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231. There were no job losses under Clinton: only Bush: Just a fact

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My kid's generation doesn't really have a shred of hope, does it? [View all] HughBeaumont May 2016 OP

Snap out of it! Buzz Clik May 2016 #1

No kidding. We spent $13+ billion on Halloween Hortensis May 2016 #8

We have a great deal of Hope we have Hillary: she is almost always lewebley3 May 2016 #70

Oh, my. n/t tom_kelly May 2016 #83

Yes. Virtually all our Democratic candidates are Hortensis May 2016 #85

Agreed: Hortensis: but I am done with ST. Bernard: holy then thou routine lewebley3 May 2016 #90

"Done with St. Bernard" (sic) - something tells me LiberalElite May 2016 #157

i have been "done" with him and his bro's since he announced. stonecutter357 May 2016 #178

Where do you get this 40% figure? Also, people should understand jobs are not just going away Baobab May 2016 #91

Hillary has not been in power for 16 years: Clinton's created 22m jobs and lewebley3 May 2016 #98

The ACA is saving the insurance industry's "life" but its killing Americans by locking in a failed m Baobab May 2016 #139

Hillary and Obama's goals was to save lives with ACA: not destroy lewebley3 May 2016 #239

But she's a NEOLIBERAL and she wants o GLOBALIZE services- 70% of all jobs Baobab May 2016 #234

Hillary is not a No liberal: She is a democrat: She works for lewebley3 May 2016 #236

I'm sorry lewebly3, you're really wrong on this one- Do you want to know the truth? Baobab May 2016 #248

I don't need lecture on socialism: I am Democrat: and so is Hillary lewebley3 May 2016 #255

I am a Democrat too and an honest one, unlike HRC Baobab May 2016 #256

The ACA is a cover up to hide TISA which is making health care UNAFFORDABLE for good Baobab May 2016 #235

No the ACA is saving lives lewebley3 May 2016 #237

I always love the DU hypocrisy on companies whatthehey May 2016 #108

forestalling DonCoquixote May 2016 #114

Which does not change the ownership of that equity whatthehey May 2016 #115

Cackle DonCoquixote May 2016 #116

Ain't that the truth. airplaneman May 2016 #198

You are speaking researched facts. Not sure if most have caught up newthinking May 2016 #162

its a road to economic disaser because so few will have jobs and those jobs that do exist will pay Baobab May 2016 #164

Well said. emsimon33 May 2016 #166

What is she going to do "for the American people"? Arugula Latte May 2016 #126

Yes, somehow nations with not even near the GDPs we have can do this for their people. HughBeaumont May 2016 #128

Economics of scale might play a part... malthaussen May 2016 #179

I don't buy that argument. We have a much bigger population base to pay the taxes to support this. Arugula Latte May 2016 #194

Just think how much we'd be swimming in if the CHURCHES paid taxes. HughBeaumont May 2016 #216

I'm with you 100 percent. Religion is one giant grifting racket. Arugula Latte May 2016 #251

We have affordable healthcare the ACA: Thanks Obama lewebley3 May 2016 #188

It's not affordable for millions of people. Arugula Latte May 2016 #193

The poor wont be protected until after they are destituted, to prevent "Crowd Out" Baobab May 2016 #140

Let me put on my boots. U4ikLefty May 2016 #160

if you call getting Social Security cuts "protection" n/t eridani May 2016 #173

All Dem's and Dem party work to defend SS: Its the GOP that want it cut! lewebley3 May 2016 #186

If you choose to stay ignorant of the Catfood Commission, that is on you n/t eridani May 2016 #197

Its the GOP that have said SS is in debt: and the Dem's protected SS lewebley3 May 2016 #230

The The Catfood Commission attempted to cut Social Security. Get a clue! n/t eridani May 2016 #253

HughBeaumont is awake. Octafish May 2016 #215

Ya, that is clearly the problem: my reading ability. Buzz Clik May 2016 #217

No, ignorance is your problem, Buzz Clik. Octafish May 2016 #222

Damn! The Sanders crowd is especially pissy this morning. Buzz Clik May 2016 #224

