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AgadorSparticus

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43. Good on you for not hating. I see a lot of haters on this board.

Mon May 2, 2016, 10:30 PM

May 2016

I can sympathize with you to some degree. I make no claim that Hillary is a saint. I see a very astute politician that has learned to be adept in what she does with all the hate and opposition that has always swirled around her.

I don't think she is perfect and I certainly don't think she is evil. She stands politically closer to what I believe than anyone on the right. Is it exactly what I believe? Hell no. But that is our system. I hope and pray for changes from the bottom up. I don't think the revolution is going away. We have work to do on a local and state leve and I think it coming.

But to demonize the best candidate we've got for the job at this point in time, is counterproductive to progressive change. I see some very foolhardy decisions based on emotions. Not surprising. People make terrible decisions when they are driven by anger or fear.

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A clear conscience. KPN May 2016 #92

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I remember 2000, all too well, and this is much scarier. HuckleB May 2016 #3

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we can't write in here Duckhunter935 May 2016 #46

Either way.....leads to a clear conscious. SammyWinstonJack May 2016 #56

Yep, a good thing Duckhunter935 May 2016 #58

Ditto! KPN May 2016 #64

It's funny how people get blinded by their hate AgadorSparticus May 2016 #5

it's going to be millions of indys, not progressives: Clinton's the warmonger, Trump an isolationist MisterP May 2016 #7

It won't take much to get trump folks to froth at the mouth for war. AgadorSparticus May 2016 #9

and people who think Clinton's a dove? MisterP May 2016 #12

So, my point is, if they want to go to war, they are going to go to war. AgadorSparticus May 2016 #14

maybe MisterP May 2016 #18

Most likely. I highly doubt she would ever go back on prochoice. That would be political suicide. AgadorSparticus May 2016 #30

you'd think that making sure the cartels are installed in Honduras would be political suicide too MisterP May 2016 #31

But that's over there. Out of sight, out of mind. Issues of prochoice brings strong emotions. AgadorSparticus May 2016 #38

I don't hate her. Just find 840high May 2016 #34

Good on you for not hating. I see a lot of haters on this board. AgadorSparticus May 2016 #43

You really don't get it. RiverNoord May 2016 #44

There is corruption on both sides of the aisle. And she may very well be a symptom AgadorSparticus May 2016 #69

I like your proposed compromise :-) RiverNoord May 2016 #70

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