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Hekate

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19. Prohibition of alcohol was a resounding failure. Tobacco would be as well. As for the rest....
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:48 AM
May 2016

...of your argument, it has nothing to do with "who you are," but strictly how old or young you are.

Society is responsible for the health of children, and there are recognized states of growth. The human brain is not fully developed until at least 21. We don't let 10 year olds drink alcohol or drive cars or smoke. Legal recognition of Adulthood used to be achieved gradually for a reason, ie as judgment increases.

How young exactly do you think it is okay to allow youngsters to drink and smoke legally? I mean, so it wouldn't suck? My brother, the one with the emphysema, started smoking at 13. Nothing like getting an addiction you can never kick just because you are a rebellious boy who wants to look grownup.

Someone who uses a phrase like "having separate laws that depend on who you are sucks" is probably not going to be impressd by studies that prove that if you can manage to keep kids from smoking until they are 20, they never begin smoking. Their judgment by that time has increased sufficiently to recognize the risks, and it looks a lot less attractive.

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Personally, I am for lowering age requirements Kelvin Mace May 2016 #1
I agree... it's your body you should be able to do with it what you want. Now, I might place restric MillennialDem May 2016 #5
how does me smoking in my car affect other people? fizzgig May 2016 #8
It can be a distraction. auntpurl May 2016 #12
An e-cig eliminates all those problems. MindPilot May 2016 #27
True, but it can still be a distraction Kelvin Mace May 2016 #28
by that logic we need to ban all sorts of things while driving fizzgig May 2016 #35
My asthmatic partner reacts to people smoking in their car, believe it or not. Not to mention this MillennialDem May 2016 #30
in other cars or the one they're riding in? fizzgig May 2016 #36
Other cars. She wouldn't go near a smoker MillennialDem May 2016 #41
Well, the 100s of dipshits throwing butts out do! Logical May 2016 #32
dipshits pitch their butts everywhere fizzgig May 2016 #37
I see butts more than anything, for some reason they think it is ok. Nt Logical May 2016 #38
Yup bigwillq May 2016 #33
hawaii has already done this.... msongs May 2016 #2
Cleveland has, as well OhioChick May 2016 #4
Businesses that depend on selling cigs to kids need to suffer. (n/t) Iggo May 2016 #29
I misspoke when I said "kids" OhioChick May 2016 #40
Sad to see him veto that scscholar May 2016 #3
It's a regressive tax that lands hardest on the poorest. Other than that I wouldn't mind. Hekate May 2016 #17
It's an optional tax that doesn't hit those who don't use it. Zynx May 2016 #43
Celebrating authoritarianism. former9thward May 2016 #6
+1 silvershadow May 2016 #13
Kick for denouncing discrimination against young adults meow2u3 May 2016 #22
What a bunch of nanny state bullshit... TipTok May 2016 #7
I walk by a high school on occasion and the air is almost always heavy with the smell of cigarettes Kalidurga May 2016 #9
I hate smoking, but this is stupid Ex Lurker May 2016 #10
I agree with the tobacco industry. nm mr_liberal May 2016 #11
If it isn't ok for under 21, just ban it entirely 6chars May 2016 #14
Prohibition of alcohol was a resounding failure. Tobacco would be as well. As for the rest.... Hekate May 2016 #19
you are arguing to make adulthood age 21 6chars May 2016 #25
Yeah, send send those 18 year old boys and girls to kill and be killed abroad but please don't let bjo59 May 2016 #15
Good. Hekate May 2016 #16
Too young to smoke, then too young to fight in our wars. DLevine May 2016 #18
Separate issues. A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin -- oh never mind. Hekate May 2016 #20
I agree with you Victor_c3 May 2016 #23
Yeah for more nanny state bullshit Travis_0004 May 2016 #21
I despise smoking and think it's the worst thing a person can do to themselves, Vinca May 2016 #24
Ever wonder why "libertarianism" is so popular? MindPilot May 2016 #26
Nope! Logical May 2016 #31
If this country is going to send our men and women into combat at 18 bigwillq May 2016 #34
That'll surely keep those little brats from smoking. panader0 May 2016 #39
nyc does this. maybe ny state too but def nyc does this La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #42
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