OK. It's ALL going to work itself out. No need for any sort of discussion or anything like that. HughBeaumont May 2016 #225

Your OP reads like a suicide note. Buzz Clik May 2016 #226

I don't have the pay grade to be part of a solution. HughBeaumont May 2016 #227

Dude, you are working out some shit that has nothing to do with me. Buzz Clik May 2016 #228

It's a completely different paradigm, that's for sure. NRaleighLiberal May 2016 #2

Wealthy people and governments have the power to change the planet. HughBeaumont May 2016 #3

yes. well, thanks for your thoughtful OP - which allowed me to reflect on your words. NRaleighLiberal May 2016 #4

And your post also. HughBeaumont May 2016 #13

here's some more about dollars certainot May 2016 #43

. . . and it isn't just radio . . . . HughBeaumont May 2016 #47

i think talk radio is uniquely harmful in a number of ways certainot May 2016 #66

News "Narration" is growing and will be far more powerful (and destructive) newthinking May 2016 #165

and if the left stops allowing these 90 universities to certainot May 2016 #69

No it isn't, but that poster posts only about talk radio. merrily May 2016 #102

Hillary and the Dem party have the power to change the planet lewebley3 May 2016 #71

For example? Scootaloo May 2016 #109

Too bad they seem intent to change it so they get more wealth. rhett o rick May 2016 #169

Wealthy people have always run the country: it not new: FDR lewebley3 May 2016 #187

No, its been the same paradigm for over 100 years bhikkhu May 2016 #33

You can take it back farther than that. malthaussen May 2016 #42

One thing I've learned from studying history in detail bhikkhu May 2016 #161

Yet We Spend Billions Of Dollars On & Always Find A Way Of Paying For Elections.... global1 May 2016 #5

Pretty soon, we're not going to have a choice BUT to address infrastructure and societal issues. HughBeaumont May 2016 #93

Elections are cheap compared to the money lavished upon war. Dont call me Shirley May 2016 #152

This is exactly my view of how the next 30 years will unfold. I have no idea Nay May 2016 #6

I have an 8 year old son tk2kewl May 2016 #12

I have three sons Bettie May 2016 #18

Yours is the saddest post of the day. CrispyQ May 2016 #59

It makes me sad Bettie May 2016 #117

"the wholesale adoption of Republican bootstrap shit by nearly all Democrats." HughBeaumont May 2016 #53

Completely not true: Its the Democrats that have been fighting the GOP: lewebley3 May 2016 #89

keep telling yourself that tk2kewl May 2016 #111

Yep Go Vols May 2016 #118

Listen, "Liberal..." tk2kewl May 2016 #142

You listen to many left wing tea baggers on the radio: We have a great furture lewebley3 May 2016 #73

Yeah, maybe she can tell me the benefits or detriments of job offshoring. HughBeaumont May 2016 #101

Hillary is not responsible off shoring jobs: The Weather is also not her lewebley3 May 2016 #120

Never said she was. Only said she supports it. Or doesn't. HughBeaumont May 2016 #122

Google "GATS Mode Four" Baobab May 2016 #144

There were no job losses under Clinton: only Bush: Just a fact lewebley3 May 2016 #231

The negotiations have been going on for 20 years! Baobab May 2016 #233

Negotiantions are always going on every day forever! moot point lewebley3 May 2016 #240

I'm not lying and you are ignoring an all important fact Baobab May 2016 #241

The GOP would like to privatize everything: Not Dem's lewebley3 May 2016 #243

PLEASE REALIZE THIS: BILL CLINTON Baobab May 2016 #246

Oh so now the climate is "the weather" now? TheKentuckian May 2016 #214

They wont offshore, they will liberalize.. Baobab May 2016 #143

Why would you want your kid to work in a factory job or the like? snooper2 May 2016 #7

