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pnwmom

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30. Here is more information on how unions are engaged in COLLECTIVE BARGAINING for taxi drivers.
Mon May 9, 2016, 07:40 AM
May 2016
http://www.aflcio.org/Features/Innovators/Taxi!-Taxi!-Cabbies-Form-Unlikely-Union

For nearly 15 years, taxi workers in New York City—and now in other cities—have been building a union. They were up against a lot: Each yellow cab taxi driver in New York City has been classified by the city as an independent operator—a status that excludes them from coverage by most U.S. labor laws and that means their union cannot appeal to the National Labor Relations Board for recognition of its right to represent workers. But these supposedly unorganizable workers refused to let anybody tell them whether they could be a union or not. They organized a union themselves.

Last year, the NTWA, based in New York and led by Bhairavi Desai, became the latest affiliate union of the AFL-CIO, and the first group to receive an organizing committee charter from America’s largest labor organization in a half-century. The members of NTWA have done groundbreaking work in unifying taxi workers, increasing drivers’ take-home pay and building a structure to provide the taxi workers access to health care.

The taxi workers are part of a new wave of workers who are organizing against the odds. Car wash workers, domestic workers and others who are not ordinarily thought of as union members are discovering and using the power of collective action to improve their lives and work. In early May, for instance, more than 235 mostly immigrant livery or "Black Car" drivers from Town Car International, located in Queens, voted by a 2-to-1 margin to be represented by the International Association of Machinists (IAM). The Communications Workers of America (CWA) and United Steelworkers (USW) and a few other unions also represent cab drivers.

Being a cab driver in New York City is hard. Workers are often on the streets for 14 or 16 hours a day, six, sometimes seven days a week in what the U.S. Department of Labor labels one of the country’s most dangerous professions.

Taxi workers buy fuel themselves and pay high lease rates for vehicles—sometimes more than $60,000 over the usable life of a car worth $30,000. Most taxi workers also must lease medallions, which are the permits required for cabbies to pick up passengers who hail them on the streets of New York City. Garage companies charge drivers a 5 percent fee on every credit card transaction. And as independent contractors, the taxi workers are on their own to buy health insurance.

“All the risk is ours,” said NTWA member and taxi worker Jamil Hussain. “If gas prices rise, we earn less. If it’s a slow day, we earn less. But the company gets its money no matter what!”

