General Discussion

brush

(61,033 posts)

165. Try optimism . . .

Fri May 6, 2016, 02:08 PM

May 2016

and voting blue no matter who.

It'll give you a whole new outlook on life.

Consider this — the Obama coalition: Sensible progressive whites who don't want Trump appointing the next 3 SCOTUS justices, Latino Americans, African Americans, women, gays, Asian Americans, Native Americans, and sensible, left-leaning and moderate independents — collectively these demographic segments are who mostly voted for and elected President Obama twice, and will also elect Clinton to the presidency.

Voting for Trump won't be considered. And note, we, the above, outnumber the angry whites and/or racist whites who support Trump.

The days of winning the presidency with white votes only are long gone. Romney won a huge majority of the white vote and lost handily.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

188 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Donald Trump just convinced me to vote for Hillary if the nominee [View all] HockeyMom May 2016 OP

Indeed. I, similarly, would vote without hesitation for Sanders over Trump. Buzz Clik May 2016 #1

Then you are not a progressive and you were never a Dem like Sanders lewebley3 May 2016 #145

Sorry, but you don't get to make the determination. Now or ever. Buzz Clik May 2016 #147

NO, I get decide for myself that you are helping the GOP: That my choice lewebley3 May 2016 #149

If you insist, but this: Buzz Clik May 2016 #152

Its very progressive to fight the GOP: Sanders is not a Dem he is a socialist lewebley3 May 2016 #155

Dude/dudette, you're taking Buzz wrong. Sheesh, eom fleabiscuit May 2016 #158

Hi Buzz Clik. Welcome to our "normal" Scootaloo May 2016 #176

So you would vote for Trump over Sanders? Or stay home? (n/t) thesquanderer May 2016 #187

well said ... +1 ... nt salinsky May 2016 #2

Didn't you say last month that you were voting for her? Dawgs May 2016 #3

No, she said she voted for HRC as her Senator but voted for Bernie in the primary. leftofcool May 2016 #5

they're always Sanders supporters that have JUST "come around" MisterP May 2016 #8

Basic reading comprehension can indeed, be a difficult struggle. Good luck! LanternWaste May 2016 #40

Funny how few posts there were all year about Hillary supporters deciding merrily May 2016 #126

No, "they" aren't. crim son May 2016 #140

"the right thing" and "holding your nose" have never gone quite well together MisterP May 2016 #163

Well stated. Looks like only about 13% of Bernie supporters view him favorably. leftofcool May 2016 #4

That is ridiculous! bkkyosemite May 2016 #29

I don't think it's that high MynameisBlarney May 2016 #39

Dems who support Sanders are highly unlikely to vote for Trump. BUT... thesquanderer May 2016 #188

that dig was necessary because? retrowire May 2016 #132

Re-read the post lark May 2016 #164

thats better how? nt retrowire May 2016 #168

Bernie is far superior to Trump lark May 2016 #183

no, why is it any better that 13% of bernie supporters retrowire May 2016 #184

That's what it looked like you were promoting? lark May 2016 #185

this is a moment where written word cannot convey retrowire May 2016 #186

Link? AllyCat May 2016 #143

What do you see him getting done to harm us? Vincardog May 2016 #6

SCOTUS appointment. Chicago1980 May 2016 #10

They all have to be approved by the Senate. Vincardog May 2016 #75

What makes you think they wouldn't be? Chicago1980 May 2016 #108

A minority of Republicans have blocked Democratic nominees. If Democratic Senators want to be merrily May 2016 #127

LOL, the irony of your last sentence. nt. MH1 May 2016 #141

Thanks. Not so much irony as a poor sentence. I will fix it. merrily May 2016 #144

Kind of OT, but I'd just LOVE to see a President Clinton appoint Amimnoch May 2016 #85

That would be sublime Politicub May 2016 #93

OMG!!! That would be the best thing ever. Laser102 May 2016 #154

Are you serious? Andy823 May 2016 #23

I do not want to see him as president Bettie May 2016 #136

Think back to George W Bush FLPanhandle May 2016 #28

The had pResident Chenney and the GOP along with too many Democrats to help him Vincardog May 2016 #76

And if trump won he would have the house and the senate Egnever May 2016 #103

Seriously? leftofcool May 2016 #54

I don't know, i guess Bush was a fine enough president La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #98

The only reason all Republican pols aren't supporting him now is because he's too frank. herding cats May 2016 #109

Trump is lining up his campaign now for the General Election HockeyMom May 2016 #7

Given all that are you planning on staying home? apnu May 2016 #12

So essentially you're voting against Trump, not for Hillary. EndElectoral May 2016 #9

That's my plan . . . unless a miracle happens and Bernie is the nominee. Vinca May 2016 #16

If Sanders had won, I too would be voting against Trump, not for Sanders. That works, surely. seabeyond May 2016 #22