FOR WHAT HOUSES? FOR WHAT PROFESSIONS? HughBeaumont May 2016 #15

Um, you do know that Associates Degree are not that expensive... snooper2 May 2016 #20

I see. It's now hyper-batshit Repubilcan to be concerned about our children's futures. HughBeaumont May 2016 #22

Actually, it's the reverse. Now a huge share of the KPN May 2016 #65

We were blackmailed into voting... freebrew May 2016 #88

Before 1980 homelessness was not such a big problem. But jwirr May 2016 #76

What is it, there's now NO place in America where 40-hrs/wk earning minimum wage gets you a roof? HughBeaumont May 2016 #87

that is why they are globalizing all those fields. they claim we have a labor shortage! Baobab May 2016 #244

Anyone who thinks we have a "labor shortage" in this country . . . HughBeaumont May 2016 #247

people without jobs cant have pets- So training to care for nonexistent pets is not smart Baobab May 2016 #245

You do realize that not everyone has these type of skills? zalinda May 2016 #51

"His high school testing said...." mahatmakanejeeves May 2016 #63

Are those jobs going to be magically immune from automation? n/t Humanist_Activist May 2016 #132

Those kinds of jobs are bargaining chips in a global game, you're an idiot if you dont think they Baobab May 2016 #145

there was nothing wrong with factory work Skittles May 2016 #151

What's wrong with factory work? tenderfoot May 2016 #167

found my way to this story through a DU post... tk2kewl May 2016 #9

I'm tempted to show the Mad Max series to my 5 year old as a documentary and training aid NightWatcher May 2016 #10

"...the Mad Max series to my 5 year old as a documentary and training aid..." CrispyQ May 2016 #27

Sadly, our politicians do not address the future of the US in these areas. We are clearly RKP5637 May 2016 #11

Why having kids is a BAD BAD idea right now. Triana May 2016 #14

My husband and I couldn't have kids to fertility/medical issues maryellen99 May 2016 #17

I remember my two aunts who jwirr May 2016 #84

Excellent! Triana May 2016 #92

Similar situation here. emmadoggy May 2016 #99

Everyone wanted me to have a second one. HughBeaumont May 2016 #19

Think it will be a Bladerunner/Rollerball future as Climate change slowly erodes our ability to make Katashi_itto May 2016 #16

Glad I didn't have kids..... nt PasadenaTrudy May 2016 #21

Tell your kid to learn how to fix robots! Helen Borg May 2016 #23

I tried. HughBeaumont May 2016 #29

Said the user Helen Borg. CrispyQ May 2016 #32

Susan Calvin would be better.:) n/t malthaussen May 2016 #46

Anytime I suggest a minimum guaranteed income on Facebook, CrispyQ May 2016 #24

THIS. Cannot stand this utter stupidity. HughBeaumont May 2016 #35

We've lost total sight of community. CrispyQ May 2016 #52

Well we really like individual choice The2ndWheel May 2016 #80

People who post such nonsense are clueless. ronnie624 May 2016 #45

Nicely stated! CrispyQ May 2016 #54

It's not just an American phenomenon. malthaussen May 2016 #50

The only thing I feel entitled to is a stable and survivable climate. raouldukelives May 2016 #72

The world doesn't owe you anything The2ndWheel May 2016 #86

No, the world doesn't but SOCIETY does. Society is basically a contract that the people agree to. Live and Learn May 2016 #254

No offense meant by this, but if posting to social media is all you do closeupready May 2016 #96

Yep, the solutions are there nxylas May 2016 #175

FDR showed the way. Progressive countries today listened. It still works BUT pampango May 2016 #25

Europe adopted the FDR Bill Of Rights to their people's benefit. HughBeaumont May 2016 #100

Hugh, your posts are always thought provoking and spot on Ishoutandscream2 May 2016 #26

