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RiverNoord

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37. The word 'enemy' has some very strong connotations.
Mon May 2, 2016, 10:16 PM
May 2016

Its primary proper use is to identify armed opposition during a military conflict. It is also sometimes used to describe internal pressures experienced by a person that the person regards as something approximating a mortal foe. Intense hatred is sometimes described as an enemy by the person experiencing it.

'Opponent' is a general-purpose description used to identify opposing parties in much lower-intensity conflicts, such as sports, games, and political contests. Generally, opponents are choosing to take part in an activity that requires opposition for it to even exist. It's really hard, for example, to play a game of baseball with only one team. It's also very difficult to hold an election with only one person to vote for.

If we are actually divided up into friend and foe, enemy and friendly, over an election, then the country should be nearing open civil war.

I don't quite think that's the case.

Politics isn't that simple. Government isn't that simple. And every person who regards political opponents as 'enemies' (other than, again, during open civil war) is not only taking the competitive aspect of the political process much too seriously, she/he is also dehumanizing large numbers fellow citizens, much like the implementation of wartime propaganda.

Now, I'll admit that Donald Trump is already at a point where even the slightest dehumanization could result in him becoming a different species. But he isn't literally leading an army to seize control of the White House by force.

I would find a Donald Trump presidency to be bizarre and disturbing, and I'd probably make a habit of sending a letter of apology every day to a different country.

But if Donald Trump is 'the enemy,' then so is everyone who would vote for him. And yet, all we're actually doing is holding organized elections to fill government office vacancies.

Just a little something to chew over, I hope.

