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JDPriestly

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54. It depends on the issue. We would very much like to ban fracking in California.

Fri May 6, 2016, 03:00 PM

May 2016

The earthquake danger is too great. If people in other states want fracking, that is their business.

We have a different climate than other states. Water conservation is a big issue in California. We need to be able to decide our own water law.

Flooding is a bigger problem, a more common problem in some states than it is in California. Those states should be free to decide their own policy on how to deal with floods.

And so it goes. Some issues are decidedly local. The TPP and the TPIP would make it difficult for local laws to meet local needs or for national laws to meet national needs.

Just watched a very interesting video comparing European agricultural laws to ours. Theirs are better.

Europeans do not want our Monsanto products. They should have the right to exclude them.

The European law is a civil law system. Our is based on English common law with some exceptions. That should remain.

The TPP and TPIP are impossible and will create many problems.

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R.I.P. TTIP? [View all] marmar May 2016 OP

Hillary will begin to push this 5 mins after she is sworn in. Katashi_itto May 2016 #1

Sad but True FreakinDJ May 2016 #2

This is how they get them passed now, they signal left, turn right. Baobab May 2016 #41

Let's make sure she isn't sworn in, and support Sanders up to the hilt. Betty Karlson May 2016 #8

Yep, it will just have a different name. n/t TIME TO PANIC May 2016 #10

Another name for TTIP is TAFTA Baobab May 2016 #42

It's how she'll convince the GOP to not impeach her. Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #17

Very funny, I spitout my coffee after reading that.n/t fasttense May 2016 #20

Given the number of Delegates up for grabs in Cali and Oregon, snort May 2016 #18

Yes. I think this is the major driver behind the push to elect her. Arugula Latte May 2016 #22

Yep, Bernie has his work cut out for him. Fillibustering all her horrible policy ideas. GummyBearz May 2016 #29

this is my nomination Baobab May 2016 #43

Won't do her any good Spider Jerusalem May 2016 #48

One can hope cali May 2016 #3

It does sound like continuing to have the WTO govern things is preferable to TTIP. pampango May 2016 #4

Holland has elections coming up and has to 'position' himself Blue_Tires May 2016 #5

It's not just France. The TTIP is about as popular in Europe as George W. Bush was. marmar May 2016 #6

But France is the only country who actually stopped negotiations Blue_Tires May 2016 #7

I think you mean Hollande, the president of France? Betty Karlson May 2016 #9

mega corporations = slavery... Equinox Moon May 2016 #11

Never say never. I can only hope that this bbgrunt May 2016 #12

Evil never rests FlatBaroque May 2016 #13

Corporations Aren't People Mitt, They Are Gods scottie55 May 2016 #14

"Despite all the tough talk from the French government, ronnie624 May 2016 #15

K&R. Yes please! Overseas May 2016 #16

That would be wonderful florida08 May 2016 #19

I thought this one was terrible for America? whatthehey May 2016 #21

US Corporations does not equal us/people. Kittycat May 2016 #23

It's terrible for the workers and the environment and citizen control on on both sides. Arugula Latte May 2016 #25

But here's the question I'd like you to answer: malthaussen May 2016 #36

the whole point of the T-deals is to lower regulations and wages to the lowest common denominator Baobab May 2016 #44

It is biased against working-class people throughout the world. ronnie624 May 2016 #26

Yes basically that true but we need to understand that poor countries have been strung along for 20 Baobab May 2016 #45

Well, how about a little philosophical advocatus diaboli... malthaussen May 2016 #24

The People can act only through the State. ronnie624 May 2016 #27

National sovereignty is a means to an end, not an end in itself. In the UK the far-right pampango May 2016 #28

I don't disagree with anything you said. ronnie624 May 2016 #31

Presumably, you disagree with "The Fable of the Bees" then, malthaussen May 2016 #35

Obviously, ronnie624 May 2016 #37

There's a piquant irony in the fact... malthaussen May 2016 #33

I want to have a say in whether a company can pollute the air in the JDPriestly May 2016 #49

I approach this downthread. malthaussen May 2016 #51

I'd say that whether an issue should be decided locally or federally depends on the issue. JDPriestly May 2016 #52

Anti-Federalist, are you? :) malthaussen May 2016 #53

It depends on the issue. We would very much like to ban fracking in California. JDPriestly May 2016 #54

Well, "National Sovereignty" is impossible without a State... malthaussen May 2016 #30

Philosophy is great GummyBearz May 2016 #32

But of course. malthaussen May 2016 #34

they will throw away their power in exchange for money. Baobab May 2016 #47

The size of the group that is entitled to self-determination should JDPriestly May 2016 #50

trade deals put corporations on top of nation-states Baobab May 2016 #46

R.I.P. TTIP? ... Jopin Klobe May 2016 #38

Rest in peace hell! Hotler May 2016 #39

Neo-liberalism by force malaise May 2016 #40