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Aristus

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11. The difference in your case is the difference between protocol of care and standard of care.

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Mon May 2, 2016, 11:31 AM

May 2016

Your physical therapist seemed to be happy doing the minimum to get by. I have to follow up with a lot of patients who have primary care providers who do the same thing. Things like throwing antibiotics at every infection that walks in the door, even though many of those infections are likely to be viral, not bacterial. Providers who throw opioid meds at every pain complaint, instead of trying to solve the underlying cause of the pain.

The difference here is that chiropractic care isn't always (or in my view, it is rarely) appropriate for complaints of back pain. But a lot of providers think: "Hmm Back pain. I can get this patient out of here with a quick chiropractic referral."

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And people wonder why I am dead-set against Chiropractic? [View all] Archae May 2016 OP

Veterinary Boards have gone after them for doing so on small dogs & cats as well, not to mention hlthe2b May 2016 #1

I have patients with back pain coming in all the time wanting a referral to a chiropractor. Aristus May 2016 #2

The argument against chiropractic is that D D Palmer was wrong! longship May 2016 #5

I have used chiroprators and physical therapists 1939 May 2016 #7

The difference in your case is the difference between protocol of care and standard of care. Aristus May 2016 #11

You had a poor PT. HuckleB May 2016 #15

I also had an unethical doctor 1939 May 2016 #38

Uh, unless they do something a PT would do, chiropractic is off the table. HuckleB May 2016 #39

And I have never seen a chiropractor who didn't sell supplements. Archae May 2016 #51

Or band-AIDS sold to keep "pressure points." HuckleB May 2016 #54

I prefer my chiropractor to... Xolodno May 2016 #3

My brother-in-law would love to talk to you, about the "carpal tunnel rage." Archae May 2016 #9

Probably was legit. Xolodno May 2016 #12

Doc told me i had "carpal tunnel" except i had numbness in the last two fingers 1939 May 2016 #40

Post removed Post removed May 2016 #4

Do you have a point? Archae May 2016 #6

Only the one that is obvious. ronnie624 May 2016 #10

Offense accepted. Archae May 2016 #13

Die-hard chiropractor fans CountAllVotes May 2016 #8

Twenty Things Most Chiropractors Won’t Tell You HuckleB May 2016 #14

No doubt there are unscrupulous chiropractors, just as there are unscrupulous MD's. Scuba May 2016 #16

Just because some medical centers offer something, doesn't make it right for them to do so. HuckleB May 2016 #17

And just because one chiropractor is a quack doesn't mean all are. Scuba May 2016 #18

Do you understand the basis for the whole "profession?" HuckleB May 2016 #20

Let's see, who should I trust? An anonymous internet poster or ... Scuba May 2016 #21

You can go with whatever you want to go. HuckleB May 2016 #22

I spent more than 30 years as a hospital administrator. I know a little about the topic. Scuba May 2016 #23

It doesn't look like it to me. HuckleB May 2016 #24

Blind faith? Nope. Perhaps you should read the links you provided ... Scuba May 2016 #27

Again, when they do what a PT does, as was already noted HuckleB May 2016 #33

Talk about blind! Scuba May 2016 #35

ROFLMAO!!! HuckleB May 2016 #36

It's a lot like arguing with an anti-vaxxer. Xolodno May 2016 #26

They either don't read, or don't understand, the links they post .... Scuba May 2016 #28

Again, you are completely misrepresenting what I've posted, and what you've posted. HuckleB May 2016 #34

The irony is rather rich with this. HuckleB May 2016 #32

I think there needs to be some sort of distinction made here. NuclearDem May 2016 #30

Unfortunately, the quack parts of alt med are getting play in all too many places. HuckleB May 2016 #37

Except that most PTs I have seen are incompetent 1939 May 2016 #42

I don't buy it. HuckleB May 2016 #43

In the tiny town where I was born, a chiropractor set up practice Cirque du So-What May 2016 #19

Here's another good reason Orrex May 2016 #25

Yep. progressoid May 2016 #31

I ended up replying in the other thread gollygee May 2016 #29

If an MD had a malpractice case would that make you dead-set against all MD's? pnwmom May 2016 #41

Sciatica usually only improves on its own, over time. HuckleB May 2016 #44

I also saw an Osteopath instantly fix one of my children, whose spine came out pnwmom May 2016 #47

And more anecdotes. HuckleB May 2016 #48

I trusted my doctor, who partnered with the osteopath, and witnessed the results pnwmom May 2016 #49

Thanks for the continued anecdote and the cherry picked link. HuckleB May 2016 #53

The World Health Organization. A "cherry picked link." pnwmom May 2016 #56

So you believe everything the WHO says. HuckleB May 2016 #57

Unlike you, I avoid broad, sweeping, black and white statements. pnwmom May 2016 #58

Hogwash. HuckleB May 2016 #62

SCIENCE!!! U4ikLefty May 2016 #67

Derp. HuckleB May 2016 #70

That is way too simplistic. There are multiple reasons and areas of the sciatic nerve that can uppityperson May 2016 #76

It is, and it isn't. HuckleB May 2016 #77

Huh, promoting untrained chiropracty? Weird. uppityperson May 2016 #78

Yeah, that's not the point. HuckleB May 2016 #79

No, I don't wonder that at all. kentauros May 2016 #45

So you think scams are cool? HuckleB May 2016 #46

septic Skittles May 2016 #55

Go deeper kentauros May 2016 #60

septic as a noun? Skittles May 2016 #61

It's a play on words. kentauros May 2016 #64

ahhhhhhhh Skittles May 2016 #66

No, you're not. kentauros May 2016 #68

I spent over forty years as a bricklayer. panader0 May 2016 #50

What the fuck are subluxations? longship May 2016 #52

There are sport horses in my barn who get definitive relief from the veterinary chiropractic work. riderinthestorm May 2016 #59

Yes, they can. HuckleB May 2016 #63

They either get relief or not. The placebo effect is moot. riderinthestorm May 2016 #65

Not true. HuckleB May 2016 #69

David Ramey is not credible. The AVMA has approved chiro, acupuncture and PT as effective riderinthestorm May 2016 #71

Quack treatments invade many places, but it doesn't make them worthy. HuckleB May 2016 #72

More... HuckleB May 2016 #74

The Crack Heard Round the World HuckleB May 2016 #73

Post #4, x100. Why many here refuse to engage you any longer. closeupready May 2016 #75