Donald Trump just convinced me to vote for Hillary if the nominee

[zeemike]

167. Optimism can be delusional too.

And the statement "vote blue no matter who" makes it cult like...it means you don't really care about policy at all, just party.

People elected Obama because he promised change...and I was one of them...but change never came in ways that actually helped the majority of people. All that can be said is he was not as bad as Bush. And he kept the Bush economic and policies and appointed conservatives to key positions...the change was superficial and the hope was lost.

And you error to think all those groups you mentioned are monolithic and all will follow your lead...and vote blue no matter who.
History shows it is true...Nixon won in 68 and Reagan won in a landslide. And they did so because of the backlash against the extremes of the left and the fact that the Dems offered them nothing in the case of Nixon.

But we will see. All I know is we have a chance to have real change with Sanders and more superficial change with Clinton...and the independent voter will make the choice. And often they vote out of frustration against instead of for.
And we are supposed to vote out of fear not for something...a dangerous position to be in for democracy.