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polly7

(20,582 posts)
111. Henry fucking war-criminal Kissinger.
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:28 AM
May 2016

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“Control oil and you control nations; control food and you control the people.” Henry Kissinger


Henry Kissinger or CODEPINK: Who’s the "Low Life Scum"?

Published on
Friday, January 30, 2015
by Common Dreams

byMedea Benjamin

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Alli McCracken, a peace activist with CODEPINK, shows former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger a pair of handcuffs during a protest at a Senate hearing on Thursday. If there was justice in this world, argue human rights activist, Kissinger would be in prison for his role in perpetrating war crimes as opposed to sitting before the Senate Armed Services Committee to offer his assessment of world affairs. (Photo: Courtesy of CODEPINK)

A very angry Senator John McCain denounced CODEPINK activists as “low-life scum” for holding up signs reading “Arrest Kissinger for War Crimes” and dangling handcuffs next to Henry Kissinger’s head during a Senate hearing on January 29. McCain called the demonstration “disgraceful, outrageous and despicable,” accused the protesters of “physically intimidating” Kissinger and apologized profusely to his friend for this “deeply troubling incident.”

But if Senator McCain was really concerned about physical intimidation, perhaps he should have conjured up the memory of the gentle Chilean singer/songwriter Victor Jara. After Kissinger facilitated the September 11, 1973 coup against Salvador Allende that brought the ruthless Augusto Pinochet to power, Victor Jara and 5,000 others were rounded up in Chile’s National Stadium. Jara’s hands were smashed and his nails torn off; the sadistic guards then ordered him to play his guitar. Jara was later found dumped on the street, his dead body riddled with gunshot wounds and signs of torture.




Despite warnings by senior US officials that thousands of Chileans were being tortured and slaughtered, then Secretary of State Kissinger told Pinochet, "You did a great service to the West in overthrowing Allende."

Rather than calling peaceful protesters “despicable”, perhaps Senator McCain should have used that term to describe Kissinger’s role in the brutal 1975 Indonesian invasion of East Timor, which took place just hours after Kissinger and President Ford visited Indonesia. They had given the Indonesian strongman the US green light—and the weapons—for an invasion that led to a 25-year occupation in which over 100,000 soldiers and civilians were killed or starved to death. The UN's Commission for Reception, Truth and Reconciliation in East Timor (CAVR) stated that U.S. "political and military support were fundamental to the Indonesian invasion and occupation" of East Timor.

If McCain could stomach it, he could have read the report by the UN Commission on Human Rights describing the horrific consequences of that invasion. It includes gang rape of female detainees following periods of prolonged sexual torture; placing women in tanks of water for prolonged periods, including submerging their heads, before being raped; the use of snakes to instill terror during sexual torture; and the mutilation of women’s sexual organs, including insertion of batteries into vaginas and burning nipples and genitals with cigarettes. Talk about physical intimidation, Senator McCain!


More: http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/01/30/henry-kissinger-or-codepink-whos-low-life-scum

Octafish (54,331 posts)
8. ''The issues are much too important for the Chilean voters to be left to decide for themselves.''



"The issues are much too important for the Chilean voters to be left to decide for themselves... l don't see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist because of the irresponsibility of its own people."

-- Henry Kissinger on the US-backed coup d'etat in Chile.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Octafish/844


The life and death of Victor Jara – a classic feature from the vaults

The Chilean singer Victor Jara was murdered in the country's military coup 40 years ago this week. This classic NME piece from 1975 – taken from Rock's Backpages – tells the tale of his death, and how the coup came to pass

"We entered through a side door. Outside there were crowds of people waiting. They had lists on the door that said Body X, Mass Killing, with a number – this long list and occasionally a name. Then we entered an enormous room in the morgue which, I suppose, was a sort of hall, not the place where bodies are normally kept. And it was absolutely full of hundreds of bodies of people who had died violently. People of all ages. Mostly working people. Some very young. Some with their arms tied behind their backs still. And with terrible wounds.

"And I had to go through all these bodies trying to find Victor's body. And it wasn't there. Then I had to go up afterwards to the second floor of the morgue – which was the offices, the administration. And here also in a long passage there were lines of bodies. And one of these … I found Victor's body.

"I can tell you the state of Victor's body because he'd obviously been tortured. I mean his body was full of bullet wounds and he had a sort of tremendous hole in his right hip.

"His body was distorted and his hands were hanging from his wrists and I have this vision of Victor's hands that somehow they didn't belong to his body.

"At the same time he'd been beaten over the head and his head was all bloodied and full of bruises. But I don't know if it's any value to say that among all the bodies that I saw, all of whom had died violent deaths, Victor's had, even in death, an expression of rage, of defiance.


http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/sep/18/victor-jara-pinochet-chile-rocks-backpages


AMY GOODMAN: Today we look at another September 11th. It was 40 years ago this week, September 11, 1973, that General Augusto Pinochet ousted Chile’s democratically elected president, Salvador Allende, in a U.S.-backed military coup. The coup began a 17-year repressive dictatorship during which more than 3,000 Chileans were killed. Pinochet’s rise to power was backed by then-President Richard Nixon and his secretary of state and national security adviser, Henry Kissinger.

In 1970, the CIA’s deputy director of plans wrote in a secret memo, quote, "It is firm and continuing policy that Allende be overthrown by a coup. ... It is imperative that these actions be implemented clandestinely and securely so that the USG [that’s the U.S. government] and American hand be well hidden," unquote. That same year, President Nixon ordered the CIA to, quote, "make the economy scream" in Chile to, quote, "prevent Allende from coming to power or [to] unseat him."

