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ecstatic

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66. It's weird that people are defending this (and blaming the victim).
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:54 PM
May 2016

I see a lot of posts about how the victim should have backed up data, etc. That's not the point. I actually can't believe what I read. Deleting files is NOT OK. If anything, there should be numerous *interactive* prompts asking "ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO DELETE?" Fine print doesn't cut it. This is so outrageous and just one more excuse for me to never deal with Apple! They are way too heavy handed. I really hope that the user is mistaken somehow.

As far as music goes, Google Play Music has been around for years and is the best streaming music app I've used. It can be accessed on any platform. It's free. If going the paid subscription route (no ads), it's 9.99 per user or 14.99 for a group of 6 people. You'll also get Youtube Red (no ads, and other features). Premium subscription account features can be accessed on any computer and up to 10 devices. You can incorporate your own files from your computer or device to play alongside the cloud music either a la carte, in queues, or in playlists (and it doesn't matter how you obtained the music). You can upload up to 50,000 of your own songs to the cloud, free (even without the $9.99/month subscription). If you end your subscription, you can still access and stream your own songs from the cloud, etc. Also, voice control of music has been available through "Google Now" (siri equivalent) for years as well.

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I have a 300GB iTunes folder and have 2 backups of it offline. corkhead May 2016 #1
I have a 4TB iTunes drive array (2 drives) for my music, books, movies, tv shows. LiberalArkie May 2016 #26
That's nothing RoccoR5955 May 2016 #45
*That's* nothing... Roland99 May 2016 #47
I think I have three of those CD-Rs RoccoR5955 May 2016 #50
I just have the iTunes in the 4TB raid and just a standalone 4tb for my time machine backups and a LiberalArkie May 2016 #51
That's nothing... pangaia May 2016 #80
Oh you have me beat by a mile. I would imagine the Hope Arkansas speaker will load the Mac down LiberalArkie May 2016 #83
Klipschhorns will deafen you as well... pangaia May 2016 #84
I found out that my digital music sounds like crap on an analog system but sound ok with a digital LiberalArkie May 2016 #90
Sadly, I HAD a couple of industrial split Klipsch LaScalas and a couple of industrial Klipsch Dustlawyer May 2016 #112
You picked your wife over all that great stuff??? pangaia May 2016 #121
Quite the opposite! Now i have neither but i dont miss the ex-wife! Dustlawyer May 2016 #122
So you were prepared to play Scriabin, eh.... pangaia May 2016 #128
Real audio equipment Mnpaul May 2016 #96
2 mono Marantz amps pangaia May 2016 #99
I know some who has a pile of those McIntosh amps Mnpaul May 2016 #100
Marantz. :))) pangaia May 2016 #102
Beats me too... freebrew May 2016 #120
I have no idea what you are talking about, and don't even want to know. pangaia May 2016 #76
Sounds like somebody didn't follow instructions, nor did they have a back up of their media. onehandle May 2016 #2
Do you compose music? The OP is talking about having placed his own music, his own JDPriestly May 2016 #14
And I would bet Apple is ... Delver Rootnose May 2016 #22
And what do you base that supposition on? hueymahl May 2016 #42
I compose and I would never allow iTunes in my house. lagomorph777 May 2016 #124
Not quite correct Saviolo May 2016 #24
Then they used it wrong. onehandle May 2016 #32
I'm going to recommend you back it up frequently Saviolo May 2016 #56
Everything I do is backed up 2 places locally, +1 remotely. onehandle May 2016 #58
Congratulations rpannier May 2016 #107
"Do you really own this music? Show us your papers please! Ah no papers, you say..." jonno99 May 2016 #28
Just what to expect for the fuel corperatized JackInGreen May 2016 #43
I've never had this happen to me. Atman May 2016 #63
Hey man, I just, like, borrowed your car man, just ask anytime you want it back. NT Jerry442 May 2016 #77
Not at all. Atman May 2016 #82
Never happened to me either. Mix of ripped CD's, purchased MP3s, iTunes Store stuff, emulatorloo May 2016 #117
My mom still can't figure out Apple Mail. Atman May 2016 #123
Really. So you have no problem with a corporation altering your personal computer files cui bono May 2016 #104
Jesus Saves. mwooldri May 2016 #3
3TB portable hard drives are pretty cheap at Costco. NT 1939 May 2016 #62
I still buy CDs. The music goes into my iPod via my Mac, and therefore at some point... Hekate May 2016 #4
Wow, that bit about "1984" is certainly... ironic. n/t Beartracks May 2016 #25
That's one reason it stuck in my mind the way it did. Hekate May 2016 #36
Hm... I didn't know that about Kindle ebooks. I'll make sure to back up the ones I have. cui bono May 2016 #57
It was really weird. The customers found their accounts had been credited... Hekate May 2016 #64
Totally agree. I don't buy digital movies for that reason if they are stored on the cloud. cui bono May 2016 #71
I thought I had you on ignore but I guess not. Thanks for the tip corkhead May 2016 #73
See? We can heal the wounds! you're welcome. Hekate May 2016 #95
You can get a lot of free books, including classics, on freekindlebooks.org. nt tblue37 May 2016 #127
Also go to freekindlebooks.org for more freebies. nt tblue37 May 2016 #125
Same here. We have used CD stores and I buy albums for $1-6 and own them for life. TheBlackAdder May 2016 #69