Not going to vote? [View all] kpete May 2016 OP
I'm not going to vote for Hillary. KPN May 2016 #1
Me neither. Gene Debs May 2016 #20
Likewise SusanLarson May 2016 #50
#BernieOrBust greymouse May 2016 #53
Agree Katashi_itto May 2016 #63
I am a sanders supporter awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #65
Why?! Bernie would have beat him! KPN May 2016 #66
Why STFU? We've been warning people for a long time now that her candidacy is a disaster. DisgustipatedinCA May 2016 #71
ahhhh itcfish May 2016 #84
Many said the true democrats will have her back Duckhunter935 May 2016 #86
You can call me names--I know it's all the rage right now DisgustipatedinCA May 2016 #91
A clear conscience. KPN May 2016 #92
Me either.nt clarice May 2016 #89
That is just chilling Peacetrain May 2016 #2
The word 'enemy' has some very strong connotations. RiverNoord May 2016 #37
I dunno ... I got a pretty good view of it already. KPN May 2016 #62
I remember 2000, all too well, and this is much scarier. HuckleB May 2016 #3
Yep, not going to vote for him Duckhunter935 May 2016 #4
I'm with you MissDeeds May 2016 #8
Writing in Bernie and voting down ticket Democratic. Won't matter for my state either. SammyWinstonJack May 2016 #45
we can't write in here Duckhunter935 May 2016 #46
Either way.....leads to a clear conscious. SammyWinstonJack May 2016 #56
Yep, a good thing Duckhunter935 May 2016 #58
Ditto! KPN May 2016 #64
It's funny how people get blinded by their hate AgadorSparticus May 2016 #5
it's going to be millions of indys, not progressives: Clinton's the warmonger, Trump an isolationist MisterP May 2016 #7
It won't take much to get trump folks to froth at the mouth for war. AgadorSparticus May 2016 #9
and people who think Clinton's a dove? MisterP May 2016 #12
So, my point is, if they want to go to war, they are going to go to war. AgadorSparticus May 2016 #14
maybe MisterP May 2016 #18
Most likely. I highly doubt she would ever go back on prochoice. That would be political suicide. AgadorSparticus May 2016 #30
you'd think that making sure the cartels are installed in Honduras would be political suicide too MisterP May 2016 #31
But that's over there. Out of sight, out of mind. Issues of prochoice brings strong emotions. AgadorSparticus May 2016 #38
I don't hate her. Just find 840high May 2016 #34
Good on you for not hating. I see a lot of haters on this board. AgadorSparticus May 2016 #43
You really don't get it. RiverNoord May 2016 #44
There is corruption on both sides of the aisle. And she may very well be a symptom AgadorSparticus May 2016 #69
I like your proposed compromise :-) RiverNoord May 2016 #70
Clinton needs more progressive virtue than "I'm not Trump!" Scootaloo May 2016 #60
this ridiculous guiltmongering doesn't work on 5yos, let alone voters MisterP May 2016 #6
I'm not shedding tears for Gaddafi. Are you? Hekate May 2016 #16
No, I'm not shedding tears for him, either Jack Rabbit May 2016 #23
What a vulgar thing to say. HeartoftheMidwest May 2016 #26
How about the millions of Libyans who had their lives destroyed by Hillary? greymouse May 2016 #54
Sad that you believe everything the MSM tells you... MattSh May 2016 #90
I always vote. TM99 May 2016 #10
me too kpete May 2016 #13
Voting Viking112 May 2016 #11
Hello bigwillq May 2016 #22
WHO keeps the same hair-do for decades? pansypoo53219 May 2016 #15
I'll vote for frogmarch May 2016 #17
I agree TNNurse May 2016 #24
in my mind they voted for him. AlbertCat May 2016 #32
Two things I won't do: Gene Debs May 2016 #19
I always vote. bigwillq May 2016 #21
+1 n/t tom_kelly May 2016 #27
I'm voting for Bernie, he's my kinda Dem. Hillary isn't. SammyWinstonJack May 2016 #49
+1 here too Victor_c3 May 2016 #72
I won't vote for Trump and I won't vote for LibDemAlways May 2016 #25
I have a primary next month. SheilaT May 2016 #28
You were told. Jester Messiah May 2016 #29
We came, we saw, he died. 840high May 2016 #33
Great Trump meme Gothmog May 2016 #35
I'm going to vote... not for Hillary, but I will vote. basselope May 2016 #36
Rarely do progressives have a good choice... Thespian2 May 2016 #39
hard to tell what site i'm on these days.... spanone May 2016 #40
Hope he's better at it than $Hillary, for God's sake. Me? I'll be voting for Bernie Sanders... AzDar May 2016 #41
+1 nt silvershadow May 2016 #42
Hillary laughing at the idea of bombing Iran Victor_c3 May 2016 #73
Not voting for a neocon. Ed Suspicious May 2016 #47
If you Democrats want me to vote for your candidate for President, Maedhros May 2016 #48
I'll admit Bangbangdem May 2016 #51
Hillary Clinton Lying For 14 Minutes Straight. RATM435 May 2016 #52
I'm gladly voting this November. chwaliszewski May 2016 #55
I will be voting, have said I would be voting for the DNC nominee, that has not changed. Thinkingabout May 2016 #57
i'm going with Bernie that joelz May 2016 #59
Its not over yet people!!! I voted for Bernie with the intention he would either become the nominee Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2016 #61
Hmmm... who was it that voted for Iraq War? Ino May 2016 #67
I think the same person also took more than a decade to realize it was a mistake Victor_c3 May 2016 #74
I am voting Pastiche423 May 2016 #68
I'll never fault a Democrat for voting their convictions or refusing to vote based on convictions. LanternWaste May 2016 #75
I never said I wasn't voting........................................................................ bkkyosemite May 2016 #76
Bombshell Poll: Nearly 20% Of Republicans Will Vote For Hillary Clinton If Trump Wins justiceischeap May 2016 #77
That will change Duckhunter935 May 2016 #82
Read through the Bernie-ites replies to this tonyt53 May 2016 #78
Nothings free Duckhunter935 May 2016 #83
Project much? You can't even get how the Tution or Healthcare would be paid. Katashi_itto May 2016 #87
Not only that GulfCoast66 May 2016 #88
Iraq, Syria, Libya... These weren't advanced by Trump. These are Hillary's NightWatcher May 2016 #79
Two words OldHippieChick May 2016 #80
Take the Senate Duckhunter935 May 2016 #85
Two words. Supreme Court. Just today Bad Hair said he wasn't sure if he would OregonBlue May 2016 #81
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