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passiveporcupine

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98. I agree with you to a point

Sun May 8, 2016, 08:43 PM

May 2016

Yes, Hillary is a victim of "learning the system too well". But in her case, as is shown by her love of her extravagant lifestyle and the fame and notoriety that goes with that, she is one of those who will never really "see" that her success is wrong because it is based on all the wrong things.

she loves being who she is and having the money and knowing all the important people. She thrives on being able to suck money out of the wealthy for her causes.

I don't see her ever taking the path you proscribe, as it would mean giving up too much, including being a master of her craft. She really is a master of her craft when it comes to playing for power and money. And she loves it too much to give up.

I'd really love to be proven wrong on this.

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Are there any narcissistic musicians? sofa king May 2016 #35

Of course not.. pangaia May 2016 #38

Truly! catrose May 2016 #76

oy... ReRe May 2016 #79

Excuse me. They're called maestros! valerief May 2016 #82

That's what THEY think. pangaia May 2016 #84

I only know of the one on old Seinfeld show. nt valerief May 2016 #86

... Spitfire of ATJ May 2016 #90

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it's weird--Cruz lacks the sociopathic charm but seems far more dangerous zazen May 2016 #48

Not all sociopaths are charismatic and charming, Hortensis May 2016 #61

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Trump is a living parody of right wing narcissistic psychopathy Major Nikon May 2016 #3

I think this go 'round madville May 2016 #4

I'm afraid you're right Doctor_J May 2016 #11

That would be Romney keithbvadu2 May 2016 #64

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I agree with you about Hillary. Volaris May 2016 #24

I've thought this, but you put it in words. I do not denigrate her libdem4life May 2016 #72

I think so as well Volaris May 2016 #91

I agree with you to a point passiveporcupine May 2016 #98

Has anyone here seen the FIVE mansions they own? Says it all. libdem4life May 2016 #100

You don't bite the hand that feeds you. She has no pressure to do that. libdem4life May 2016 #99

Yes, that is what they want to present to us as "choices". Two narcissists. n/t djean111 May 2016 #51

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I agree. The fact that she works so hard and so patiently shows that she doesn't think pnwmom May 2016 #71

Courtesy of the Corporate whore media. Manipulation at it's finest. SammyWinstonJack May 2016 #94

the Dem nominee needs to hire a team of them to instruct how to push his buttons Skittles May 2016 #5

Problem is that the same buttons would work on Clinton. nm rhett o rick May 2016 #8

Doubt that. She seems pretty stable to me. Kingofalldems May 2016 #14

Really? This is the person that couldn't find the courage to stand up to the idiot king rhett o rick May 2016 #28

She's survived hours of brutal congressional grilling with a smile. She's done that her lindysalsagal May 2016 #56

Didn't you watch any debates? The Donald's narcissism has him on a hair trigger. pnwmom May 2016 #18

She was also grilled for eleven freaking hours by the repubs. Kingofalldems May 2016 #20

She would give them... reACTIONary May 2016 #19

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I have empathy for the 2.5 American children that are homeless that the wealthy 1% rhett o rick May 2016 #101

"This" is a presidential election.... reACTIONary May 2016 #105

next you will be calling her SHRILL Skittles May 2016 #93

Wrong but I will point out that she sold her integrity to the MIC in 2002 when the Bush Family rhett o rick May 2016 #102

I missed that. Hysterical!!! lindysalsagal May 2016 #59

complete bullshit Skittles May 2016 #21

Lol! zappaman May 2016 #23

I thought a lot about the last narcissist President. sofa king May 2016 #40

Yes! Getting the audience to laugh AT him, then mention how he can't "hit her like he did his wife" zazen May 2016 #49

True. Narcissists either use you or ignore you. In their minds, you don't really exist. lindysalsagal May 2016 #58

Great idea. Push him over the edge. I love it. n/t. lindysalsagal May 2016 #53

Ordering up an ass-kicking for tRump by Skittles! madinmaryland May 2016 #77

Thats a perfect description of Trump and he may have his finger on the nuclear button. OMG, rladdi May 2016 #6

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Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!! n/t hopeforchange2008 May 2016 #9

Holy crap. Old Crow May 2016 #10

I think you are referring to William Dodd dhol82 May 2016 #65

Thank you! Old Crow May 2016 #68

He absolutely is. laundry_queen May 2016 #12

Wow. Old Crow May 2016 #16

Thanks. Funny thing is laundry_queen May 2016 #22

And a second Wow. Old Crow May 2016 #25

You are too kind laundry_queen May 2016 #30

You've done great and your story is inspiring. Old Crow May 2016 #33

The pleasure was all mine. laundry_queen May 2016 #34

Huge kudos to you, laundry_queen ailsagirl May 2016 #42

Aw laundry_queen May 2016 #45

Well, you deserve it ailsagirl May 2016 #46

Great description of fRump supporters, millions of them: lindysalsagal May 2016 #63

Yep. fRump's the ass-hole we've already survived: He's losing more woman than any previous lindysalsagal May 2016 #62

Hmm, the short-fingered vulgarian is vulnerable to the slightest criticism. Bernardo de La Paz May 2016 #13

Agreed on all, except... Dark n Stormy Knight May 2016 #106

I've been saying that for years. Hissyspit May 2016 #26

I'm afraid that if we kicked every person with this disorder... kag May 2016 #27

A book entitled... gregcrawford May 2016 #31

Another good book on the subject - "The Psychopath Next Door" womanofthehills May 2016 #43

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Called it!!!!! Initech May 2016 #47

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No shit Sherlock. Hugin May 2016 #57

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Sociopath, not psychopath Tab May 2016 #69

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K&R Maru Kitteh May 2016 #80

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St. Ronnie, and I was telling everyone about his decline long before the rest of the world knew. L. Coyote May 2016 #87

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K&R smirkymonkey May 2016 #103

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