After the 1973 coup, General Pinochet remained a close U.S. ally. He was defeated in 1988 referendum and left office in 1990. In 1998, Pinochet was arrested in London on torture and genocide charges on a warrant issued by a Spanish judge, Baltasar Garzón. British authorities later released Pinochet after doctors ruled him physically and mentally unfit to stand trial.

AMY GOODMAN: Just last week, the wife and two daughters of the legendary Chilean folk singer Víctor Jara filed a civil lawsuit in U.S. court against the former military officer they say killed Jara almost exactly 40 years ago. Víctor Jara was shot to death in the midst of the 1973 U.S.-backed coup. First his hands were smashed so he could no longer play the guitar, it is believed. Jara’s accused killer, Pedro Barrientos, has lived in the United States for roughly two decades and is now a U.S. citizen. Jara’s family is suing him under federal laws that allow U.S. courts to hear about human rights abuses committed abroad. Last year, Chilean prosecutors charged Barrientos and another officer with Jara’s murder, naming six others as accomplices.

http://www.democracynow.org/2013/9/9/40_years_after_chile_coup_family


nationalize the fed (1,910 posts)
24. Which one would Hillary choose?



Hillary Clinton reviews Henry Kissinger’s ‘World Order’

By Hillary Rodham Clinton
Washington Post.com September 4, 2014

When Americans look around the world today, we see one crisis after another. Russian aggression in Ukraine, extremism and chaos in Iraq and Syria, a deadly epidemic in West Africa, escalating territorial tensions in the East and South China seas, a global economy that still isn’t producing enough growth or shared prosperity — the liberal international order that the United States has worked for generations to build and defend seems to be under pressure from every quarter. It’s no wonder so many Americans express uncertainty and even fear about our role and our future in the world.

In his new book, “World Order,” Henry Kissinger explains the historic scope of this challenge. His analysis, despite some differences over specific policies, largely fits with the broad strategy behind the Obama administration’s effort over the past six years to build a global architecture of security and cooperation for the 21st century.

During the Cold War, America’s bipartisan commitment to protecting and expanding a community of nations devoted to freedom, market economies and cooperation eventually proved successful for us and the world. Kissinger’s summary of that vision sounds pertinent today: “an inexorably expanding cooperative order of states observing common rules and norms, embracing liberal economic systems, forswearing territorial conquest, respecting national sovereignty, and adopting participatory and democratic systems of governance.”

This system, advanced by U.S. military and diplomatic power and our alliances with like-minded nations, helped us defeat fascism and communism and brought enormous benefits to Americans and billions of others. Nonetheless, many people around the world today — especially millions of young people — don’t know these success stories, so it becomes our responsibility to show as well as tell what American leadership looks like.

...Kissinger is a friend, and I relied on his counsel when I served as secretary of state. He checked in with me regularly, sharing astute observations about foreign leaders and sending me written reports on his travels. Though we have often seen the world and some of our challenges quite differently, and advocated different responses now and in the past, what comes through clearly in this new book is a conviction that we, and President Obama, share: a belief in the indispensability of continued American leadership in service of a just and liberal order...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hillary-clinton-reviews-henry-kissingers-world-order/2014/09/04/b280c654-31ea-11e4-8f02-03c644b2d7d0_story.html




Should Henry Kissinger Mentor a Presidential Candidate?

Published on
Friday, February 12, 2016
by Common Dreams

byMedea Benjamin

At the February 11 Democratic Debate, Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton had a spirited exchange about an unlikely topic: the 92-year old former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger. Sanders berated Clinton for saying that she appreciated the foreign policy mentoring she got from Henry Kissinger. “I happen to believe,” said Sanders, “that Henry Kissinger was one of the most destructive secretaries of state in the modern history of this country.”

In one of Sanders’ rare outbursts of enmity, he added, “I am proud to say that Henry Kissinger is not my friend. I will not take advice from Henry Kissinger. And in fact, Kissinger's actions in Cambodia, when the United States bombed that country, overthrew Prince Sihanouk, created the instability for Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge to come in, who then butchered some three million innocent people, was one of the worst genocides in the history of the world. So count me in as somebody who will not be listening to Henry Kissinger.”

Clinton went on to defend Kissinger, using the example of China. “His opening up China and his ongoing relationships with the leaders of China is an incredibly useful relationship for the United States of America,” she insisted.

Sanders responded that Kissinger scared Americans about communist China, then opened up trade so U.S. corporations could dump American workers and hire exploited, repressed Chinese.

Full article: http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/02/12/should-henry-kissinger-mentor-presidential-candidate


Emails expose close ties between Hillary Clinton and accused war criminal Henry Kissinger



“I greatly admire the skill and aplomb with which you conduct our foreign policy,” wrote Henry Kissinger in a 2012 letter to “the Honorable Hillary Rodham Clinton.” The compliment was included as a handwritten postscript added to the printed letter.

