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In reply to the discussion: Best rant on PC I have seen for awhile...long, but worth it. [View all]Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)97. Let's be honest, here:
We returned bottles.
We return bottles now. I'm 33 years old, and I been returning bottles (either directly myself or indirectly through my parents) for as long as I can remember.
Milk came in bottles that the "milk man" collected on his deliveries.
This is hardly a generational triumph. These bottles were reused because someone came to your house to retrieve them, and only for as long as it remained cost-effective to do so. This procedure ceased when refrigerated shipping allowed for consolidation of the dairy industry and the pricing out of local delivery services.
Incidentally, the millennials didn't do this. It was the CEO's of the big dairy chains. You know, old people. The same old people we are to believe are eco warriors for indirectly "returning" their milk bottles.
We used paper bags until the at least the '80s
Same story as above. The decision to change from paper to plastic bags was made by people of power. Unless tattooed and pierced smart ass kids from the future took their flying DeLorean back to 1980-something, we can safely assume those selfsame old folks who decided plastic milk bottles were cheaper than glass also decided that plastic bags were cheaper than paper.
Water bottles are a fairly new phenomenon. Again, probably in late '80s-early '90s.
Not many teens and young adults today owned water bottling companies in the late 1980's and early 1990's. I think this another mistake we can safely pin on the Boomers.
Disposable diapers didn't have widespread use until mid to late 60's.
See above.
Although we weren't using fountain pens, many of the pens I used in school had replaceable ink cartridges.
See above.
I walked to school all the way through high school. It was rare for for a high school kid to have a car. Most middle class families only had one car when I was growing up and that was for the Dad to get to work.
Who decided to move their families into McMansions in the suburbs? Young people?
We only had one TV my whole life at home for a family of 6.
Was concern for the environment the limiting factor there, or was it the cost of a television?
We did use public transportation to get to and from school and work. I walked to the train station, rode the B&M train into Boston, then took the subway to get to my final destination..
And people are still doing that, if they live close enough to do it.
The whole point of the post was to point out how things have changed and not necessarily for the better in terms of the environment.
And here's our biggest source of disagreement: that's not what the story is about.
Not even a little.
The story is about millennials -- tattooed, pierced, and smart-assed, as all millennials are. The author doesn't like millennials because millennials are comfortable in a world he or she finds increasingly unfamiliar. That pisses them off, so they've brewed up some half-cocked justification for feeling their own generation superior to those that will succeed them. Which is funny, because, as I've noted, millennials don't have any power. They didn't decide to start using plastics, or moving to the suburbs, or any of that stupid shit mentioned in the article. That shit's on the author and their generation.
If you're an adult and don't like the way things are, you might want to take a look your generation's aggregate contribution to society instead of railing full-tilt against young people.
And if I sound upset, it because this shit is profoundly insulting.
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It was nice to be reminded of at least a simpler, slower time. The pace today is too hectic!
Dustlawyer
May 2016
#33
I am a Goodwill type store junkie, and have found some incredible bargains.
dixiegrrrrl
May 2016
#56
Used a push mower 60s, 70's & 80's, wish i still had it, well made tool!
Dont call me Shirley
May 2016
#121
All 5 of my brothers and sisters were raised on cloth diapers 1954-1966.
Dont call me Shirley
May 2016
#120
The story is NOT about insulting millenials! It's about how we used to live the green walk! My
Dont call me Shirley
May 2016
#122
You're the one doing the blame shifting. The real cause of environmental degradation is the
Dont call me Shirley
May 2016
#135
My son was born in 1970 and never had anything except cloth diapers. I rode a city
sinkingfeeling
May 2016
#67
Just because things were invented in a year does not mean they came into general use then.
flor-de-jasmim
May 2016
#72
Yep, look how fucking GREEN everyone was back in the good ol' days during segregation!
snooper2
May 2016
#75
Proper grammer, please, young man: we do not end a sentence with a preposition.
FailureToCommunicate
May 2016
#20
I never had a key to the Houston home I grew up in, and many of us left the keys in our cars and our
braddy
May 2016
#32
This is not a rant on PC. It has nothing to do with "PC." It's simply glurge meant to divide people.
Brickbat
May 2016
#43
What cheers me up is all the groups I see on the internet who resurrecting the best of the past.
dixiegrrrrl
May 2016
#58
Free plastic bags are illegal in my community and our WalMart ran out of the 10 cent paper bags...
hunter
May 2016
#59
Surprised this has so many recs. DU demographics must trend older than I thought (nt)
TacoD
May 2016
#78
I agree. There is some truth to it, and the greedy assholes always ruin everything
Fast Walker 52
May 2016
#100
A mixed bag. My car got about 12 mpg, and rusted through in about five years.
JustABozoOnThisBus
May 2016
#105
"The fable of the burning river, 45 years later" Since we have been conditioned to hate the past
braddy
May 2016
#108
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. Charles Dickens
Tierra_y_Libertad
May 2016
#112
I lived ALL those "green things" on the list. And still try to do many of them and more! Too bad
Dont call me Shirley
May 2016
#119
Fuck, I remember Watergate, and every week someone here tells me to get off their proverbial lawn.
Warren DeMontague
May 2016
#182
ahhh...leaf blowers....our 80 year old neighbor uses one on her deck, the sound really carries.
dixiegrrrrl
May 2016
#142
The glaring fault in all this is that all the new things the old person laments were invented by old
craigmatic
May 2016
#134
Your post is too long to respond to all of it, but any coke bottles thrown out of a car were very
braddy
May 2016
#145
Not too long to read, just too much to respond to, for instance you ignored my post anyway.
braddy
May 2016
#148
Well, I won't waste time playing games and exchanges about nothing, that only waste time.
braddy
May 2016
#167
We still have legal lead pipes, that wasn't the issue in Flint, and I don't know why changing
braddy
May 2016
#171
What happened in Flint was caused by not properly treating the water, as far as technology, when
braddy
May 2016
#174
It was a joke. Hey, you know your audience. This place will eat that sort of thing up.
Warren DeMontague
May 2016
#179
The only thing realistic about this story is the part about the old person holding up the line
Warren DeMontague
May 2016
#183