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In reply to the discussion: Bilderberg 2012 - Conspiracy theorists please please please just GO AWAY [View all]woo me with science
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I recommended your OP because you nailed a pet peeve of mine: the dismissal of legitimate concerns about the Bilderbergers because of the persistence of crazy conspiracy theories.
But I take issue with where you are drawing the line at "nutty" in this subthread. There's a lot of nutty out there, for sure. There are tales of reptilian Illuminati bloodlines from outer space, and Illuminati conspiracies to torture small children in order to create mind control sex robots for the government, and astrology and New Age-based conspiracies. That is the far nutty end of the scale.
But you don't have to leap to visions of an evil overlord wearing a black cape and stroking a cat to raise concerns about the potential for global power, and the development of authoritarian governmental structures to protect that global power.
We are watching many different types of moves toward global power by the financial elite right now; just read the newspaper. Look at what is happening in Europe to pressure nations to cede their independence as a solution to debt. Look at the movement of corporations into new nations, the opening of trade, and the changes in wages and working conditions. Look at the global move toward austerity for the masses, and the emergence of surveillance states and crackdowns on those who oppose these moves, both overseas and on our own continent.
This is not 100 years ago when the thought of gaining worldwide power was utterly the stuff of science fiction. Corporations now *can* have worldwide scope and global financial, if not yet political, power. But they are buying governments now, and we are seeing a melding of financial and political power that should make us all very nervous. We are seeing bids to unify Europe under the thumb of the bankers there. Actually, there have already been some trial balloon proposals for unifying the Americas. And the persistent wars we are seeing bankrupt governments, devastate regions, and open new entire areas of the globe to corporate rebuilding, restructuring, and dominance.
If I misinterpreted what you were trying to say here, I apologize. But I think the language you used in this subthread could be used to do exactly what you decry in your excellent OP: dismiss people who have very legitimate concerns about where the continued, steady consolidation of power by this elite group may ultimately lead.