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11. K&R! If you've read the book, there's a contingent of DUers who personify the Dem party problems nt

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Listen, Liberal by Thomas Frank [View all] SheilaT May 2016 OP

I have it on the table, just waiting for me to finish what I'm currently reading. arcane1 May 2016 #1

Right now on DU, posters are proving the premise... Human101948 May 2016 #2

My fear is that Hillary hate will get Trump elected. bjobotts May 2016 #16

When the Democrats stopped giving a fig about the poor, the middle class got put on notice. Octafish May 2016 #21

here's what analysts/observers like frank have completely missed certainot May 2016 #38

I'm sure Frank has not missed this.... tomp May 2016 #55

it has the perfect defense - it gives liberals headaches certainot May 2016 #61

you are right that these things could be protested... tomp May 2016 #73

dem politicians, strategists, etc don't listen to talk radio certainot May 2016 #75

Goals for expanding opportunity/economic justice have been replaced by political correctness goals. MadDAsHell May 2016 #3

Over the top much? lunatica May 2016 #19

Well said!!!!! tonyt53 May 2016 #26

Well made point. Absolutely agree. bjo59 May 2016 #35

This bullshit about supposed political correctness is what SheilaT May 2016 #39

"the very things that originally built the middle class in this country." MadDAsHell May 2016 #40

You really do need to read the book. The things that originally built the middle class SheilaT May 2016 #41

Isn't the battle over political correctness a major plank in the Trump platform? JoePhilly May 2016 #51

I agree... Hotler May 2016 #52

Get the book, 'Listen Liberal! Or, What Ever Happened to the Party of the People?' appalachiablue May 2016 #4

Thanks! Bears repeating: NewImproved Deal May 2016 #9

Amen! Bernie is a New Deal Democrat, Not a Radical, as Chomsky recently said. appalachiablue May 2016 #15

Celebritocracy Califonz May 2016 #45

Everyone who calls him/herself a Democrat.... ReRe May 2016 #18

I caught it for real. Like Chris Hedges' recent Mexicanization of the US. appalachiablue May 2016 #63

Bill Clinton did not destroy the traditional base of the Dem party Yavin4 May 2016 #5

Yep, Dixicrats and Reagan Democrats weakened the Democratic Party n/t csziggy May 2016 #7

"the Dems had to change their political strategy or face continued losses" Boomer May 2016 #12

What did "those people" gain by voting for Nixon, Reagan, and Bush? Yavin4 May 2016 #27

Did you read the book? SheilaT May 2016 #13

Didn't read the book. I Saw him interviewed, and he's flat out lying to serve his point. Yavin4 May 2016 #22

Really? You saw him interviewed and you know he's flat out lying? SheilaT May 2016 #24

Yes we get it. Bernie wants to take us back to the good old days of FDR leftofcool May 2016 #53

Do you honestly believe Bernie wants to bring back lynchings and internment camps? nt bunnies May 2016 #56

I would not off hand dismiss the point the other poster is making Cosmocat May 2016 #60

It's hard to know if Bill and Hillary and all the other New Way Dems, Neoliberals, whatever name you SheilaT May 2016 #65

Your points are mostly valid Cosmocat May 2016 #71

Ending welfare is a symptom of the increased poverty? SheilaT May 2016 #72

Again Cosmocat May 2016 #74

And odds are... ReRe May 2016 #20

I was 28 when WJC came into office. Yavin4 May 2016 #23

Total... ReRe May 2016 #25

The DLC was formed after the 1988 election. Yavin4 May 2016 #28

But what about your ReRe May 2016 #29

I marched with my father, a union shop steward, in labor's protest of Reagan's firing PATCO Yavin4 May 2016 #31

Boy... ReRe May 2016 #33

PATCO had endorsed Reagan in 1980, remember Recursion May 2016 #66

Yes, they could no longer stand for civil rights or unions. They had to support the corporatocracy bjobotts May 2016 #37

Reagan Democrat Yavin4 May 2016 #42

You are not going back far enough. Look at the election in '72. truebluegreen May 2016 #43

Yep. 16 years before the DLC and 20 years before Clinton Yavin4 May 2016 #44

Or vice versa. Potayto Potahto truebluegreen May 2016 #54

Nothing is going to change for the better until the American White working class stops being racist. Yavin4 May 2016 #59

You just contradicted yourself: truebluegreen May 2016 #62

Lol, i think i believe him over you. Nt Logical May 2016 #57

Being a Democrat for 44 years - he nails it. Mark 750 May 2016 #6

.+1 840high May 2016 #8

cant wait for our resident conservatives to drop in to disparage this book KG May 2016 #10

The nice thing Old Codger May 2016 #17

+1 an entire horseshit load. Enthusiast May 2016 #46

They have already. alarimer May 2016 #32

And now it's HRC-WJC, Inc. GoneOffShore May 2016 #36

K&R! If you've read the book, there's a contingent of DUers who personify the Dem party problems nt riderinthestorm May 2016 #11

Do you think it's because chervilant May 2016 #49

I'd bet $$ they haven't read it. They'll never accept his points riderinthestorm May 2016 #64

KnR nt chknltl May 2016 #14

Never forget that the Koch brothers provided seed money to start the DLC Warpy May 2016 #30

They wanted to hurt Democrats and they've succeeded in doing that, very, very well. In the haikugal May 2016 #34

Huge +1! Enthusiast May 2016 #47

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast May 2016 #48

K&R B Calm May 2016 #50

K&R me b zola May 2016 #58

Alternative Radio RoccoR5955 May 2016 #67

word. AR rocks. KG May 2016 #68

CSpan video discussion of Listen Liberal with Thomas Frank HERE librechik May 2016 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author potisok May 2016 #70