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Agnosticsherbet

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113. Your answer is bullshit. Only funds raised by Congress for that purpose could be granted.

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 05:04 PM

Apr 2016

The Federal defense budget can not be used in elections.

By law, only funds raised and passed by Congress could be applied to that purpose. Then, of course, you would have to convince Republicans controlling the House to initiate a funding bill for the purpose of paying for the operations of State and county election offices. An identical bill would have to be passed by the Senate. If there are differences, they would have to go to a committee and then returned to the House and Senate for an up or down vote. Then, of course, the President would have to sign it.

This is very basic information on how our government works. I hope this basic information is sufficient to enlighten you on how our government budgeting system works.

Money from the Defense Budget can not be applied to any other purpose without the exclusive approval of Congress. They will not do that.

Republican's in Congress are not going to do such a thing, ever. I suspect that if we did get control of both houses of congress, and pass such a bill, Republican controlled states would take the matter to court as an unconstitutional interference in their Constitutional powers.

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Why are we seeing polling places closed as "cost saving measures"? If we can't afford ... [View all] Scuba Apr 2016 OP

Precisely Sherman A1 Apr 2016 #1

I'm wondering this myself astrophuss42 Apr 2016 #2

Stupid People. The defense budget defends and supports the 1%. We are incidental. Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #3

Expense of polling venues jehop61 Apr 2016 #4

I wouldn't consider Rhode Island a red state Revanchist Apr 2016 #5

Counties have defense budgets? 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #6

Please explain why fed dollars can't be used to help counties staff their polling places? Scuba Apr 2016 #8

Federalism. But that said, the congress can make it so ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #9

Gosh, that means ... Scuba Apr 2016 #10

Yeah ... And, perhaps, more civics classes. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #16

Please explain your "civics classes" comment. Federal grants to counties are commonplace. Scuba Apr 2016 #17

So ... No revolution? 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #18

DAMNIT!!! No revolution? Glassunion Apr 2016 #51

Thank you! I'm glad you pointed this out. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #21

DU can be so educational! 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #24

While conveniently overlooking the common concept of federal grants to counties. Scuba Apr 2016 #34

There are federal grants to support the operations of county level voting? 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #36

Why not? There're federal grants to counties for all kinds of other things. Scuba Apr 2016 #38

Again ... Federalism. And a dire need for civics to be taught. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #56

So you got nothing. Scuba Apr 2016 #60

Apparently, nothing that will get through. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #61

You've offered zero rationale as to why polling places are closing. Scuba Apr 2016 #63

I didn't know that a rationale was being requested ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #64

Kind of looks that way at times... Scootaloo Apr 2016 #26

You noticed that too, eh? Scuba Apr 2016 #40

But way back the feds passed a clean water act. It paid for sanitary sewer systems, new and LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #41

WTF is that? Ghost Dog Apr 2016 #42

That is the St. Louis police department Scootaloo Apr 2016 #47

Jesus, Mary and Joseph (as Irish friends might exclaim). Ghost Dog Apr 2016 #49

I said this same thing the other day! Good one!!! Dustlawyer Apr 2016 #7

There is no unitary government. Igel Apr 2016 #11

I'm not sure what your point is, if you have one, but federal grants to counties are commonplace. Scuba Apr 2016 #14

Huge +1! Enthusiast Apr 2016 #67

so the defense budget is needless if the state/local government Press Virginia Apr 2016 #79

Please substantiate your claim of "assets are allocated based on prior years." That's not ... Scuba Apr 2016 #83

Any time you hear that argument... Chan790 Apr 2016 #12

Bingo! Scuba Apr 2016 #13

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Never heard about that before d_legendary1 Apr 2016 #39

Colorado has vote by mail SomethingFishy Apr 2016 #44

So does Oregon. Ill get my ballot probably today. Its my first primary ever:) litlbilly Apr 2016 #99

Profit is the only thing that matters awoke_in_2003 Apr 2016 #15

Once we truly face that it's not US, we can organize our resources. My old favorite, tax strike, ancianita Apr 2016 #19

That may be on the list - plans are being made. jwirr Apr 2016 #23

Happy to hear it. Hope you'll keep us posted. ancianita Apr 2016 #25

Nothing to post just yet but I can guarantee that there is jwirr Apr 2016 #27

I've hung out with many and have never heard a mumbling word about it. I'll take your ancianita Apr 2016 #31

I'm an old hippie myself and what I was talking about is jwirr Apr 2016 #58

A tax strike is ineffective. Have you ever heard the words, "tax liens." JDPriestly Apr 2016 #32

Sure. But they can't jail us all. There are a lot of boomers ready to go out over a big move, ancianita Apr 2016 #46

I tried to locate "Insider in the White House" on amazon . . . Petrushka Apr 2016 #97

How would one work (strike)? People pay their tax through payroll deduction, by law isn't it? Hestia Apr 2016 #100

You don't have to; that's voluntary. You can keep all your money, make the IRS wait for 364 days. ancianita Apr 2016 #105