Kissinger met regularly with Secretary Clinton, and applauded her hawkish foreign policy in a handwritten message

BEN NORTON AND JARED FLANERY

“Kissinger is a friend, and I relied on his counsel when I served as secretary of state,” Clinton revealed in the review. “He checked in with me regularly, sharing astute observations about foreign leaders and sending me written reports on his travels.”


http://www.salon.com/2016/01/12/emails_expose_close_ties_between_hillary_clinton_and_accused_war_criminal_henry_kissinger/


Greece, Cyprus, Sanders and Dignity

By Dimitris Konstantakopoulos
Source: Defend Democracy Press
April 16, 2016

Bernie Sanders represents a great hope for Greece and for the whole world. We do not know if he can win against Clinton in the race for the Democratic nomination. What’s more, we don’t know if he could ever be elected US president or what he would do if he is ever elected. Sanders, unlike our own Greek politicians – those unbelievable hijackers of the values Left has proclaimed and of the heritage of heroic struggles its partisans have given – has repeatedly said that he will not be able to do anything unless the people help him to do it. In fact, only the people can do something, with his help!

But, in any case, the emergence, for the first time in many decades, in the United States, of a strong public opinion current, opposing the omnipotence of the financial capital and the neoliberal economic model, a model already evolving into a kind of “destructive capitalism”, is something that should attract the attention of any thinking person on the planet. This is even truer for Greeks in Greece, in Cyprus and throughout the world, given that we are at the forefront of the attack launched by the forces of the Finance and that our nation’s very existence and dignity are threatened by them. I wonder what we are waiting for, like the Rayahs of our history, before we finally decide to react. Are we going to wait until we become another Syria (in our case, by the use of economic and political methods) or until Greece is totally “squashed” and Cyprus is fully taken apart through a new Annan plan (as they already plan to do right after the Cypriot parliamentary elections)? It will be very late by then.

And yet, here we have, in the most powerful country in the world, a politician who, repeatedly and of his own accord, guided only by his political ideas and beliefs, has defended Greece in a way that no Greek politician has ever done, without expecting anything in return. By exposing the international financial system and the dreadful attack it unleashed against Greece, first directly and then by manipulating, in partnership with the German government, the rest of Europe to follow suit (1). But we, on our part, we remain simply indifferent to what is happening in the States with Sanders. Is there any chance that we will manage to save ourselves in this way? Absolutely no chance!


Henry Kissinger – the “killer” of Cyprus

A particularly ironic and tragic aspect of the story is that Sanders strongly criticised Hillary Clinton for her statement characterising Henry Kissinger as her mentor. Kissinger is one of “the most destructive figures in American history” said Sanders (5).

Kissinger is not just any random person in the history of Cyprus. He is in fact the perpetrator of the crimes committed against Cyprus, the organiser of the coup there in 1974, of the attempted murder of Archbishop Makarios and of the ensuing Turkish invasion which ensued. (4) How could it ever be possible that Greeks would support the self-proclaimed student of Kissinger against the one who criticises him? We are lost for words..


Full article: https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/greece-cyprus-sanders-and-dignity/

Pilger - From Pol Pot to ISIS: The blood never dried

John Pilger

16 November 2015


Following the ISIS outrages in Beirut and Paris, John Pilger updates this prescient essay on the root causes of terrorism and what we can do about it.

As a witness to the human consequences of aerial savagery - including the beheading of victims, their parts festooning trees and fields - I am not surprised by the disregard of memory and history, yet again. A telling example is the rise to power of Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge, who had much in common with today's Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS). They, too, were ruthless medievalists who began as a small sect. They, too, were the product of an American-made apocalypse, this time in Asia.

According to Pol Pot, his movement had consisted of "fewer than 5,000 poorly armed guerrillas uncertain about their strategy, tactics, loyalty and leaders". Once Nixon's and Kissinger's B-52 bombers had gone to work as part of "Operation Menu", the west's ultimate demon could not believe his luck. The Americans dropped the equivalent of five Hiroshimas on rural Cambodia during 1969-73. They leveled village after village, returning to bomb the rubble and corpses. The craters left giant necklaces of carnage, still visible from the air. The terror was unimaginable. A former Khmer Rouge official described how the survivors "froze up and they would wander around mute for three or four days. Terrified and half-crazy, the people were ready to believe what they were told... That was what made it so easy for the Khmer Rouge to win the people over." A Finnish Government Commission of Inquiry estimated that 600,000 Cambodians died in the ensuing civil war and described the bombing as the "first stage in a decade of genocide". What Nixon and Kissinger began, Pol Pot, their beneficiary, completed. Under their bombs, the Khmer Rouge grew to a formidable army of 200,000.

ISIS has a similar past and present. By most scholarly measure, Bush and Blair's invasion of Iraq in 2003 led to the deaths of at least 700,000 people - in a country that had no history of jihadism. The Kurds had done territorial and political deals; Sunni and Shia had class and sectarian differences, but they were at peace; intermarriage was common. Three years before the invasion, I drove the length of Iraq without fear. On the way I met people proud, above all, to be Iraqis, the heirs of a civilization that seemed, for them, a presence.

Bush and Blair blew all this to bits. Iraq is now a nest of jihadism. Al-Qaeda - like Pol Pot's "jihadists" - seized the opportunity provided by the onslaught of 'Shock and Awe' and the civil war that followed. "Rebel" Syria offered even greater rewards, with CIA and Gulf state ratlines of weapons, logistics and money running through Turkey. The arrival of foreign recruits was inevitable. A former British ambassador, Oliver Miles, wrote, "The [Cameron] government seems to be following the example of Tony Blair, who ignored consistent advice from the Foreign Office, MI5 and MI6 that our Middle East policy - and in particular our Middle East


The only effective opponents of ISIS are accredited demons of the west - Syria, Iran, Hezbollah and now Russia. The obstacle is Turkey, an "ally" and a member of Nato, which has conspired with the CIA, MI6 and the Gulf medievalists to channel support to the Syrian "rebels", including those now calling themselves ISIS. Supporting Turkey in its long-held ambition for regional dominance by overthrowing the Assad government beckons a major conventional war and the horrific dismemberment of the most ethnically diverse state in the Middle East.


