Yesterday, the Obama administration did something horrifying.

[karynnj]

77. If you are one of Brock's army, your work on this thread is not worth your salary

It is not "Cali's little narrative about how horrible Kissinger is" - he did some pretty awful things - even if you JUST consider Cambodia and the overthrow of the Allende government in Chile.

If Clinton simply included Kissinger among the many she would seek foreign policy opinions on, you could make the case that, though he is immoral, he also is a brilliant strategist, which is seen in things like his leading on the opening with China -- and all the realignments that caused. Getting his view, in addition to that of many others, on how some options might play out uses that talent and does not preclude considering the ethics or morality of the choices considered as well. (To be clear, no one in their right mind would even ask Kissinger about whether something is moral.)

I have more problem that they vacation together. I know he was considered charming - and even sexy (!) back in the Nixon years, though like most against the war, that was as mystifying as when the same was said of Rumsfeld in the early years of the Iraq war.

Still, Clinton, should and can be judged on her own record -- which is hawkish and which accepts regime change too easily as a solution.

As to Bernie, I will hazard a guess that the OP knows Bernie far better than you do as a long time constituent in a small state that really does demand that its elected officials be accessable ... and I have no idea what negative "truth" you are speaking of.