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felix_numinous

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136. Republicans didn't disappear, they took over

Tue May 10, 2016, 01:07 PM

May 2016

the Democratic Party--now cementing and defining the Progressive Movement.

We now know who we are, and what we stand for--this for me is a very defining moment. Just as I have had to learn in my own life, rather than engage with destructive types, I need to recognize when it is time to move on and attend to my own needs. I am hoping that Progressives can go through this process of moving on QUICKLY as time is not on our side.

These New Republicans that call themselves Democrats have no desire whatsoever to be influenced by the left, so it is time to put energy elsewhere, and best if we leave them out of it.

Another lesson for us all--is to NEVER FORGET what sociopaths are capable of, to know what influence they have over others--they inspire cruelty and divisiveness and predatory behavior--all of which can be observed here on this very forum and thread for all to see. We have to learn not to be prey and to turn away to do our work.

Blessings and Peace

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Yesterday, the Obama administration did something horrifying. [View all] cali May 2016 OP

More: cali May 2016 #1

Don't forget the bombing of Laos. Manifestor_of_Light May 2016 #215

Yes, the extent of the bombing of Laos is truly sickening RufusTFirefly May 2016 #251

That is terrifying to even watch. nt. polly7 May 2016 #258

It's hard to fathom how people can be capable of such barbarism RufusTFirefly May 2016 #259

I just can't comprehend the mentality of anyone who could excuse polly7 May 2016 #260

I hope that neither of us knows that kind of person RufusTFirefly May 2016 #261

Yes, that is frightening. And you are probably right. polly7 May 2016 #262

Thanks Cali. peace13 May 2016 #2

Still waiting for a pardon of Gov. Don Siegleman who has been railroaded by Rove cohorts. bjobotts May 2016 #158

Yup. peace13 May 2016 #247

This is the kind of false fasttense May 2016 #165

Dear mr president, the Nobel people called tularetom May 2016 #3

And Kissinger's, too. Buzz Clik May 2016 #10

Carrying water for Kissinger now? Good grief. merrily May 2016 #76

Pointing out that he did win the Nobe Peace Prize is carrying water for him? FBaggins May 2016 #130

As if that post will simply mentioning, out of the blue, that Kissinger won a Nobel Prize. merrily May 2016 #197

Well, they haven't taken Kissinger's back. thesquanderer May 2016 #70

He never even had a chance to actually, you know, EARN it n/t arcane1 May 2016 #129

Apparently it's earned with drones and bombs.... lagomorph777 May 2016 #159

Is that an America Sux post or just an Obama Sux post? uhnope May 2016 #268

I would just like to try a Democrat for a while. lagomorph777 May 2016 #275

If that's a slapdown to Pres. Obama it is not well placed uhnope May 2016 #269

He got the prize before that, and Syria is a mess n/t arcane1 May 2016 #278

wait what? uhnope May 2016 #279

Once both parties agree to the notion of empire malaise May 2016 #4

I don't think that explains it fully cali May 2016 #5

Were it not so there would be several Western persons in prison malaise May 2016 #7

Keep working on it, cali. You need to get these people in line with the proper talking points. Buzz Clik May 2016 #11

Pitiful, Buzz. cali May 2016 #17

Yeah, my feeling, too. Oh-- you're talking about me? Buzz Clik May 2016 #59

This may be funny to you, but I don't find war crimes.amusing cali May 2016 #60

And here we go with the drama. Buzz Clik May 2016 #65

You seem determined to make yourself look cali May 2016 #68

haha GummyBearz May 2016 #98

Indeed. And making a good job of it. mr blur May 2016 #131

So, you're fine with what kissinger did. We get it. It matters not to you that this is who... ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #95

You have half of it correct: Buzz Clik May 2016 #104

What's beneath contempt is Hillary carousing with war criminals. But you don't care about that. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #108

Carousing? LOL! Buzz Clik May 2016 #110

I bet their cocktail parties are wildly entertaining. "You people"? Who, us real Democrats? nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #112