It's changing the graduation card business... Fumesucker May 2016 #28

I remember that one. HughBeaumont May 2016 #37

Nature's correcting itself in regards to us Blue_Adept May 2016 #30

Well, look at the bright side. Neither does your generation. Orrex May 2016 #31

Theoretically. HughBeaumont May 2016 #39

Have a nice cup of soma. malthaussen May 2016 #34

Is depressive nihilism a new progressive principle? It certainly seems so. ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #36

+1. nt sufrommich May 2016 #38

My daughters are seeing the world differently than I saw it Sheepshank May 2016 #41

So true ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #57

It's not me, it's the reality from corporate America and technology. HughBeaumont May 2016 #44

No,it's you. You don't really have to scare the shit sufrommich May 2016 #48

If we're hunting for "fantasies", try "depending on Capitalism to solve the problems it creates." HughBeaumont May 2016 #58

I am, well past, thinking that DUers have an unacknowledged need for Xanex ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #64

"Progress" occurs and people adapt. There are plenty of careers that cannot be automated ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #60

Have you & your kids ever discussed the possibility of a societal breakdown? CrispyQ May 2016 #67

Only when we watched the Mad Max franchise ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #75

Thought we'd have a convo, but guess not. -nt CrispyQ May 2016 #78

What??? 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #110

Apologies on the slang: convo = conversation CrispyQ May 2016 #138

I know what "convo" meanings and I wasn't being dismissive ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #141

Climate change is a real issue though. Turin_C3PO May 2016 #121

True ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #124

Unless effective plans are made and executed, ie. business does not continue Ghost Dog May 2016 #146

True; but, to the point of the question and my response ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #147

I hope you're right, but things are moving very quickly hatrack May 2016 #183

and then there is planetary omnicide by 2031 airplaneman May 2016 #201

my boys and i joke about being prepped for the zombie Apocalypse when we add to Viva_La_Revolution May 2016 #113

Well put. I don't talk to my kids about this either. For the jwirr May 2016 #40

I dunno, read this blog post and maybe come to a different conclusion Hestia May 2016 #49

Their only real chance is a break-up of the Union. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #55

I'm in. When do we start? Maedhros May 2016 #252

While on a walk, I once passed a father and his LibDemAlways May 2016 #56

I think the reason we tell this to our kids HughBeaumont May 2016 #62

I have an 18 year old brother and I'm full of hope for him La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #61

If you tell them as much and convince them as such, then you are correct-- no hope. LanternWaste May 2016 #68

Great comment 6chars May 2016 #94

Basically, what the article discusses, is there has been no tech advances and to not put all Hestia May 2016 #74

Welcome to the first annual Hunger Games Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #77

"Future Shock" Cary May 2016 #79

We're absolutely needed to buy services and products. Capitalism doesn't continue otherwise. HughBeaumont May 2016 #81

If you're asking me ... Cary May 2016 #97

It deals with the unnecessary people. malthaussen May 2016 #180

Too pessimistic for me Cary May 2016 #185

These kinds of Malthusian projections have repeatedly occurred... Chan790 May 2016 #82

About that "Horatio Alger nonsense" Shoonra May 2016 #95

Yep malthaussen May 2016 #181

*SNORT* hatrack May 2016 #184

Yes they do but it won't be easy for them.. AuntPatsy May 2016 #103

Tell him there IS hope! redwitch May 2016 #104

Get into programming JackInGreen May 2016 #105

Have them learn a trade. PeteSelman May 2016 #106

Yep Go Vols May 2016 #127

But our children do have hope My Good Babushka May 2016 #107

. struggle4progress May 2016 #112

People have been hyperventilating about this since the end of feudalism Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2016 #119

Something is going to have to be figured out. Ace Rothstein May 2016 #123

Global Warming ... Arugula Latte May 2016 #125

Off to Greatest Threads! fred v May 2016 #129

Very little hope. What should 840high May 2016 #130

For thousands of years sulphurdunn May 2016 #131

I am encouraged by the green movement felix_numinous May 2016 #133

It sure seems like it sometimes GOPblows431 May 2016 #134

No, their tunnel goes to a very dark place. Thats what the trade deals are setting up, a world where Baobab May 2016 #249

