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55. It never did before Bill. And Hillary didn't have an affair with anyone. n/t

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Sun May 8, 2016, 09:28 PM

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If having an affair made you a terrible president... [View all] nolabear May 2016 OP

This is true, but the argument is more insidious and ridiculous. The argument is that if your Squinch May 2016 #1

True dat. And it's doubly stupid for all that. But this was easier to provide a link for. nolabear May 2016 #8

You really shouldn't refer to President Clinton as a fuckweasel. Silver_Witch May 2016 #53

I thought the fuckweasel in question was Trump. moriah May 2016 #61

Yes! nt pnwmom May 2016 #24

An even worse implication: graegoyle May 2016 #43

And if you are Gingrich, you leave your wife while she is fighting cancer to marry that woman. Squinch May 2016 #49

My understanding is... graegoyle May 2016 #77

Oh, shoot, you're probably right! Who can keep the wives he's cheated on straight! Squinch May 2016 #78

Depends on the spin. HassleCat May 2016 #2

I do too. I won't say he'd continue because I don't know him, but yes, it's silly. nolabear May 2016 #9

Anybody else remember Francois Mitterand's funeral? Manifestor_of_Light May 2016 #33

Exactly. Thanks for even more of a run-down. nolabear May 2016 #66

That's not what made Clinton a terrible President. Wilms May 2016 #3

That's beside every point I was making but thanks for playing. nolabear May 2016 #10

It's the subject line of your OP. Wilms May 2016 #16

Yeah, okay. Point taken. nolabear May 2016 #22

It's not so much the affairs, it's the boss screwing subordinates riderinthestorm May 2016 #4

Most powerful man in free world is helpless victim of 23 year old intern! Divernan May 2016 #5

Hillary didn't hurt anyone. Monica and Bill hurt her. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #28

I think they're all responsible for their own actions Dorian Gray May 2016 #68

She did remain quiet. She publicly attacked no one. If you think otherwise, where's your link? n/t pnwmom May 2016 #69

She famously Dorian Gray May 2016 #71

She didn't say that publicly. She wrote it in an email to her friend and she didn't pnwmom May 2016 #74

FDR boinked Eleanor's social secretary. OilemFirchen May 2016 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Squinch May 2016 #20

No, he also slept with Lucy. I think she was HIS secretary. (In addition to Eleanor's secretary.) Squinch May 2016 #51

This feminist believes that a consensual affair is consensual. nolabear May 2016 #12

So power differential is a problem except for this one place where you do not want it to be Scootaloo May 2016 #30

His serial predation Fairgo May 2016 #40

I wouldn't call him a predator, either Scootaloo May 2016 #41

Unprofessional and ill advised and stupid, yes. But not a simple, back and white issue. nolabear May 2016 #67

Not "subordinates." Only one. And in the 90's there was very little concern pnwmom May 2016 #25

Excellent points. MH1 May 2016 #29

Which was never proven... scscholar May 2016 #60

If it doesn't affect your job performance, it's NOT OUR BUSINESS. Period. It does NOT make you a bad Ghost in the Machine May 2016 #6

And, you know, slaves. nolabear May 2016 #13

Yes, the mowing is a real, literal, pain... but I have to do it. I am glad warmer weather is Ghost in the Machine May 2016 #50

All the women were paid by the right wing for their stories Gman May 2016 #11

Hillary seems to be having an affair with Wall Street... I think that matters. whereisjustice May 2016 #14

This isn't what this thread is about, but thanks for playing. nolabear May 2016 #15

they are going off the rails now Skittles May 2016 #47

And the special at the diner is pancakes. tavernier May 2016 #18

No, affairs don't disqualify you. Affairs with underlings do. Lying to the people does. nt thereismore May 2016 #17

You mean like the way JFK and FDR and countless others did? Squinch May 2016 #21

I don't know enough about them and countless others, sorry. nt thereismore May 2016 #42

Well, you should learn. Because you just said that most US Presidents were disqualified. Squinch May 2016 #48

In the 90's the idea wasn't yet generally accepted that power dynamics precluded a consensual pnwmom May 2016 #26

I don't know what 90's you were living in Scootaloo May 2016 #32

The 1990's. The decade where all the men in Congress turned a blind eye to Anita Hill. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #36

Power dynamics in relationships were well-recognized in the 1990's Scootaloo May 2016 #37

No, it wasn't. The Lewinsky case was the beginning of most people thinking about that, just as the pnwmom May 2016 #38

Maybe it's the first time you thought of it Scootaloo May 2016 #39

Link, please. I can't provide one because that would mean proving a negative pnwmom May 2016 #57

I don't know where you were in the 1990's but most women thought about it a lot. Silver_Witch May 2016 #54

Monica Lewinsky has publicly stated that she went after him and that it was entirely consensual. pnwmom May 2016 #56

and the GOP Speaker of the House who impeached Clinton turned out to be a pedophile. nt TeamPooka May 2016 #44

And every other man at the core of that was having some sort of non-marital affair. nt pnwmom May 2016 #45

It never did before Bill. And Hillary didn't have an affair with anyone. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #55

It was the lying. abelenkpe May 2016 #59

Trump's spouse was unfaithful kskiska May 2016 #19

Ivana and Marla had a fight over the Donald in public gwheezie May 2016 #31

I wonder what the DU bluenoses would have said about JFK's many affairs? (nt) Nye Bevan May 2016 #23

I dunno, but it looks like many would say he was victimized by Marylin, the poor man Scootaloo May 2016 #35

Trump invited his mistress to Aspen along with his then wife gwheezie May 2016 #27

Trump couldn't care less about Bill Clint's affair. procon May 2016 #34

the only people he is scoring points with already have an irrational hatred of all things Clinton Skittles May 2016 #46

This is true! Dorian Gray May 2016 #70

This is 2016! Silver_Witch May 2016 #52

Uh-huh. And in 2016 we shouldn't be blaming wives for things their husbands do. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #58

The affair is not relevant lying under oath is dr60omg May 2016 #62

That's a reasonable point, though I wouldn't consider it disqualifying. nolabear May 2016 #65

Geez, this Hillbot nonsense is pathetic. Monica wasn't the only one. BillZBubb May 2016 #63

Don't you DARE refer to me as a Hillbot. Either make your case or don't but I won't be insulted. nolabear May 2016 #64

Bill Clinton isn't running for office. What a dumb thing to say. randome May 2016 #72

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This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2016 #73

No, being a serial philanderer makes you a terrible human being. alarimer May 2016 #75

Wasn't it more an issue of lying under oath? Seems so long ago.nt clarice May 2016 #79