For each problem, the NTWA has a solution. It has worked with New York City’s Taxi and Limousine Commission to run a trial program to cut the credit card fees by more than half. It has a health care plan for members in the works. The union has negotiated better car and medallion leases with some companies and has been pressuring others to do the same. Since December, the taxi workers have held more than 50 demonstrations against the companies that refuse to bargain.
Bashing Uber and Lyft? [View all] Demonaut May 2016 OP
I use Uber, shop at Walmart and love Chick Fil-A B2G May 2016 #1
thanks Demonaut May 2016 #9
I don't think that at all yeoman6987 May 2016 #33
Uber & Lyft are leaving Austin griffi94 May 2016 #2
Here's my take on Uber (from another thread) CoffeeCat May 2016 #3
Seems to me you agreed with most of the OP. nt B2G May 2016 #4
I suppose so CoffeeCat May 2016 #5
but what I posted is, in your terms "absolutely false" but not once did you contradict me Demonaut May 2016 #6
The first post I made in your thread CoffeeCat May 2016 #10
you did say "from another thread" but without the link it was confusing, I'm glad you agree, thanks Demonaut May 2016 #11
Ahhh. That was a RESPONSE to another thread. I was WTFing also. Hassin Bin Sober May 2016 #14
I was confused OriginalGeek May 2016 #69
What Do Drivers Need To Know About Rideshare Insurance? FrodosPet May 2016 #72
The people driving for Uber and Lyft are hard working people .... etherealtruth May 2016 #7
thanks, the tips are more than the monetary value, it lets us know we're appreciated Demonaut May 2016 #8
Damn, you make a nefarious racket sound so soft and fuzzy WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #48
The person that wrote this OP is a human being trying to make ends meet etherealtruth May 2016 #52
I'm happy for him and for you and for all the people who find Uber a superior product. But you guys WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #53
I don't believe the OP is the tool, in this case n/t etherealtruth May 2016 #54
thank you, I appreciate the thoughtfulness in your responses Demonaut May 2016 #55
I love people. Find one word they feel comfortable responding to. WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #57
I will stick with taxis, thanks Skittles May 2016 #12
Why? They treat their drivers even worse (nt) Recursion May 2016 #15
They're unionized and regulated. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #19
There are zero unionized taxi drivers in the country Recursion May 2016 #20
There are 50,000 in in NYC alone. pnwmom May 2016 #21
The fact that they call themselves a union doesn't make it so. They don't do collective bargaining Recursion May 2016 #22
They are bargaining with the cities that regulate their rates and working conditions. pnwmom May 2016 #24
No, you're describing a "lobby", not a "union" Recursion May 2016 #25
Funny, the Teamsters Union represents cab drivers and they think they're a union. pnwmom May 2016 #26
Did you catch where I mentioned the recent rule change that made that possible? Recursion May 2016 #27
That made what possible? The collective bargaining? pnwmom May 2016 #28
Those are rideshare drivers, not medallion taxi drivers Recursion May 2016 #29
Here is more information on how unions are engaged in COLLECTIVE BARGAINING for taxi drivers. pnwmom May 2016 #30
There's also much more to a union than collective bargaining Major Nikon May 2016 #38
Taxi service in many cities has sucked for DECADES. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #13
And taxi medallion owners usually have a ton of political power at the city level Recursion May 2016 #16
Exactly. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #17
Uber and Lyft are just.. sendero May 2016 #18
Conventional cab service is shrinking, but it still has an important role FrodosPet May 2016 #65
Exactly SickOfTheOnePct May 2016 #66
Hopefully Uber can keep a steady supply of fresh new drivers for a long time to come FrodosPet May 2016 #70
Where did you get your MISinformation about background checks from? Uber? Lol WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #23
if you taken the time to the read the entire thread you would see the requirements Demonaut May 2016 #39
LOL From top to bottom you're all hypocritical crybabies. You want everything on your terms. WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #42
yes...let's be sure and promote ibegurpard May 2016 #31
Progressives should not be promoting these non-progressive companies. alarimer May 2016 #32
What pumpkin patch do you live in? Unlike city cab drivers, Uber drivers aren't obligated to take WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #34
lol, this idiot term "pumpkin patch" is rather funny...and justifies my post about ignorance Demonaut May 2016 #40
I am glad you created this thread. People only hear Uber's side of the argument because they never WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #44
and continue demonstrate your lack of knowledge of the multiple sides of this issue Demonaut May 2016 #46
Are you an employee or a business man? Do you have a business license to operate legally in your WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #35
yes, I have a business license, I'm just a guy who's trying to get by until I find something better Demonaut May 2016 #41
Of course you have a business license because Uber drivers never lie or break the law. They never WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #43
omg...lol, I'm done with the idiocy Demonaut May 2016 #47
Doesn't matter one fucking bit. I'm not done with you. You don't want to read anything but Uber's WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #49
lol...your funny, I feel better about driving now..lol Demonaut May 2016 #50
i use uber because cab service in my city sucks fizzgig May 2016 #36
Fingerprints will "CRIPPLE" ridesharing! LOL Uber & Lyft are run by Ayn Randian WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #37
Let's take this one lawsuit at a time. Uber Lie #1: Alleged Background checks WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #45
Are you a driver of a cab or truck? Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #51
AFSCME Cab Drivers United Union member WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #56
What is a myth? That libertarian attitudes will force us all to work for peanuts? Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #58
We can't let it happen. That's why we formed a union. A year ago, City Council didn't really know WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #61
Uber was started by Rahm's family? ugh Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #62
His Hollywood agent mogul brother was an early and big investor and stands to make at least $1B WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #63
I forgot to mention, the biggest single of things to come is the Fight For 15 movement WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #64
Disabled riders are elegible for cab vouchers. Starry Messenger May 2016 #59
It's a temp job for me, and you're right, it's robbing Peter to pay Paul but I've few options Demonaut May 2016 #60
I am glad you understand that it is a desperation thing FrodosPet May 2016 #71
no on the taxes, digging that hole right now but yes to everything else, car is still under warranty Demonaut May 2016 #73
Don't lie about rideshare re: the warranty FrodosPet May 2016 #74
My mother supports herself as the owner of a taxi permit DonRedwood May 2016 #67
Umm .... Logic 101 ananda May 2016 #68
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