More than 40 years ago, the Nixon-Kissinger bombing of Cambodia unleashed a torrent of suffering from which that country has never recovered. The same is true of the Blair-Bush crime in Iraq, and the Nato and "coalition" crimes in Libya and Syria. With impeccable timing, Henry Kissinger's latest self-serving tome has been released with its satirical title, "World Order". In one fawning review, Kissinger is described as a "key shaper of a world order that remained stable for a quarter of a century". Tell that to the people of Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos, Chile, East Timor and all the other victims of his "statecraft". Only when "we" recognise the war criminals in our midst and stop denying ourselves the truth will the blood begin to dry.


Full article: http://johnpilger.com/articles/from-pol-pot-to-isis-the-blood-never-dried


Ken Burch (41,182 posts)

This final message, from one of those affected by Henry Kissinger's "liberal" worldview:



(These are the last words Victor ever wrote, after being arrested for singing truth by the Kissinger imposed military junta that replaced the democratic socialist government led by Salvador Allende in September of 1973-Chile's 9/11.....the poem ends abruptly, as the soldiers take Victor away to beat and torture him to death-a task they spent two days completing. he was also making a tune for the song at the moment the guards lead him off).

(on edit: The words are being read on the recording by Adrian Mitchell, who would later be the Poet Laureate of Britain).

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511163652

Ichingcarpenter (36,626 posts)
5. Kissinger, Apartheid, Cuba and Steven Biko

Don't forget Kissinger REVERSED JFK's policies and for that matter LBJ's anti apartheid policies under Nixon

This one is documented too....... talk about a racist asshole.

Kissinger's 'Tar Baby' memo: http://www.vvaw.org/veteran/article/?id=1215

He also wanted to bomb Cuba for their support in Angola.

BBC : Henry Kissinger 'considered Cuba air strikes' in 1976

http://www.bbc.com/news/29441281

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1163802


America Keeps Honoring One of Its Worst Mass Murderers: Henry Kissinger

Including ten quotes that illustrate his megalomania and indifference to the deaths of untold numbers of civilians.
By Fred Branfman / AlterNet April 16, 2013

Henry Kissinger's quote recently released by Wikileaks,"the illegal we do immediately; the unconstitutional takes a little longer", likely brought a smile to his legions of elite media, government, corporate and high society admirers. Oh that Henry! That rapier wit! That trademark insouciance! That naughtiness! It is unlikely, however, that the descendants of his more than 6 million victims in Indochina, and Americans of conscience appalled by his murder of non-Americans, will share in the amusement. For his illegal and unconstitutional actions had real-world consequences: the ruined lives of millions of Indochinese innocents in a new form of secret, automated, amoral U.S. Executive warfare which haunts the world until today.

And his conduct raises even more fundamental questions: to what extent can leaders who act secretly ,illegally and unconstitutionally, lying to their citizenry and legislature as a matter of course, legitimately claim to represent their people? How much allegiance do citizens owe such leaders? And what does it say about America’s elites that they have honored a man with so much innocent blood on his hands for the past 40 years?

Mr. Kissinger's most significant historical act was executing Richard Nixon's orders to conduct the most massive bombing campaign, largely of civilian targets, in world history. He dropped 3.7 million tons of bombs** between January 1969 and January 1973 - nearly twice the two million dropped on all of Europe and the Pacific in World War II. He secretly and illegally devastated villages throughout areas of Cambodia inhabited by a U.S. Embassy-estimated two million people; quadrupled the bombing of Laos and laid waste to the 700-year old civilization on the Plain of Jars; and struck civilian targets throughout North Vietnam - Haiphong harbor, dikes, cities, Bach Mai Hospital - which even Lyndon Johnson had avoided. His aerial slaughter helped kill, wound or make homeless an officially-estimated six million human beings**, mostly civilians who posed no threat whatsoever to U.S. national security and had committed no offense against it.

There is a word for the aerial mass murder that Henry Kissinger committed in Indochina, and that word is “evil”. The figure most identified with this word today is Adolph Hitler, and his evil was so unspeakable that the term is by now identified with him. But that is precisely why it is important to understand the new face of evil and moral depravity that Henry Kissinger represents. For evil not only comes in the form of madmen dreaming of 1000 year Reichs. In fact, in our day, it is more likely to be committed by sane, genial and ordinary careerists waging invisible automated war in far-off lands against people whose screams we never hear, whose faces we never see, and whose deaths go unrecorded and unnoticed. It is critical to understand this new face of evil, for it threatens not only countless foreigners but Americans in coming years. And no one has embodied it more than Henry Kissinger.

The planes he dispatched came by day. They came by night. Remorseless. Pitiless. Relentless. Day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year. Most of the people below had no idea where the bombers came from, why their lives had been turned into a living hell. The movie "War of the Worlds", in which Americans are incomprehensibly slaughtered by machines is the closest depiction of what the innocent rice-farmers of Indochina experienced.

Hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings in Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam were forced to live in holes and caves, like animals. Many tens of thousands were burned alive by the bombs, slowly dying in agony. Others were buried alive, as they gradually suffocated to death when a 500 pound bomb exploded nearby. Most were victims of antipersonnel bombs designed primarily to maim not kill, many of the survivors carrying the metal, jagged or plastic pellets in their bodies for the rest of their lives.

Fathers like 38-year old Thao Vong were suddenly blinded or crippled for life as they lost an arm or leg, made helpless, unable to support their families, becoming dependent on others just to stay alive. Children were struck, lying out in the open, screaming, villagers unable to come to their aid for fear of being killed themselves. No one was spared - neither sweet, loving grandmothers nor lovely young women, neither laughing, innocent children nor nursing or pregnant mothers, not water buffalo needed to farm not the shrines where people had for centuries honored their ancestors and hoped one day to be honored themselves.


Full article: http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/america-keeps-honoring-one-its-worst-mass-murderers-henry-kissinger


The Trials of Henry Kissinger




Henry Kissinger's Legacy of War Crimes Exposed

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More: cali May 2016 #1
Don't forget the bombing of Laos. Manifestor_of_Light May 2016 #215
Yes, the extent of the bombing of Laos is truly sickening RufusTFirefly May 2016 #251
That is terrifying to even watch. nt. polly7 May 2016 #258
It's hard to fathom how people can be capable of such barbarism RufusTFirefly May 2016 #259
I just can't comprehend the mentality of anyone who could excuse polly7 May 2016 #260
I hope that neither of us knows that kind of person RufusTFirefly May 2016 #261
Yes, that is frightening. And you are probably right. polly7 May 2016 #262
Thanks Cali. peace13 May 2016 #2
Still waiting for a pardon of Gov. Don Siegleman who has been railroaded by Rove cohorts. bjobotts May 2016 #158
Yup. peace13 May 2016 #247
This is the kind of false fasttense May 2016 #165
Dear mr president, the Nobel people called tularetom May 2016 #3
And Kissinger's, too. Buzz Clik May 2016 #10
Carrying water for Kissinger now? Good grief. merrily May 2016 #76
Pointing out that he did win the Nobe Peace Prize is carrying water for him? FBaggins May 2016 #130
As if that post will simply mentioning, out of the blue, that Kissinger won a Nobel Prize. merrily May 2016 #197
Well, they haven't taken Kissinger's back. thesquanderer May 2016 #70
He never even had a chance to actually, you know, EARN it n/t arcane1 May 2016 #129
Apparently it's earned with drones and bombs.... lagomorph777 May 2016 #159
Is that an America Sux post or just an Obama Sux post? uhnope May 2016 #268
I would just like to try a Democrat for a while. lagomorph777 May 2016 #275
If that's a slapdown to Pres. Obama it is not well placed uhnope May 2016 #269
He got the prize before that, and Syria is a mess n/t arcane1 May 2016 #278
wait what? uhnope May 2016 #279
Once both parties agree to the notion of empire malaise May 2016 #4
I don't think that explains it fully cali May 2016 #5
Were it not so there would be several Western persons in prison malaise May 2016 #7
Keep working on it, cali. You need to get these people in line with the proper talking points. Buzz Clik May 2016 #11
Pitiful, Buzz. cali May 2016 #17
Yeah, my feeling, too. Oh-- you're talking about me? Buzz Clik May 2016 #59
This may be funny to you, but I don't find war crimes.amusing cali May 2016 #60
And here we go with the drama. Buzz Clik May 2016 #65
You seem determined to make yourself look cali May 2016 #68
haha GummyBearz May 2016 #98
Indeed. And making a good job of it. mr blur May 2016 #131
So, you're fine with what kissinger did. We get it. It matters not to you that this is who... ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #95
You have half of it correct: Buzz Clik May 2016 #104
What's beneath contempt is Hillary carousing with war criminals. But you don't care about that. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #108
Carousing? LOL! Buzz Clik May 2016 #110
I bet their cocktail parties are wildly entertaining. "You people"? Who, us real Democrats? nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #112
But that isn't why she looks up to him scscholar May 2016 #227
Henry fucking war-criminal Kissinger. polly7 May 2016 #111
Thank you for posting this geardaddy May 2016 #263
You're welcome! nt. polly7 May 2016 #264
You do realize they are friends, right? angrychair May 2016 #150
yes, they spend Christmas vacation with the Kissingers.. grasswire May 2016 #157
+1 nt Duval May 2016 #91
So, you are an admirer of Kissinger? Bettie May 2016 #72
If Hill loves you, that poster will love you - no matter what you did. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #96
The post wasn't even about Clinton Bettie May 2016 #100
while this action doesn't surprise me at all, it IS sickening Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #6
It sucks for someone pretending to be part of the Uber Democrat Elite to toss Obama under the bus. Buzz Clik May 2016 #12
Um, didn't he toss himself under the bus? Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #18
No, he did not toss himself under the bus. Only a "friend" can do that. Buzz Clik May 2016 #53
what "friend" are you referring to? Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #102
duh Buzz Clik May 2016 #106
Hmmm... I thought maybe you had some point that you wanted to get across Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #117