Shhh! Our tax breaks at work. n/t aggiesal Apr 2016 #20

100% correct. jwirr Apr 2016 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author mrr303am Apr 2016 #28

I think 90% of Dems and Independents agree on this, the Repubs are brainwashed though Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #35

Not just the MIC. The Navy spends most of its efforts protecting oil shipments and other ... Scuba Apr 2016 #37

It's more of a procurement budget dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #81

K&R. Excellent post! JDPriestly Apr 2016 #30

PRIORITIES, PEOPLE! Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #33

At least you still have polling places! scscholar Apr 2016 #43

Please provide some evidence of your "full of fraud" claim. Vote by mail is very popular .. Scuba Apr 2016 #45

Last I checked, King County (Seattle), threw away 7% of the votes... scscholar Apr 2016 #48

The ability to check on one's own vote is hardly evidence of voter or election fraud. In fact ... Scuba Apr 2016 #52

WTF, I gave you the link so you could check yourself scscholar Apr 2016 #54

I don't live in Washington, so I can hardly check my own vote. Even if I could, and it was gone ... Scuba Apr 2016 #55

Here's one for you to try: scscholar Apr 2016 #57

Anecdote, not evidence. Admit it, you got nothing. Scuba Apr 2016 #59

Interesting. Who scrutinises the count, and on what grounds are ballots rejected? Are these stated? Ghost Dog Apr 2016 #53

BS former9thward Apr 2016 #74

Check with Oregon; they seem to love it. Scuba Apr 2016 #86

I don't need to check with OR. former9thward Apr 2016 #109

All the money rich people avoid paying in taxes? Johonny Apr 2016 #50

Eliminate war, the playtoy of the uber-rich! Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #62

K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #65

Well said! SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #66

Excellent point. nt retrowire Apr 2016 #68

Excellent question! Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #69

it's just the fucking republicans - elect dems certainot Apr 2016 #70

Hillary Leaned From Her Buddies Rove and Bush Family billhicks76 Apr 2016 #71

If we can't afford to have polling places for voting how the hell can we call ourselves Photographer Apr 2016 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author FreedomRain Apr 2016 #73

AZ will not lose anything. former9thward Apr 2016 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author FreedomRain Apr 2016 #77

Yes, everybody. former9thward Apr 2016 #108

Republican govs in red states underthematrix Apr 2016 #76

Mostly, yes, but not germaine to my OP. Scuba Apr 2016 #84

Sorry, but I've lived the past 30 years in Oregon so could someone tell me . . . DrBulldog Apr 2016 #78

Obviously it's defending the right for the rich to become richer. What Else? Kablooie Apr 2016 #80

We are seeing this because Democrats stayed home in the midterms and didn't fight Squinch Apr 2016 #82

Not exactly ... Scuba Apr 2016 #85

I guess you would think of that as proof. Squinch Apr 2016 #87

Are you suggesting the Dems do fight for working class as hard as Reps for owners? Scuba Apr 2016 #88

If we never give them a majority, how do you propose they do that? Squinch Apr 2016 #89

Bush got every thing he wanted with no super-majority. Dems didn't fight him at all. Further ... Scuba Apr 2016 #96

Our side got a historic health plan through which could never before be passed and Squinch Apr 2016 #107

Please provide evidence of your claim that I "refuse to work within the structure ..." Scuba Apr 2016 #110

The 1% still needs an infrastructure to serve them... Helen Borg Apr 2016 #90

The oligarchy. cer7711 Apr 2016 #91

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #92

The 1% like Hillary don't want working class to have the ability to look after whereisjustice Apr 2016 #93

Yet many here support a neocon who will spend aggressively on conflucts abroad but won't change our Vote2016 Apr 2016 #94

k/r marmar Apr 2016 #95

the defense budget is defending profits for the 1% tk2kewl Apr 2016 #98

You said a mouthful. Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #101

Elections are controlled and funded by the individual states. The National Defense Budget can not be Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #102

Feds give grants to states and counties all the time. Your post is bullshit. Scuba Apr 2016 #111

Your answer is bullshit. Only funds raised by Congress for that purpose could be granted. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #113

There is nothing to keep Congrpess from providing funding for counties to staff polling places. Scuba Apr 2016 #114

It is against that law to use the Defense Budget, as I said in my primer on our system. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #115

No, I did not call for using the defense budget. I asked what our defense budget was ... Scuba Apr 2016 #117

It wasn't a diversion. The Defense budget has nothing to do with elections, and shouldn't. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #118

So why did you bring that up? I sure didn't. Scuba May 2016 #119

It's what conservatives do. They did that here in Indiana, along with closing down B Calm Apr 2016 #103

Saving the cost of having to dump Turbineguy Apr 2016 #104

Its mission is not to defend, it's to make $. We are pawns. onecaliberal Apr 2016 #106

Scuba Scuba Scuba malaise Apr 2016 #112

The. One. Per. Cent. WinkyDink Apr 2016 #116