh definitely PatSeg Apr 2016 #97

It's been an excellent two terms for President Barack Obama..... George II Apr 2016 #17

"And to think that the RWNJs were afraid that Obama was going to destroy America!" Plucketeer Apr 2016 #18

Don't forget about some of the Andy823 Apr 2016 #21

Well - truth be told Plucketeer Apr 2016 #32

President Obama has more than lived up to my expectations.. mountain grammy Apr 2016 #22

+1 Hekate Apr 2016 #69

Well said, mg... Surya Gayatri May 2016 #110

+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #121

Spectacular! shireen Apr 2016 #24

Yes, but what has he ACCOMPLISHED? (sarcasm) NT PBass Apr 2016 #26

I am proud and happy that this man in our President Gothmog Apr 2016 #29

Kick. (n/t) Iggo Apr 2016 #30

The fact is Obama saved America. SunSeeker Apr 2016 #33

+ 1 ... my neice too. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #79

K&R ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #34

Great thread. Really sums it up. forest444 Apr 2016 #42

K&R! betsuni Apr 2016 #55

Barack Obama was the right President at the right time. jillan Apr 2016 #58

great jlarson Apr 2016 #59

Nice to see you. That's a great graphic. Hekate Apr 2016 #62

Best president of my lifetime...it's not even a close question alcibiades_mystery Apr 2016 #67

Unemloyment numbers are total BS SusanLarson Apr 2016 #70

It has gotten better in many ways PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #72

Obama will end up in the top tier of all Presidents. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #78

I swear Soxfan58 Apr 2016 #80

I still think Obama is lovely! Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2016 #81

Me too, Rosa!! ailsagirl Apr 2016 #82

The fool, larry elder, says its weakest recovery ever. Cant stand to see a black man succeed Liberal_in_LA Apr 2016 #92

And there are those who would like to erase it all & start from scratch. baldguy Apr 2016 #95

Could have been a lot worse. JEB Apr 2016 #98

We've certainly come a long way over those years GOPblows431 May 2016 #99

"Destroy America"? Fuck, I only wish I'd had some liquid cash to put in the stock market early 2009. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #105

We're supposed to believe these numbers mean anything to people. Madmiddle May 2016 #112

Great graphic underpants May 2016 #116

Is there still time to repeal the 22nd Amendment? Califonz May 2016 #118