The point is trolling Gore1FL May 2016 #133
Criticizing this is not about throwing Obama under the.bus. cali May 2016 #19
Read your OP. It doesn't stop at criticism. Buzz Clik May 2016 #54
best to just realize some people are prone to histrionics uhnope May 2016 #273
This is what happens when you treat politicians like reality TV stars. frylock May 2016 #119
K & R Mbrow May 2016 #8
The total demonization of Kissinger is crucial to the Berners. CRITICAL! Buzz Clik May 2016 #9
....... Hotler May 2016 #13
It's no plot -- it's a ritual. Buzz Clik May 2016 #14
Pathetic. This is about celebrating a man responsible for the death and suffering cali May 2016 #23
Pathetic? I avoided using that word in reference to you... Buzz Clik May 2016 #56
Oh poor victim Buzz. Ugh. cali May 2016 #64
Oh fuck no. I know exactly how insulting you are when I respond to you. Eyes wide open. Buzz Clik May 2016 #67
I don't see you as an adversary at all. cali May 2016 #69
Lol, you have to be joking. You are neither! Nt Logical May 2016 #74
Keep digging Buzz LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #137
This has nothing to do with bernie cali May 2016 #16
funny Locrian May 2016 #25
Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Try this: google "clinton kissinger site:democraticunderground.com" Buzz Clik May 2016 #57
You sure are butthurt as of late. nt Gore1FL May 2016 #134
All you've done is make a fool of yourself Bradical79 May 2016 #204
Hey ya go, Ace: Buzz Clik May 2016 #221
And right on cue, here it comes: the Hillary's Mentor thread. Buzz Clik May 2016 #92
Are you freaking serious? Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #20
Alas, the poster is serious and represents many Hillary supporters. cali May 2016 #21
that's pretty sad Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #22
It is. And it's an unhealthy p perspective. cali May 2016 #24
He has over 11 hides Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #51
not surprising that some are privileged here. wildbilln864 May 2016 #103
it's definitely a conspiracy. uhnope May 2016 #270
Hillary supporters on DU are super-users, w/unlimited hide allowances, apparently, closeupready May 2016 #175
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AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Orrex May 2016 #271
I heard they can make your computer slow down if they want, too uhnope May 2016 #272
Have you even read any history? Ever? A little bit? Jester Messiah May 2016 #27
Kissinger was a war criminal long before Clinton. blackspade May 2016 #29
The "Demonization" of Kissinger is of his own making rpannier May 2016 #31
Nothing is critical here, sulphurdunn May 2016 #33
We are to ignore the death of millions because .... Hillary? bread_and_roses May 2016 #34
Good to see you, even in this thread. cali May 2016 #35
Thanks cali bread_and_roses May 2016 #66
Same here newfie11 May 2016 #52
I believed Kissinger was evil before I ever heard of the Clintons Generic Other May 2016 #36
Wow, now you must defend Kissinger. zeemike May 2016 #37
Hey, hill fans say Bernie is a war criminal just like Kissinger! cali May 2016 #46
Demonizing.... IDemo May 2016 #48
Whatever it takes.....including glorifying a war criminal...... SammyWinstonJack May 2016 #61
What a weird response Scootaloo May 2016 #81
And the reclamation of Kissinger is critical to Hillary. Good luck with that! Doctor_J May 2016 #139
Kissinger was the bad guy since the 60's. Nothing to with Hillary. This is about America harun May 2016 #172
Ok folks, shows over, no way we can top this post Lordquinton May 2016 #195
What the fucking hell? Hissyspit May 2016 #253
recall mtasselin May 2016 #15
Your new 3rd-Way Democratic Party, ladies and gentlemen. Jester Messiah May 2016 #26
+1 chwaliszewski May 2016 #32
+1! KPN May 2016 #101
I'm still blown away by anyone connecting this to the primary election. cali May 2016 #28
You Said It Liberal_Dog May 2016 #85
It is important for us not to feel too sanctimonious. Alkene May 2016 #30
And puffy socks May 2016 #38
Fuck. You really are something else. Ugh. cali May 2016 #39
And TRUE puffy socks May 2016 #41
No. It's a bald and vile lie. You are exhibiting either shocking ignorance or shocking cali May 2016 #44
Post Primary season is going to be a BLAST LOL snooper2 May 2016 #63
So now Kissinger will be off limits? The fux? Kittycat May 2016 #146
Lame and off topic. truebluegreen May 2016 #43
Aw puffy socks May 2016 #47
Fuck knows why I'm going to try. Forget everything but Kissinger for a minute cali May 2016 #50
Cut him some slack. Fuddnik May 2016 #80
Cali, he calls him self "socks" passiveporcupine May 2016 #199
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Kissinger is full of hatred for everyone! Silver_Witch May 2016 #71
If you are one of Brock's army, your work on this thread is not worth your salary karynnj May 2016 #77
Are you friggin kidding me? KPN May 2016 #105
Planet Brock n/t arcane1 May 2016 #128
The deaths due to Bernie votes dont count puffy socks May 2016 #201
You have removed all doubt. Ugh. Particularly putrid big lie. Shame, shame, shame on YOU. cali May 2016 #202
Nobody died in Somalia puffy socks May 2016 #203
You are surpassingly clueless. Your posts in this thread disgusting. Shame, shame shame. cali May 2016 #205
Answer the question.. puffy socks May 2016 #214
Let's see, a member of DU since April 19 (less than 3 weeks)! KPN May 2016 #219
If you refuse to answer the question and ignore it puffy socks May 2016 #226
Yep. That's our puffy. cali May 2016 #248
The question is a lie in itself, inferring that Bernie is uniquely responsible for those deaths cali May 2016 #277
