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In reply to the discussion: Bilderberg 2012 - Conspiracy theorists please please please just GO AWAY [View all]Lars77
(3,032 posts)I think i should have spent more time outlining why i feel the Bilderbergers are problematic anyways, but in a way i also feel like it's really obvious.
I think there are two types of people in the world. Those who fear too much government power, and those who fear too much corporate power. To believe that a state can curb both of these powers and still function is utopian in my opinion, because providing services and doing functions is power and someone has to do it. This is why you have turf wars between government agencies. Whoever gets to do something gains more power, influence, competence and money to spend. And that's where people like Ron Paul go wrong, they think government power is evil and corporate power is good.
I fear corporate power more. Because as long as government agencies are doing things, they can at least be held somewhat restrained and accountable in a democratic society, because they are forced to take into consideration what people think.
Corporations were supposed to have to do that as well, or they would be punished by consumers. But since they can literally get away with mass murder, armed with an army of PR operatives and lawyers, it is obvious that they do not need to take any humane considerations anymore.
With regards to the Bilderbergers, i regard them as "the high priests of globalization". I genuinely believe that they were very influential in the establishment of the French-German steel union that became the EU. It's goal was to make war between France and Germany impossible due to interdependentness. However as its members grew more and more powerful, so did their hunger for more power. But their basic idea has been the same. Interconnect the world and everyone will prosper. This is the grand idea of Globalization. However, when coupled with predatory capitalism where poor countries are forced to privatize their utilities and natural resources in order to get loans for example, it's a monster. And i think this is what they are doing, they are carving up the world more amongst themselves. Globalization has become a new and cheaper form of imperialism where the third world can now be plundered without using warships and establishing colonies.
So why would they want to establish some kind of huge world government? I would argue that it's even against the core value of the Bilderbergers themselves. I see them more as some kind of league of the 1% of capitalist democracies spreading economic liberalism, thinking that they are the driving force behind the infinitely expanding pie that we all are supposed to get a piece of. But the beauty of it is that even if it doesn't work, its ok for them, because they are making shitloads of money anyways.
There is no occultism or devil worshiping or fascism or a hankering for some global totalitarian state. The real deal is way more scary.