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In reply to the discussion: Bashing Uber and Lyft? [View all]pnwmom
(108,955 posts)30. Here is more information on how unions are engaged in COLLECTIVE BARGAINING for taxi drivers.
http://www.aflcio.org/Features/Innovators/Taxi!-Taxi!-Cabbies-Form-Unlikely-Union
For nearly 15 years, taxi workers in New York Cityand now in other citieshave been building a union. They were up against a lot: Each yellow cab taxi driver in New York City has been classified by the city as an independent operatora status that excludes them from coverage by most U.S. labor laws and that means their union cannot appeal to the National Labor Relations Board for recognition of its right to represent workers. But these supposedly unorganizable workers refused to let anybody tell them whether they could be a union or not. They organized a union themselves.
Last year, the NTWA, based in New York and led by Bhairavi Desai, became the latest affiliate union of the AFL-CIO, and the first group to receive an organizing committee charter from Americas largest labor organization in a half-century. The members of NTWA have done groundbreaking work in unifying taxi workers, increasing drivers take-home pay and building a structure to provide the taxi workers access to health care.
The taxi workers are part of a new wave of workers who are organizing against the odds. Car wash workers, domestic workers and others who are not ordinarily thought of as union members are discovering and using the power of collective action to improve their lives and work. In early May, for instance, more than 235 mostly immigrant livery or "Black Car" drivers from Town Car International, located in Queens, voted by a 2-to-1 margin to be represented by the International Association of Machinists (IAM). The Communications Workers of America (CWA) and United Steelworkers (USW) and a few other unions also represent cab drivers.
Being a cab driver in New York City is hard. Workers are often on the streets for 14 or 16 hours a day, six, sometimes seven days a week in what the U.S. Department of Labor labels one of the countrys most dangerous professions.
Taxi workers buy fuel themselves and pay high lease rates for vehiclessometimes more than $60,000 over the usable life of a car worth $30,000. Most taxi workers also must lease medallions, which are the permits required for cabbies to pick up passengers who hail them on the streets of New York City. Garage companies charge drivers a 5 percent fee on every credit card transaction. And as independent contractors, the taxi workers are on their own to buy health insurance.
All the risk is ours, said NTWA member and taxi worker Jamil Hussain. If gas prices rise, we earn less. If its a slow day, we earn less. But the company gets its money no matter what!
For each problem, the NTWA has a solution. It has worked with New York Citys Taxi and Limousine Commission to run a trial program to cut the credit card fees by more than half. It has a health care plan for members in the works. The union has negotiated better car and medallion leases with some companies and has been pressuring others to do the same. Since December, the taxi workers have held more than 50 demonstrations against the companies that refuse to bargain.
For nearly 15 years, taxi workers in New York Cityand now in other citieshave been building a union. They were up against a lot: Each yellow cab taxi driver in New York City has been classified by the city as an independent operatora status that excludes them from coverage by most U.S. labor laws and that means their union cannot appeal to the National Labor Relations Board for recognition of its right to represent workers. But these supposedly unorganizable workers refused to let anybody tell them whether they could be a union or not. They organized a union themselves.
Last year, the NTWA, based in New York and led by Bhairavi Desai, became the latest affiliate union of the AFL-CIO, and the first group to receive an organizing committee charter from Americas largest labor organization in a half-century. The members of NTWA have done groundbreaking work in unifying taxi workers, increasing drivers take-home pay and building a structure to provide the taxi workers access to health care.
The taxi workers are part of a new wave of workers who are organizing against the odds. Car wash workers, domestic workers and others who are not ordinarily thought of as union members are discovering and using the power of collective action to improve their lives and work. In early May, for instance, more than 235 mostly immigrant livery or "Black Car" drivers from Town Car International, located in Queens, voted by a 2-to-1 margin to be represented by the International Association of Machinists (IAM). The Communications Workers of America (CWA) and United Steelworkers (USW) and a few other unions also represent cab drivers.
Being a cab driver in New York City is hard. Workers are often on the streets for 14 or 16 hours a day, six, sometimes seven days a week in what the U.S. Department of Labor labels one of the countrys most dangerous professions.