Blood libel nonsense n/t Scootaloo May 2016 #78
What a ridiculous claim ... Trajan May 2016 #87
Well, if the posts in this thread are dgibby May 2016 #167
would you agree that sharing responsibility is very different from being a main driver of Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #115
Member since: Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:16 PM frylock May 2016 #120
Another moronic statement from the mid-April club. arcane1 May 2016 #127
278 posts. Which rock did you reside under before you decided to attack Bernie? nt thereismore May 2016 #141
Yes. Bernie Sanders = Henry Kissinger. Right. Hissyspit May 2016 #254
This is the same President who said we weren't going to prosecute the war crimes of the Bush Admin. Ford_Prefect May 2016 #40
Comparing Bernie to Kissinger is hateful and deranged. It proves the point made in the op. cali May 2016 #42
Who could be so mind-bogglingly stupid to suggest Bernie Sanders and Henry Kissinger are similar? Maedhros May 2016 #121
I think it's more petty spite than stupidity cali May 2016 #122
k&r nationalize the fed May 2016 #45
You are correct pmorlan1 May 2016 #73
What happened to Buzz(whatever's) posts? They were disgusting. mikehiggins May 2016 #49
the party's been boiled down to a cult: Bush/Trump's bad because he's like Kissinger MisterP May 2016 #75
+1000 k and r's if I could!!! 7wo7rees May 2016 #84
not surprising at all,members of the war club honoring each other. wendylaroux May 2016 #55
I really get all kinds of P/O when this kind of ish happens but... Stellar May 2016 #62
Why can't the thread just be about our president honoring a war criminal? Why mucifer May 2016 #79
Because Hillary also considers Kissinger a mentor. alarimer May 2016 #144
There's no words to describe my disgust that anyone would try rehabilitating Kissingers reputation riderinthestorm May 2016 #82
+1 jwirr May 2016 #109
I'm disgusted. zentrum May 2016 #83
Kissinger is scum of the earth. nt JEB May 2016 #86
Washington consensus I Bought the Law May 2016 #88
Interesting thread, should go with this one: malthaussen May 2016 #89
Well, Cali... R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #90
I don't agree, Daneel cali May 2016 #93
A die is a die, Cali. Perhaps killing civillians in the fight R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #118
Nuance in this, is a prerequisite. cali May 2016 #123
Murder is murder. R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #140
I will though. I don't think all acts of murder are on the same plane. cali May 2016 #145
One can't be a little pregnant. R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #148
If we launch a Hellfire missile at a 'terrorist', and we know that innocent people in the vicinity Maedhros May 2016 #281
How would US citizens act if it were Mexico launching R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #285
We would be carpet-bombing within a week.[n/t] Maedhros May 2016 #287
Do you consider killing someone in self defense murder? passiveporcupine May 2016 #282
What we are doing is not self-defence. R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #286
While I agree that it is not the same as direct and imminent self defense, passiveporcupine May 2016 #288
the real thing the obama administration did yesterday was amazing. La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #94
Excellent point hueymahl May 2016 #97
Yes, that was great. Jarringly at.odds with this. cali May 2016 #113
K & R !!! to the Max... Thespian2 May 2016 #99
appalled, but not surprised. niyad May 2016 #107
Actually, among Kissinger's many war crimes . . FairWinds May 2016 #114
+1,000,000. nt. polly7 May 2016 #132
Not a Kissinger lover myself but radical noodle May 2016 #196
The K man personally knew the war was lost . . FairWinds May 2016 #289
Kissinger, the Dulles boys, Ivy League, Oxford, etc...all really smart boys who played islandmkl May 2016 #116
We forget sometimes because Repubs are so loud and scary--They are really DUMB. n/t librechik May 2016 #125
A murderous psychopath... gregcrawford May 2016 #124
But, but he's a DEMOCRAT!!! Blue No Matter Who!! Democrats can't do bad things!!!11 arcane1 May 2016 #126
did the part where he overlooked all the Bush Inc. war criminals not give you a clue? Skittles May 2016 #135
Obama toasts Poppy Bush: 'We are surely a kinder and gentler nation because of you' Octafish May 2016 #142
Republicans didn't disappear, they took over felix_numinous May 2016 #136
don't think it's a repub. thing or a dem thing,it's a rich thing. Oligarchy is here. wendylaroux May 2016 #151
Those who align with the sociopathic oligarchy felix_numinous May 2016 #153
Kissinger needs to be "normalized" so he can openly advise & mentor Hillary's endless wars. nt 99th_Monkey May 2016 #138
Mr. President, I am changing my avatar of you and Bernie to just Bernie. nt thereismore May 2016 #143
Wow, Hillary's SoS is all scrubbed, fresh, and ready. lagomorph777 May 2016 #147
oh god... what a thought Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #155
Kinda like honoring John Dillinger for his efforts to remove paper and metal from banks. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #149
Dillinger was actually convicted of a crime. Gomez163 May 2016 #180
Unfortunately, Kissinger hasn't been convicted of his many crimes. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #185
A point that should be heeded but is not. Gomez163 May 2016 #186
You've only been here two months passiveporcupine May 2016 #283
Bernie juries. I wuz railroaded Gomez163 May 2016 #284
Couldn't agree more. Utterly repellent but bjo59 May 2016 #152
The nature of the diplomatic world is that you have to associate with scoundrels. Gomez163 May 2016 #154