My kids grew up on the farm where the changing climate is experienced intimately riderinthestorm May 2016 #135

Hope we get more finance guys on board with this. HughBeaumont May 2016 #136

Have your kids focus on skills required for infrastructure and green energy, and they'll be fine. cleanhippie May 2016 #137

You're being spammed by internet/social media it's depressing you & family. Sunlei May 2016 #148

Actually . . . . this mostly comes from DU itself. HughBeaumont May 2016 #149

robot and automation fears, I see what you mean. DU is social media too. Sunlei May 2016 #156

And you didn't even mention how fucked up the environment will be from global warming. Dont call me Shirley May 2016 #150

Properly cooked, the wealthy can be quite tasty. hunter May 2016 #153

Like someone said up thread, "Snap out of it." You don't get to show despair in front of your kid. LuvLoogie May 2016 #154

Your kids need to learn to weld, all genders. Welding for art and for utility CK_John May 2016 #155

Les get everyone welding. Welding is good to know when things need to be welded. Bonx May 2016 #196

Look forward to an energy evolution Rass May 2016 #158

Another advantage: Oligarchs can't own and control it like they can with oil and water. HughBeaumont May 2016 #174

Family - something only for rich people, the rest of us doomed to subsistance living... whereisjustice May 2016 #159

Not to worry... Thespian2 May 2016 #163

IMO, 50/50 doom or utopia Hydra May 2016 #168

"I gave up hope and it worked for me!" -George Carlin OnyxCollie May 2016 #170

I gave my kid Plan B. DrBulldog May 2016 #171

The end of work means we have to have another economy eridani May 2016 #172

Yes, it's not automation that I fear nxylas May 2016 #191

The Jetson's model didn't account for elites gobbling up automation cost savings. Snarkoleptic May 2016 #176

We look, we see, we want. ileus May 2016 #177

My generation grew up under threat of nuclear war and Reagan REP May 2016 #182

We are bearing witness to a new mass extinction event that humanity caused NickB79 May 2016 #189

Said in the 1800's, 1900's rinse repeat whistler162 May 2016 #190

Yep. Every single one does this... Phentex May 2016 #195

basic income for everybody, not just trust fund babies. yurbud May 2016 #192

Good God, GulfCoast66 May 2016 #199

Weird how people's expectations change with the world around them! tralala May 2016 #200

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT. HughBeaumont May 2016 #204

I can tell GulfCoast66 May 2016 #208

Service plumbers will be around for quite a while. braddy May 2016 #202

I think we will have no choice but to move toward a guaranteed basic income. nt silvershadow May 2016 #203

Your assessment is essentially correct. BlindTiresias May 2016 #205

+1,000. HughBeaumont May 2016 #209

No I disagree Demsrule86 May 2016 #206

No. Give up, it's hopeless, doom doom gloom doom anigbrowl May 2016 #207

do you see things? hfojvt May 2016 #210

So here's where I ask "What are YOU talking about"? HughBeaumont May 2016 #212

worry accomplishes nothing hfojvt May 2016 #229

Reality is that if you're into IT and you're mobile, you will never be without a job. randome May 2016 #238

I'm deliberately not reading any comments to this thread, so my answer is heartfelt and uninfluinced LannyDeVaney May 2016 #211

I'm pretty much picturing Soylent Green TheFarseer May 2016 #213

You should read about the Luddites, who ran around destroying machines in the early industrial age. Act_of_Reparation May 2016 #218

The Luddites were wrong because labor migrated with change brought on by industrialization. HughBeaumont May 2016 #220

TL;DR Act_of_Reparation May 2016 #221

TL:TSTC. HughBeaumont May 2016 #223

You are being extremely uncharitable in your argument. BlindTiresias May 2016 #232

Yep. I'm being uncharitable with the person screaming about "culls" and robot doomsdays. Act_of_Reparation May 2016 #242

I mention it BlindTiresias May 2016 #250

We the People need to fire the secret government. Octafish May 2016 #219