Sorry, Hil. I won't be guiltmongered into voting for you. I think a total Gene Debs May 2016 #11

Cool, I'm gonna get my spot in the soup line now. apnu May 2016 #13

You've got it backwards. RiverNoord May 2016 #37

I don't disagree with your conclusions. apnu May 2016 #42

Fair enough. RiverNoord May 2016 #67

Both of your replies, I will echo. That is where I stand as well. Bohunk68 May 2016 #129

Well, that should fix everything. world wide wally May 2016 #64

Making assumptions about people like 'self righteousness' RiverNoord May 2016 #77

First of all, Gore had more votes than Nader, but the Republicans stole the election through world wide wally May 2016 #83

Well, Mr. 'I know a whole lot about people,' RiverNoord May 2016 #90

Lets just say this. world wide wally May 2016 #105

I'm writing in Bernie if he doesn't get the nod. chwaliszewski May 2016 #119

It's your vote world wide wally May 2016 #120

I'm a full-on Bernie supporter, but... RiverNoord May 2016 #171

Well, aren't you just the little Welcome Wagon to voting Bohunk68 May 2016 #130

Yes, Al Gore did win the 2000 election by about a half million votes. maddiemom May 2016 #123

Exactly. phylny May 2016 #88

Exactly! I've done the same for Bernie... maddiemom May 2016 #125

Fucking Nader again. Ignore list for you. Gene Debs May 2016 #112

Thank you! world wide wally May 2016 #117

+1 Paka May 2016 #71

Nothing hard about throwing your hands up and quitting. Egnever May 2016 #104

Hm... RiverNoord May 2016 #166

As far as I'm concerned, voting for Hillary Clinton is giving up. We are now in a Gene Debs May 2016 #111

I actually agree with you re: a necessity for a systemic collapse. AgadorSparticus May 2016 #115

Yeah! Let the revolution begin! maddiemom May 2016 #128

Said collapse is not partisan. It is societal and the majority libdem4life May 2016 #150

Our current choices: SkyIsGrey May 2016 #124

sorry.. too many people will suffer big time nini May 2016 #14

Too many people are suffering now! TIME TO PANIC May 2016 #27

Well there are plenty who will have plenty to lose nini May 2016 #30

15-20 years of a full blown depression? TIME TO PANIC May 2016 #49

Wow! The arrogance! GulfCoast66 May 2016 #81

I am the non-working poor. n/t TIME TO PANIC May 2016 #91

Do you think we'd have the luxury of "soup lines" today" maddiemom May 2016 #131

Had not thought of that! GulfCoast66 May 2016 #135

"We must destroy the village in order to save it." n/t shrike May 2016 #15

The village is being destroyed now. zeemike May 2016 #21

If you want to complete the job, it's up to you. No one's stopping you. shrike May 2016 #31

Well I guess a slow death is better. zeemike May 2016 #41

Look at where we are now and in '07-'08 when Bush destroyed the economy brush May 2016 #38

And we are still losing jobs and still fighting those same wars. zeemike May 2016 #45

The "evil gop" is the key phrase. Obstructionism has gone on since Obama took office. brush May 2016 #118

Yes It is the key phrase zeemike May 2016 #137

Ahhh . . . pessimism. What would we do without it. brush May 2016 #146

Critical thinking is pessimism zeemike May 2016 #159

Try optimism . . . brush May 2016 #165

Optimism can be delusional too. zeemike May 2016 #167

Another Sanders supporter wishing for a repug win brush May 2016 #169

I wish for economic justice and an end to war. zeemike May 2016 #170

"For the party or Trump?" brush May 2016 #173

Yes I said that is what you are telling us. zeemike May 2016 #174

Maybe in your eyes the party is failing brush May 2016 #175

The GOP holds both houses of congress. zeemike May 2016 #179

Ahhh . . . it won the White House twice and has a very good chance of winning the Senate . . . brush May 2016 #180

Exactly! TIME TO PANIC May 2016 #53

Because if history tells us anything,it's that sufrommich May 2016 #18

This response. Better than mine up-thread. n/t shrike May 2016 #33

I have a hard time believing some of this is real. sufrommich May 2016 #34

Thanks. It seems surreal to me, too, that people would feel that way. shrike May 2016 #55

Follows like spring after winter...a truism of the ages. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #36

Gene Debs, got any more jokes for us today? Thats a pretty good one, thanks. winstars May 2016 #19

You're not gonna believe this, but...jury results auntpurl May 2016 #66

I reported it. SusanLarson May 2016 #74

I look forward to that too, but... auntpurl May 2016 #78

Rude SusanLarson May 2016 #80

You understand that you will be banned post-primary auntpurl May 2016 #82

You don't understand the rule. SusanLarson May 2016 #84

No, you have it wrong. auntpurl May 2016 #87

So have I SusanLarson May 2016 #100

Nowhere in my post did I advocate a Republican presidency. Read what it actually says instead of Gene Debs May 2016 #113