But that isn't why she looks up to him scscholar May 2016 #227

Henry fucking war-criminal Kissinger. polly7 May 2016 #111

Thank you for posting this geardaddy May 2016 #263

You're welcome! nt. polly7 May 2016 #264

You do realize they are friends, right? angrychair May 2016 #150

yes, they spend Christmas vacation with the Kissingers.. grasswire May 2016 #157

+1 nt Duval May 2016 #91

So, you are an admirer of Kissinger? Bettie May 2016 #72

If Hill loves you, that poster will love you - no matter what you did. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #96

The post wasn't even about Clinton Bettie May 2016 #100

while this action doesn't surprise me at all, it IS sickening Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #6

It sucks for someone pretending to be part of the Uber Democrat Elite to toss Obama under the bus. Buzz Clik May 2016 #12

Um, didn't he toss himself under the bus? Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #18

No, he did not toss himself under the bus. Only a "friend" can do that. Buzz Clik May 2016 #53

what "friend" are you referring to? Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #102

duh Buzz Clik May 2016 #106

Hmmm... I thought maybe you had some point that you wanted to get across Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #117

The point is trolling Gore1FL May 2016 #133

Criticizing this is not about throwing Obama under the.bus. cali May 2016 #19

Read your OP. It doesn't stop at criticism. Buzz Clik May 2016 #54

best to just realize some people are prone to histrionics uhnope May 2016 #273

This is what happens when you treat politicians like reality TV stars. frylock May 2016 #119

K & R Mbrow May 2016 #8

The total demonization of Kissinger is crucial to the Berners. CRITICAL! Buzz Clik May 2016 #9

....... Hotler May 2016 #13

It's no plot -- it's a ritual. Buzz Clik May 2016 #14

Pathetic. This is about celebrating a man responsible for the death and suffering cali May 2016 #23

Pathetic? I avoided using that word in reference to you... Buzz Clik May 2016 #56

Oh poor victim Buzz. Ugh. cali May 2016 #64

Oh fuck no. I know exactly how insulting you are when I respond to you. Eyes wide open. Buzz Clik May 2016 #67

I don't see you as an adversary at all. cali May 2016 #69

Lol, you have to be joking. You are neither! Nt Logical May 2016 #74

Keep digging Buzz LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #137

This has nothing to do with bernie cali May 2016 #16

funny Locrian May 2016 #25

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Try this: google "clinton kissinger site:democraticunderground.com" Buzz Clik May 2016 #57

You sure are butthurt as of late. nt Gore1FL May 2016 #134

All you've done is make a fool of yourself Bradical79 May 2016 #204

Hey ya go, Ace: Buzz Clik May 2016 #221

And right on cue, here it comes: the Hillary's Mentor thread. Buzz Clik May 2016 #92

Are you freaking serious? Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #20

Alas, the poster is serious and represents many Hillary supporters. cali May 2016 #21

that's pretty sad Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #22

It is. And it's an unhealthy p perspective. cali May 2016 #24

He has over 11 hides Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #51

not surprising that some are privileged here. wildbilln864 May 2016 #103

it's definitely a conspiracy. uhnope May 2016 #270

Hillary supporters on DU are super-users, w/unlimited hide allowances, apparently, closeupready May 2016 #175

Post removed Post removed May 2016 #194

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Orrex May 2016 #271

I heard they can make your computer slow down if they want, too uhnope May 2016 #272

Have you even read any history? Ever? A little bit? Jester Messiah May 2016 #27

Kissinger was a war criminal long before Clinton. blackspade May 2016 #29

The "Demonization" of Kissinger is of his own making rpannier May 2016 #31

Nothing is critical here, sulphurdunn May 2016 #33

We are to ignore the death of millions because .... Hillary? bread_and_roses May 2016 #34

Good to see you, even in this thread. cali May 2016 #35

Thanks cali bread_and_roses May 2016 #66

Same here newfie11 May 2016 #52

I believed Kissinger was evil before I ever heard of the Clintons Generic Other May 2016 #36