just stop,no excuse for this.makes you sound awful. wendylaroux May 2016 #160
Awful to a full moon true believer. You cant be in government and be like that. Gomez163 May 2016 #162
This person is a war criminal murderer,looks like you are the full moon true believer. wendylaroux May 2016 #163
You see in this country, you're innocent until proven guilty. Gomez163 May 2016 #170
Absolutely disgusting. nt. polly7 May 2016 #174
I guess things work differently in Canada. Gomez163 May 2016 #177
I'm glad you don't too. polly7 May 2016 #181
You need to be careful. They can sue you for defamation and would win hands down. Gomez163 May 2016 #182
lmfao. polly7 May 2016 #183
Means nothing. If you think he's a crook - call the cops. Gomez163 May 2016 #184
How is that going to help the millions he slaughtered? nt. polly7 May 2016 #191
Calling him names wont help either. Gomez163 May 2016 #192
I call people who've lied and deceived to slaughter millions - evil, ugly, warmongering criminals. polly7 May 2016 #193
And fail miserably cali May 2016 #200
Kissinger is not merely a scoundrel. And celebrating someone is cali May 2016 #164
Associate with "scoundrels" indeed. bjo59 May 2016 #255
Whhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaat? ReRe May 2016 #156
And H is to the right of him! wendylaroux May 2016 #161
Yup... ReRe May 2016 #166
I know,the way things are is hard to bear. wendylaroux May 2016 #168
Hey, that sounds like a good idea... ReRe May 2016 #179
Appalling. It's also appalling to see Kissinger celebrated here, on DU as we'll. myrna minx May 2016 #169
Depressing. cali May 2016 #171
A 92 year old man. Old and feeble. Gomez163 May 2016 #173
You need to think about what you're saying. Age does not exonerate or ameliorate. cali May 2016 #176
He's never been charged with one crime. I'm not defending him. Gomez163 May 2016 #178
Nor has anyone charged Cheney or the Bush family. gordianot May 2016 #187
There is a reason why not. You may not like it. Gomez163 May 2016 #189
They try anyway failing that just shut down the Government. gordianot May 2016 #198
From the National Security Archives cali May 2016 #190
So you're defending him -nt Bradical79 May 2016 #207
Not defending him. I'm just correcting someone using the typical Gomez163 May 2016 #208
Stop defending a war criminal Bradical79 May 2016 #218
Please provide a link to a criminal conviction for Kissinger. Gomez163 May 2016 #220
Aaaaand you're still defending him -nt Bradical79 May 2016 #224
As I would defend anyone not convicted. Gomez163 May 2016 #225
Still would like to know why you're such a big fan of his Bradical79 May 2016 #228
No. I won't let crimes of a war criminal go. That's despicable. myrna minx May 2016 #236
Never been tried. Innocent until proven guilty Gomez163 May 2016 #237
OMG - do you even know who you're defending? I'm embarrassed for you. myrna minx May 2016 #238
The law is the law. You cant just make up charges. You accept as true that Gomez163 May 2016 #239
So this is what "Brocking the record" looks like. myrna minx May 2016 #240
You have no criminal conviction. Thank God he's not the suing type. Gomez163 May 2016 #241
Not falling for this. Im sorry that I took this exchange seriously at first. myrna minx May 2016 #243
Wow. Phlem May 2016 #257
+1 leftstreet May 2016 #211
Such horrible people :-( Bradical79 May 2016 #231
Glad i cannot see a single one of them. Duppers May 2016 #249
Let's see Clinton they think will be President and her buddy is now getting an award. bkkyosemite May 2016 #188
Yeah, absolutely disgusting Bradical79 May 2016 #206
The evidence does not support calling Kissinger a war criminal Progressive dog May 2016 #209
It sure does. That you're ignorant of history is not a rebuttal cali May 2016 #210
It sure doesn't, in the USA people are charged and convicted before Progressive dog May 2016 #216
The evidence is overwhelming. There are many links in this thread cali May 2016 #217
The evidence is overwhelming in your mind, Progressive dog May 2016 #222
No. It's in the National Security Archives. Link upthread cali May 2016 #229
You don't seem to understand what evidence actually is. Progressive dog May 2016 #234
Oh please. You are not refuting a thing. What a joke your posts are cali May 2016 #242
Truth is not about support cited, Progressive dog May 2016 #274
So, you support Kissinger's actions? You think what he did was OK?- nt Bradical79 May 2016 #230
When I'm on Kissinger's jury, Progressive dog May 2016 #233
Remember the rationalization for ignoring Bush & Cheyney era Dark n Stormy Knight May 2016 #212
DURec leftstreet May 2016 #213
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2016 #223
war is not Mutant456 May 2016 #232
That our Democratic president honors those who create and order acts of Genocide is telling of Dont call me Shirley May 2016 #235
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I don't even remotely worship my Senator. And are you so... that you can't understand cali May 2016 #245
Jury results cali May 2016 #246
Heck even ol Bill Cosby had a line on him (when I listened to him. his skits are okay , just he isn' PatrynXX May 2016 #250
Ego Te Absolvo GliderGuider May 2016 #252
I have a few things to say burrowowl May 2016 #256
Sounds like a lifetime achievement award aka Thank you for being at death's door award. nt Xipe Totec May 2016 #265
Kissinger Drew Up Plans to Attack Cuba neverforget May 2016 #266
Well, you know, he also called American torturers "patriots". So... cui bono May 2016 #267
Is Clinton going to be there? Smarmie Doofus May 2016 #276
Wow! Defending that piece of crap. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #280
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