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jberryhill

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23. You are 180 degrees from correct

Tue May 10, 2016, 10:47 AM

May 2016

The NC law requires people with penises to use women's facilities.

That's a point you seem to be completely missing here.

The NC law requires this guy to use women's facilities:

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Question about the NC Bathroom Law [View all] LAS14 May 2016 OP

Sorry but it is a straw man. A pre-op or non-op trans woman is not going to use the women's MillennialDem May 2016 #1

But if this person were actually... LAS14 May 2016 #2

Your question doesn't make sense. Act_of_Reparation May 2016 #5

In my experience,some showers at public swimming pools... LAS14 May 2016 #9

Still nonsensical. Act_of_Reparation May 2016 #43

"Single parents brought their opposite-sexed children to open swim all the time." jberryhill May 2016 #53

It's a downright terrible idea. Act_of_Reparation May 2016 #58

If this is really a concern, alter the law to allow legitimate trans protections. By legitimate I MillennialDem May 2016 #7

Few points Proud Liberal Dem May 2016 #76

I'm trans and well aware of many of your points... and some are WRONG MillennialDem May 2016 #77

The pedophiles and voyeurs are ALREADY IN THE BATHROOMS!!!! cleanhippie May 2016 #8

I agree that being transgender has nothing... LAS14 May 2016 #10

Your specific question about a pool shower is nonsense. cleanhippie May 2016 #12

This law has nothing to do with pedophiles and voyeurs either, FYI jberryhill May 2016 #31

I agree Separation May 2016 #82

The argument you are using is based on a false premise--one that is promoted by ignorant people-- mnhtnbb May 2016 #22

One is not trans for 15 minutes One_Life_To_Give May 2016 #70

Actually, a straight-presenting man did that in a gym here in Washington, and pointed to our law pnwmom May 2016 #66

so he needs to be cited greymattermom May 2016 #72

Here is how I see it - Do you look at other people when you go to a public restroom? liberal N proud May 2016 #3

That's why I tried to make it clear that... LAS14 May 2016 #4

Well, public bathrooms are far more common than public showers. And generally public MillennialDem May 2016 #14

I agree that showers are probably avoided by... LAS14 May 2016 #16

I doubt the government wants cross sex showering (or even bathroom use) for NOT OK reasons - MillennialDem May 2016 #20

Maybe we're getting somewhere.( LAS14 May 2016 #24

A point you still don't understand jberryhill May 2016 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author Fla Dem May 2016 #44

And shouldn't women have the right to undress without a straight peeping tom pnwmom May 2016 #67

Frankly... jberryhill May 2016 #19

I don't have recent experience... LAS14 May 2016 #28

Unisex bathrooms seem to be the long-term answer. Everybody poops. IamMab May 2016 #6

I was asking about showers, not bathrooms. LAS14 May 2016 #15

I think the better question is.... usedtobedemgurl May 2016 #11

here are my questions to you La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #13

I donºt support the law. But neither do I want... LAS14 May 2016 #18

You are 180 degrees from correct jberryhill May 2016 #23

"But neither do I want people with penises in the shower with me or my children" cleanhippie May 2016 #27

It hasn't been a problem. LAS14 May 2016 #30

I'm hostile because your "question" is asinine and clarifies nothing. cleanhippie May 2016 #33

North Carolina was founded in 1653 jberryhill May 2016 #42

No, your continued obtuseness is causing my hostility. cleanhippie May 2016 #64

it's been a problem for me--I've had guys hang around entrance to bathrooms to hit on me zazen May 2016 #62

no, i am saying that the law is written in a bigoted ways. if the object was to stop cisgender men La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #37

You know what's really weird? jberryhill May 2016 #41

Ok, I need to look up "cisgender" have no idea what that is. Katashi_itto May 2016 #45

For you or others: 'Cis' and 'Trans' are prefixes from Latin, 'Cis' means 'on this side of' and Bluenorthwest May 2016 #73

Cool explanation. Thanks. So cis stands for ? Katashi_itto May 2016 #75

Cis means "on this side" LostOne4Ever May 2016 #80

Yeah I understand the chemical breakdown. But In the context of trans? Katashi_itto May 2016 #83

Trans is crossing gender, cis is staying on the same side of gender. Change vs staying the same. LostOne4Ever May 2016 #84

AHA! Thanks! ok now it makes sense. Katashi_itto May 2016 #85

"If this is not a problem, please explain why." jberryhill May 2016 #17

As I tried to make clear in my OP, I donºt support the NC law... LAS14 May 2016 #21

The DoJ sued NC for violating the Constitution with this law. cleanhippie May 2016 #25

No. I was asking a little bit more complicated question. LAS14 May 2016 #32

Sweet Jesus on a pogo stick! People with penises in the womens shower? cleanhippie May 2016 #34

HB2 DOES NOT "EXCLUDE PEOPLE WITH PENISES FROM WOMEN'S SHOWERS" jberryhill May 2016 #40

" It's a question about the government's interpretation of the law." jberryhill May 2016 #26

See my response #18 and read the OP again. I don't... LAS14 May 2016 #36

I read your post #18 jberryhill May 2016 #39

I read your post #18 jberryhill May 2016 #29

We may be getting somewhere. LAS14 May 2016 #48

what laws are these: jberryhill May 2016 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author Fla Dem May 2016 #69

Calling HB2 the bathroom law does little to foster an honest conversation littlemissmartypants May 2016 #38

You're right about the name. LAS14 May 2016 #49

I'm sorry, but you sound just like the right wing idiots in my state cwydro May 2016 #46

We need a culture where it's OK to .... LAS14 May 2016 #50

Someone causing offense and alarm in a public shower is engaging in disorderly conduct jberryhill May 2016 #52

I for one have never been under the influence of toluene in a public place. Orrex May 2016 #54

Oddly jberryhill May 2016 #55

I think I caught your act in Pasadena Orrex May 2016 #56

The Rose Bowl Parade really inspires me to greatness jberryhill May 2016 #59

Do you want to arrest mothers who take their young sons into the women's shower? yes or no? jberryhill May 2016 #60

Your last sentence suggests that you've found a way to give that clarification. Orrex May 2016 #47

When I was in high school, we were required... 3catwoman3 May 2016 #57

Why do republicans confuse going to the bathroom with sex? B Calm May 2016 #61

The Government doesn't get involved unless there's a complaint. haele May 2016 #63

The government's position is that whether or not you have a penis, Nye Bevan May 2016 #65

Analysis of the post. LAS14 May 2016 #68

That 'anaylsis' is very self serving..... Bluenorthwest May 2016 #74

Citation, please. Orrex May 2016 #79

Your post is important.... usedtobedemgurl May 2016 #78

A transgender woman has never attacked anyone in a bathroom. alarimer May 2016 #71

I excluded bathrooms from my question. And how do you.. LAS14 May 2016 #81