Taxi workers buy fuel themselves and pay high lease rates for vehiclessometimes more than $60,000 over the usable life of a car worth $30,000. Most taxi workers also must lease medallions, which are the permits required for cabbies to pick up passengers who hail them on the streets of New York City. Garage companies charge drivers a 5 percent fee on every credit card transaction. And as independent contractors, the taxi workers are on their own to buy health insurance.
All the risk is ours, said NTWA member and taxi worker Jamil Hussain. If gas prices rise, we earn less. If its a slow day, we earn less. But the company gets its money no matter what!
For each problem, the NTWA has a solution. It has worked with New York Citys Taxi and Limousine Commission to run a trial program to cut the credit card fees by more than half. It has a health care plan for members in the works. The union has negotiated better car and medallion leases with some companies and has been pressuring others to do the same. Since December, the taxi workers have held more than 50 demonstrations against the companies that refuse to bargain.
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but what I posted is, in your terms "absolutely false" but not once did you contradict me
Demonaut
May 2016
#6
you did say "from another thread" but without the link it was confusing, I'm glad you agree, thanks
Demonaut
May 2016
#11
thanks, the tips are more than the monetary value, it lets us know we're appreciated
Demonaut
May 2016
#8
I'm happy for him and for you and for all the people who find Uber a superior product. But you guys
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
May 2016
#53
The fact that they call themselves a union doesn't make it so. They don't do collective bargaining
Recursion
May 2016
#22
They are bargaining with the cities that regulate their rates and working conditions.
pnwmom
May 2016
#24
Funny, the Teamsters Union represents cab drivers and they think they're a union.
pnwmom
May 2016
#26
Did you catch where I mentioned the recent rule change that made that possible?
Recursion
May 2016
#27
Here is more information on how unions are engaged in COLLECTIVE BARGAINING for taxi drivers.
pnwmom
May 2016
#30
And taxi medallion owners usually have a ton of political power at the city level
Recursion
May 2016
#16
Hopefully Uber can keep a steady supply of fresh new drivers for a long time to come
FrodosPet
May 2016
#70
Where did you get your MISinformation about background checks from? Uber? Lol
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
May 2016
#23
if you taken the time to the read the entire thread you would see the requirements
Demonaut
May 2016
#39
LOL From top to bottom you're all hypocritical crybabies. You want everything on your terms.
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
May 2016
#42
What pumpkin patch do you live in? Unlike city cab drivers, Uber drivers aren't obligated to take
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
May 2016
#34
lol, this idiot term "pumpkin patch" is rather funny...and justifies my post about ignorance
Demonaut
May 2016
#40
I am glad you created this thread. People only hear Uber's side of the argument because they never
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
May 2016
#44
and continue demonstrate your lack of knowledge of the multiple sides of this issue
Demonaut
May 2016
#46
Are you an employee or a business man? Do you have a business license to operate legally in your
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
May 2016
#35
yes, I have a business license, I'm just a guy who's trying to get by until I find something better
Demonaut
May 2016
#41
Of course you have a business license because Uber drivers never lie or break the law. They never
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
May 2016
#43
Doesn't matter one fucking bit. I'm not done with you. You don't want to read anything but Uber's
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
May 2016
#49
Fingerprints will "CRIPPLE" ridesharing! LOL Uber & Lyft are run by Ayn Randian
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
May 2016
#37
Let's take this one lawsuit at a time. Uber Lie #1: Alleged Background checks
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
May 2016
#45
What is a myth? That libertarian attitudes will force us all to work for peanuts?
Jackie Wilson Said
May 2016
#58
We can't let it happen. That's why we formed a union. A year ago, City Council didn't really know
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
May 2016
#61
His Hollywood agent mogul brother was an early and big investor and stands to make at least $1B
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
May 2016
#63
I forgot to mention, the biggest single of things to come is the Fight For 15 movement
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
May 2016
#64
It's a temp job for me, and you're right, it's robbing Peter to pay Paul but I've few options
Demonaut
May 2016
#60