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KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
8. You're Mixing A Lot Of Apples And Oranges...
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:17 PM
Jun 2012

Exit polls...are what they are...a sampling of some people who have just voted. There's no requirement that they be accurate in saying who they voted for and there's no uniformity on how these polls are conducted. They were and still remain a reference, not a stone cold indicator of how a vote will go.

Voter Caging...and profiling...Yes, very big problems but those are before the vote, they have no direct effect on a final count. Yes, rushpublicans are conducting a systemic campaign to disenfranchise as many Democratic voters as they can and that's a battle that needs to be fought in the courts as well as finding ways around those laws to better organize and register voters. This year I've seen a big drop off on efforts by Democrats to register new voters.

I spent years as a poll watcher and also covering elections as a member of the "media" (yuk...slimy) at various board of elections. There's plenty of games that are played and ways for someone's whose determined to job the system. It was no different with electronic voting as it was with old-fashioned punch cards or push-lever machines...it was and still is up to the poll judges to oversee the entire system and if there are glitches (like what you say you saw) a judge better be there to spot it. If they're not shame on the party and/or candidate. Beyond that it goes to whose counting the vote and, again, working to elect Democrats to count those votes goes a long way in easing the "faud" claims...at least on this side of the fence. Amazing how few people who yelled fraud in Ohio in '04 said it may have happened in Obama's favor in '08. Again...voting has and will always be an inexact science...especially as we have so many different rules that govern how voting is done...but using machines as an excuse for a poor campaign is not going to change a thing...electing people you trust to election boards will.

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Because money talks. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #1
You pose an excellent question. shcrane71 Jun 2012 #2
Or...why are any Democrats elected? KharmaTrain Jun 2012 #3
Obama won because of huge turnout. Stolen elections is not a tin foil hat story- FACT KaryninMiami Jun 2012 #5
You're Mixing A Lot Of Apples And Oranges... KharmaTrain Jun 2012 #8
+538 Fozzledick Jun 2012 #21
lol man do u ever need to buy a vowel 2pooped2pop Jun 2012 #14
Exactly but was told here yesterday it didnt happen in WI libtodeath Jun 2012 #4
Smells more fishy than Wisconsin cheesy doesn't it libtodeath? shcrane71 Jun 2012 #7
Not this shit again SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #9
No. BECAUSE they've stolen elections before .. ananda Jun 2012 #6
Because past elections they "stole" were stolen within the confines of the law. GarroHorus Jun 2012 #10
they will never let us have access to the machines 2pooped2pop Jun 2012 #15
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not shcrane71 Jun 2012 #20
perfect quote 2pooped2pop Jun 2012 #23
Threads like this make the entire party look bad Mistwell Jun 2012 #11
yes it bothers me too 2pooped2pop Jun 2012 #16
It's more like, X happened REGULARLY before........... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #19
Because simply buying elections with other people's money is safer and cheaper. n/t Orsino Jun 2012 #12
Means, motive, and opportunity are all present. bleever Jun 2012 #13
Isn't it sad that our cartoons are more accurate 2pooped2pop Jun 2012 #17
kicking shcrane71 Jun 2012 #18
And they don't have to steal every election... kentuck Jun 2012 #22
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