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56. This is what comes from scientific illiteracy combined with paranoia and an invisible threat

Tue May 3, 2016, 04:07 PM

May 2016

I'm not talking about Octafish in this case... just otherwise-normal people who have irrational fears about things that they can't see and don't really understand.

My favorite was all of the Japanese who suddenly started interpreting normal bloody noses as radiation poisoning (even looong after 3/11) - but yes, "metalic taste must have been radiation!" is would be right up there for entertainment factor - if it weren't for the fact that real people are suffering because of the ignorance.

It doesn't do any good to explain how much of a substance has to be in your mouth before you can taste it - or compare that to how much would be there at a given level of activity... their minds have already fled reality.

The best we can do is combat the FUD.

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51 Sailors from USS Ronald Reagan Suffering Thyroid Cancer, Leukemia, Brain Tumors [View all] lovuian May 2016 OP

damnit! damnit! damnit!!! yourpaljoey May 2016 #1

A nuke plant self-destructs and leaks. ChairmanAgnostic May 2016 #4

I think I need a drink yourpaljoey May 2016 #5

this could be all of us unless we figure out much better ways to generate electricity soon. Baobab May 2016 #13

+1 Person 2713 May 2016 #19

I live in New Mexico, home of the most dangerous nuclear waste in the USA Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #57

Plutonium from Japan to be disposed of underground in New Mexico womanofthehills May 2016 #71

This is an oft-repeated tale with no basis in reality FBaggins May 2016 #58

But they likely would run out of oil *long before external power was restored* Baobab May 2016 #69

Why do you image that matters? FBaggins May 2016 #76

FUBAR!!!! cynzke May 2016 #25

Can't happen: the atom is our friend and has a perfect safety record. ;-) leveymg May 2016 #30

The kind folks at General Electric told me so! villager May 2016 #53

I would have to believe that any Nuke Powered ship... bvar22 May 2016 #49

And you would be correct FBaggins May 2016 #50

Water has an extremely low neutron activation potential. Act_of_Reparation May 2016 #83

A lot of the Nineleven(TM) first responders went the same way KamaAina May 2016 #2

From radiation? How could that have happened? JDPriestly May 2016 #64

From cancer KamaAina May 2016 #65

I have wondered about the World Trade Center and what materials they used to build it. JDPriestly May 2016 #68

Your lungs are meant to breathe air. Act_of_Reparation May 2016 #84

although the Reagan is a nuke carrier it does not say that it was a result of the ship itself Demonaut May 2016 #3

Wasn't it the first ship to Japan ghostsinthemachine May 2016 #6

Exactly. It truly had nothing to do with the nuke vessel's own systems, but truedelphi May 2016 #9

1 Billion dollar lawsuit lovuian May 2016 #7

dear dawg, i hope they win. my niece's hubs was on that ship. mopinko May 2016 #38

"Der Spiegel" has been offering up decent articles about this: truedelphi May 2016 #8

That article is heartbreaking benld74 May 2016 #12

It is heart breaking. I got shivers when I got to the part where truedelphi May 2016 #15

I stayed inside during that entire time of those storms. diane in sf May 2016 #21

Please stay safe. We need your voice. Enthusiast May 2016 #35

Fukushima: A Nuclear War without a War Octafish May 2016 #46

Lol! FBaggins May 2016 #47

Debunked where by you? Octafish May 2016 #52

Right here on DU. It's easy FBaggins May 2016 #54

You're arguing with someone who lacks even a 6th-grade grasp of physics. AtheistCrusader May 2016 #55

This is what comes from scientific illiteracy combined with paranoia and an invisible threat FBaggins May 2016 #56

How enlightening. Octafish May 2016 #60

If the source you cited was even in the ballpark, the united states would have been a wasteland in 2 AtheistCrusader May 2016 #63

No, the source said the USA was exposed to radiation from Fukushima. Octafish May 2016 #81

Everyone knows all that shit you just posted, but in less alarmist language. AtheistCrusader May 2016 #85

Really. Show me where any of that's been aired or published in Corporate Owned News. Octafish May 2016 #86