Results... Major Nikon May 2016 #68

Yeah, yeah Andy823 May 2016 #24

Ow, that stung. *yawn* Gene Debs May 2016 #114

Agree Katashi_itto May 2016 #25

You are spouting the right wingers dream FLPanhandle May 2016 #32

As if a post count has any bearing on the points made in any discussion. I'm sure your Gene Debs May 2016 #116

LOL Skittles May 2016 #79

NOT voting for her EVER! Hope that's clear enough. And won't apologize for not doing so either. SammyWinstonJack May 2016 #96

Well how nice GulfCoast66 May 2016 #99

Thanks for making sure we know who to blame. HuckleB May 2016 #157

The actual Gene Debs would have laughed in your face. Starry Messenger May 2016 #107

Agree with the guiltmongering, disagree with the collapse. chwaliszewski May 2016 #121

That's really funny and 50% of the time I'm not far from your thinking lostnfound May 2016 #153

Oh, FFS. HuckleB May 2016 #156

I face hardship every day. What the hell do you know about my life? Gene Debs May 2016 #181

Another lo poster who will be voting for Trump. Is that you Susan Sarandon? redstateblues May 2016 #177

I think a lot of GOP will unite against him, too obamanut2012 May 2016 #17

I can't congratulate you for this conclusion Cary May 2016 #20

I'd vote for a head of lettuce over Trump. zappaman May 2016 #26

That looks delicious. Do not disparage lettuce by comparing it to Trump! auntpurl May 2016 #69

Yes. Lettuce is delicious and has a positive influence on our world. roamer65 May 2016 #86

I've been sayin' that since day one. MynameisBlarney May 2016 #35

Same here. I've never said otherwise. And I've never bashed Clinton on this board. drm604 May 2016 #50

I've done a bit of Hillary bashing here and there, I hate to admit MynameisBlarney May 2016 #57

And I would have voted for Bernie obamanut2012 May 2016 #63

Great post. auntpurl May 2016 #70

Ain't that moving? Helen Borg May 2016 #43

Sorry, but the choice between Trump & Clinton is like choosing how you want to be hurt Bucky May 2016 #44

Amazingly brilliant! world wide wally May 2016 #65

It's Pontius Pilate. And, actually, it worked quite well for him. Bohunk68 May 2016 #133

Same here. ananda May 2016 #46

who voted for iraq war for political gain? captainarizona May 2016 #47

Bravo. Sanity reigns. CanonRay May 2016 #48

I agree with you...but can't help but wonder passiveporcupine May 2016 #51

That's a better question than you suspect SusanLarson May 2016 #61

These two statements seem to contradict each other. passiveporcupine May 2016 #73

As a Sanders supporter I agree Shankapotomus May 2016 #52

I'd Rather He Stay In The Senate ProfessorGAC May 2016 #134

Yeah, yeah. KPN May 2016 #56

Will always do zentrum May 2016 #58

Those who will not or cannot say NO will never have power or influence because those that TheKentuckian May 2016 #102

I agree, we've been gamed zentrum May 2016 #106

I didn't get here easily and do I expect horrible ramifications TheKentuckian May 2016 #182

This is like McCain thinking Hillary supporters thucythucy May 2016 #59

thank you for being intelligent MariaThinks May 2016 #60

Jury results... SidDithers May 2016 #62

thanks. I can't believe how much people use the jury system to bully other people MariaThinks May 2016 #101

I hope you alerted on that. herding cats May 2016 #110

I been saying for some time now that I would vote for a turnip if it had a "D" after its name. Beacool May 2016 #72

Right On! fred v May 2016 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author FreedomRain May 2016 #92

He already is worse than Bush. One cannot imagine the unimaginable, but worse wouldn't suffice. L. Coyote May 2016 #97

I support our candidates. L. Coyote May 2016 #94

+1 obamanut2012 May 2016 #138

I am inclined to vote for neither. LS_Editor May 2016 #95

k&r Liberal_in_LA May 2016 #122

Top Reason Americans Give for Voting for Trump HockeyMom May 2016 #139

I've got some true soul-searching ahead of me. But I'm leaning your way. AngryOldDem May 2016 #142

With Trump as GOP nominee I won't need convincing Zambero May 2016 #148

I agree rtracey May 2016 #151

Preach on, sister! lark May 2016 #160

Great post. Anyone who would switch from Sanders to Trump has no values. Anyone who lunamagica May 2016 #161

This message was self-deleted by its author carolinayellowdog May 2016 #162

Let's throw this out there for all you Berniacs that would vote Hillary... chwaliszewski May 2016 #172

Bernie will endorse Hillary at the convention. redstateblues May 2016 #178