I convert my e-books to MOBI for my kindle BuddhaGirl May 2016 #85
Our kids gave us Amazon Prime and a flat screen tv for Christmas. morningglory May 2016 #5
The Big Lebowski is FREE to watch with Amazon Prime. Nye Bevan May 2016 #8
Can I watch this free movie? Or do I have to pay to watch this free movie? Orrex May 2016 #10
You need to be a member of Amazon Prime. Nye Bevan May 2016 #13
Neat-o. Thanks for the tip! Orrex May 2016 #35
If you buy something on Amazon and they offer you their rewards card I recommend it! cui bono May 2016 #75
Here's a couple good links for Amazon Prime and Audible Free Trials greyl May 2016 #86
But you have to pay for Amazon Prime. For some, that is a problem even though it does JDPriestly May 2016 #17
Yes, but the poster I was replying to had been given Amazon Prime as a gift (nt) Nye Bevan May 2016 #19
I believe my issue is our daughter-in-law gave it to my morningglory May 2016 #48
Family shares prime catchnrelease May 2016 #55
I thought that only worked for shipping. cui bono May 2016 #72
My mother-on-law would never, ever be able to watch videos on Amazon. Nye Bevan May 2016 #92
Solution! morningglory May 2016 #93
Disney allows family sharing to Prime accounts. Atman May 2016 #94
They did this to me. I'm trying to figure out how to get it all back and cancel. nt silvershadow May 2016 #6
This is what we get for electing neoliberals who are beholden to Hollywood for campaign donations. Baobab May 2016 #7
Yes, Only Bernie Sanders can protect us from the horrors of the digital age. Orrex May 2016 #11
the other candidate mooseprime May 2016 #54
Um... RiverNoord May 2016 #15
Good advice. snot May 2016 #9
I have ZILCH to do with Apple or their DRM. HughBeaumont May 2016 #12
Apple music has been DRM free since 2009. nt Dr Hobbitstein May 2016 #16
This isn't anything new Oneironaut May 2016 #18
Apple stole from you the minute you bought one of their products Egnever May 2016 #20
Please. RoccoR5955 May 2016 #46
Keep telling yourself that Egnever May 2016 #60
No I did not buy into Apple's marketing RoccoR5955 May 2016 #81
Don't know who you are trying to kid Egnever May 2016 #101
You forgot RoccoR5955 May 2016 #111
Nope. I got my laptop for half the price the same specs would have cost for a Mac cui bono May 2016 #74
It did that to me, too. polly7 May 2016 #21
Everything that I've put into iTunes is saved somewhere else MrScorpio May 2016 #23
You know you can use iTunes without Genius or Apple Music. Initech May 2016 #27
Same here. KatyMan May 2016 #30
I've lost MP3s here and there, Dr Hobbitstein May 2016 #33
I usually mix down to mp3 for the size KatyMan May 2016 #34
I mix down to AIFF, then convert that to MP3 for sharing. nt Dr Hobbitstein May 2016 #68
You can also use your Apple devices without iTunes at all. lagomorph777 May 2016 #40
Yet another victim of Apple's "we'll do it all for you, one size fits all!" mentality. apnu May 2016 #29
every time itunes updates mopinko May 2016 #31
I have a high capacity iPod. I used a product that let me backup from that back into iTunes diane in sf May 2016 #109
You didn't read the Terms Of Service Capt. Obvious May 2016 #37
People are bitching about iTunes yet keep using it! progressoid May 2016 #38
I got rid of iTunes years ago after it silently deleted all my iPod (paid) content lagomorph777 May 2016 #39
Barnes & Noble and Amazon are heading in this direction, too. TygrBright May 2016 #41
The US government stole and/or destroyed They_Live May 2016 #44
You forgot the prime rule of cloud computing SwankyXomb May 2016 #53
I know that They_Live May 2016 #61
I'm super anal about my music files. Javaman May 2016 #49
Fuck Apple, fuck subscription services, and fuck the "cloud" scam. arcane1 May 2016 #52
Back up everything, and repeatedly, to multiple types of media. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #59
Dumped itunes years ago Mnpaul May 2016 #65
It's weird that people are defending this (and blaming the victim). ecstatic May 2016 #66
Nothing unusual here Egnever May 2016 #106
No, Apple Music is not deleting tracks off your hard drive — unless you tell it to Dr Hobbitstein May 2016 #67
Every time I update iTunes, it takes out some of my old ripped mp3s auntpurl May 2016 #70
This thread is a perfect example of victim blaming tymorial May 2016 #78
Apple made the minebot app I liked using useless! LW1977 May 2016 #79
Hmmm, I guess it pays to stay with Amazon. dilby May 2016 #87
That's about how I figured it worked bhikkhu May 2016 #88
iTunes has been a fascist dick since the beginning Ron Obvious May 2016 #89
I guess I don't fucking get it. Why would anyone want to watch a movie more than once? madinmaryland May 2016 #91
That is why I hold on to my physical copies of "Barbarella", and "Wild in the Streets". braddy May 2016 #97
Easy answer: steal it back. hunter May 2016 #98
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #103
Like when Amazon wiped all copies of Orwell's "1984" off of people's Kindles. bjo59 May 2016 #105
Been a big time Mac user since 1998. C Moon May 2016 #108
With DRM, and any kind of software really, you don't "own" anything other than a license to use it. baldguy May 2016 #110
Anybody who uses that Apple Music crap is an idiot. tabasco May 2016 #113
Tried itunes maybe ten years ago, miyazaki May 2016 #114
We have always been at war with Eastasia harun May 2016 #115
unrec for FUD. But agree about back-ups of media. emulatorloo May 2016 #116
Never used iTunes and never will. hobbit709 May 2016 #118
My library is very similar and I use iTunes. emulatorloo May 2016 #119
Apple is human paraquat. Gomez163 May 2016 #126
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