IT WAS A LIVE FEED. AtheistCrusader May 2016 #87

Don't get mad. One report on NPR a week after the disaster isn't much. Octafish May 2016 #88

24hx7dx365 news cycles go into the archive bucket after about a year. AtheistCrusader May 2016 #89

Like I wrote, there isn't much coverage of Fukushima radiation on the news. Octafish May 2016 #90

Why would I get angry? AtheistCrusader May 2016 #91

You do seem to struggle with facts when they contradict your almost religious faith FBaggins May 2016 #93

Ad hominem, followed by smear and bullshit, FBaggins. Octafish May 2016 #95

You keep using those words FBaggins May 2016 #97

Found it FBaggins May 2016 #59

And that has to do with what? Octafish May 2016 #61

On your claim in post #46 FBaggins May 2016 #62

So you can forget all the radiation still spewing from Fukushima due to a bad graphic. Octafish May 2016 #82

You do seem to rely on those straw men, don't you? FBaggins May 2016 #92

That's why I include links and you don't. Octafish May 2016 #94

You've obviously confused a spammed gish gallup with providing evidence. FBaggins May 2016 #96

Well, so what should the graphic look like after 5 years? sulphurdunn May 2016 #67

How many zeroes after the decimal do I need before I can just round it down to zero? FBaggins May 2016 #73

Well, it's a relief sulphurdunn May 2016 #80

quick! someone bring up Banana Equivalent Dose! otherwise the whole mighty bastion of Science MisterP May 2016 #10

This is so freaking sad. glinda May 2016 #11

I agree Victor_c3 May 2016 #14

The USS Reagan cost $6.2 billion Geronimoe May 2016 #16

Common sense is free, Kelvin Mace May 2016 #51

First to arrive at Japan nuclear disaster, uses desalinized water ... who in charge didn't think?? NotHardly May 2016 #17

Human life seems not to be of 840high May 2016 #18

from the article lovuian May 2016 #20

Not a bad rebuttal. Ghost Dog May 2016 #23

Where are the defenders of nuclear power? gratuitous May 2016 #22

Mostly sitting back and laughing that you're falling for this claptrap. FBaggins May 2016 #29

I'm glad you're so amused gratuitous May 2016 #40

Nuclear industry apologist? greiner3 May 2016 #41

Pretty laughable FBaggins May 2016 #43

Not amused at the poor suckers conned by the ambulance chasers FBaggins May 2016 #42

My apologies gratuitous May 2016 #44

You've failed the burden of proof test FBaggins May 2016 #45

last I saw they were panicking about Montessori schooling MisterP May 2016 #32

Well, the USS Ronald Reagan is a Nimitz class nuclear powered supercarrier. hunter May 2016 #34

"16 US ships that aided in Operation Tomodachi still contaminated with radiation." Hortensis May 2016 #24

Thanks for this article, did not know about this after all this time & I do keep up with news. This EV_Ares May 2016 #26

Do you know what the Turner Radio Network is? hack89 May 2016 #31

TRN is a white supremacist CT site hack89 May 2016 #27

I voted to leave. demmiblue May 2016 #33

Amazing that this gets so many recs. Do you recognize the source? FBaggins May 2016 #28

There's a Stars and Stripes link a few posts above you. HooptieWagon May 2016 #36

You're saying that you can't tell the difference between the two? FBaggins May 2016 #37

I never believe... zentrum May 2016 #39

Why does the phrase "Agent Orange" ... Jopin Klobe May 2016 #48

Poor sailors... Helen Borg May 2016 #66

So much for Fukashima radiation disipating "harmlessly" into the ocean... blackspade May 2016 #70

I decided to put other links in the article lovuian May 2016 #72

Sorry.. the new links do NOT support the original story FBaggins May 2016 #74

They should sue the Navy, not the victims of 3/11. nt Bonobo May 2016 #75

They can't FBaggins May 2016 #77

The whole thing doesn't pass the smell test for me. Bonobo May 2016 #78

Your nose appears to be operating correctly. FBaggins May 2016 #79