Wow, now you must defend Kissinger. zeemike May 2016 #37

Hey, hill fans say Bernie is a war criminal just like Kissinger! cali May 2016 #46

Demonizing.... IDemo May 2016 #48

Whatever it takes.....including glorifying a war criminal...... SammyWinstonJack May 2016 #61

What a weird response Scootaloo May 2016 #81

And the reclamation of Kissinger is critical to Hillary. Good luck with that! Doctor_J May 2016 #139

Kissinger was the bad guy since the 60's. Nothing to with Hillary. This is about America harun May 2016 #172

Ok folks, shows over, no way we can top this post Lordquinton May 2016 #195

What the fucking hell? Hissyspit May 2016 #253

recall mtasselin May 2016 #15

Your new 3rd-Way Democratic Party, ladies and gentlemen. Jester Messiah May 2016 #26

+1 chwaliszewski May 2016 #32

+1! KPN May 2016 #101

I'm still blown away by anyone connecting this to the primary election. cali May 2016 #28

You Said It Liberal_Dog May 2016 #85

It is important for us not to feel too sanctimonious. Alkene May 2016 #30

And puffy socks May 2016 #38

Fuck. You really are something else. Ugh. cali May 2016 #39

And TRUE puffy socks May 2016 #41

No. It's a bald and vile lie. You are exhibiting either shocking ignorance or shocking cali May 2016 #44

Post Primary season is going to be a BLAST LOL snooper2 May 2016 #63

So now Kissinger will be off limits? The fux? Kittycat May 2016 #146

Lame and off topic. truebluegreen May 2016 #43

Aw puffy socks May 2016 #47

Fuck knows why I'm going to try. Forget everything but Kissinger for a minute cali May 2016 #50

Cut him some slack. Fuddnik May 2016 #80

Cali, he calls him self "socks" passiveporcupine May 2016 #199

Post removed Post removed May 2016 #58

Kissinger is full of hatred for everyone! Silver_Witch May 2016 #71

If you are one of Brock's army, your work on this thread is not worth your salary karynnj May 2016 #77

Are you friggin kidding me? KPN May 2016 #105

Planet Brock n/t arcane1 May 2016 #128

The deaths due to Bernie votes dont count puffy socks May 2016 #201

You have removed all doubt. Ugh. Particularly putrid big lie. Shame, shame, shame on YOU. cali May 2016 #202

Nobody died in Somalia puffy socks May 2016 #203

You are surpassingly clueless. Your posts in this thread disgusting. Shame, shame shame. cali May 2016 #205

Answer the question.. puffy socks May 2016 #214

Let's see, a member of DU since April 19 (less than 3 weeks)! KPN May 2016 #219

If you refuse to answer the question and ignore it puffy socks May 2016 #226

Yep. That's our puffy. cali May 2016 #248

The question is a lie in itself, inferring that Bernie is uniquely responsible for those deaths cali May 2016 #277

Blood libel nonsense n/t Scootaloo May 2016 #78

What a ridiculous claim ... Trajan May 2016 #87

Well, if the posts in this thread are dgibby May 2016 #167

would you agree that sharing responsibility is very different from being a main driver of Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #115

Member since: Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:16 PM frylock May 2016 #120

Another moronic statement from the mid-April club. arcane1 May 2016 #127

278 posts. Which rock did you reside under before you decided to attack Bernie? nt thereismore May 2016 #141

Yes. Bernie Sanders = Henry Kissinger. Right. Hissyspit May 2016 #254

This is the same President who said we weren't going to prosecute the war crimes of the Bush Admin. Ford_Prefect May 2016 #40

Comparing Bernie to Kissinger is hateful and deranged. It proves the point made in the op. cali May 2016 #42

Who could be so mind-bogglingly stupid to suggest Bernie Sanders and Henry Kissinger are similar? Maedhros May 2016 #121

I think it's more petty spite than stupidity cali May 2016 #122

k&r nationalize the fed May 2016 #45

You are correct pmorlan1 May 2016 #73

What happened to Buzz(whatever's) posts? They were disgusting. mikehiggins May 2016 #49

the party's been boiled down to a cult: Bush/Trump's bad because he's like Kissinger MisterP May 2016 #75

+1000 k and r's if I could!!! 7wo7rees May 2016 #84

not surprising at all,members of the war club honoring each other. wendylaroux May 2016 #55

I really get all kinds of P/O when this kind of ish happens but... Stellar May 2016 #62

Why can't the thread just be about our president honoring a war criminal? Why mucifer May 2016 #79

Because Hillary also considers Kissinger a mentor. alarimer May 2016 #144

There's no words to describe my disgust that anyone would try rehabilitating Kissingers reputation riderinthestorm May 2016 #82

+1 jwirr May 2016 #109

I'm disgusted. zentrum May 2016 #83

Kissinger is scum of the earth. nt JEB May 2016 #86

Washington consensus I Bought the Law May 2016 #88

Interesting thread, should go with this one: malthaussen May 2016 #89

Well, Cali... R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #90

I don't agree, Daneel cali May 2016 #93

A die is a die, Cali. Perhaps killing civillians in the fight R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #118

Nuance in this, is a prerequisite. cali May 2016 #123

Murder is murder. R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #140

I will though. I don't think all acts of murder are on the same plane. cali May 2016 #145

One can't be a little pregnant. R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #148

If we launch a Hellfire missile at a 'terrorist', and we know that innocent people in the vicinity Maedhros May 2016 #281

How would US citizens act if it were Mexico launching R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #285

We would be carpet-bombing within a week.[n/t] Maedhros May 2016 #287

Do you consider killing someone in self defense murder? passiveporcupine May 2016 #282

What we are doing is not self-defence. R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #286

While I agree that it is not the same as direct and imminent self defense, passiveporcupine May 2016 #288

the real thing the obama administration did yesterday was amazing. La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #94

Excellent point hueymahl May 2016 #97

Yes, that was great. Jarringly at.odds with this. cali May 2016 #113

K & R !!! to the Max... Thespian2 May 2016 #99

appalled, but not surprised. niyad May 2016 #107

Actually, among Kissinger's many war crimes . . FairWinds May 2016 #114

+1,000,000. nt. polly7 May 2016 #132

Not a Kissinger lover myself but radical noodle May 2016 #196

The K man personally knew the war was lost . . FairWinds May 2016 #289

Kissinger, the Dulles boys, Ivy League, Oxford, etc...all really smart boys who played islandmkl May 2016 #116

We forget sometimes because Repubs are so loud and scary--They are really DUMB. n/t librechik May 2016 #125

A murderous psychopath... gregcrawford May 2016 #124

But, but he's a DEMOCRAT!!! Blue No Matter Who!! Democrats can't do bad things!!!11 arcane1 May 2016 #126

did the part where he overlooked all the Bush Inc. war criminals not give you a clue? Skittles May 2016 #135

Obama toasts Poppy Bush: 'We are surely a kinder and gentler nation because of you' Octafish May 2016 #142

Republicans didn't disappear, they took over felix_numinous May 2016 #136

don't think it's a repub. thing or a dem thing,it's a rich thing. Oligarchy is here. wendylaroux May 2016 #151

Those who align with the sociopathic oligarchy felix_numinous May 2016 #153

Kissinger needs to be "normalized" so he can openly advise & mentor Hillary's endless wars. nt 99th_Monkey May 2016 #138

Mr. President, I am changing my avatar of you and Bernie to just Bernie. nt thereismore May 2016 #143

Wow, Hillary's SoS is all scrubbed, fresh, and ready. lagomorph777 May 2016 #147

oh god... what a thought Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #155

Kinda like honoring John Dillinger for his efforts to remove paper and metal from banks. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #149

Dillinger was actually convicted of a crime. Gomez163 May 2016 #180

Unfortunately, Kissinger hasn't been convicted of his many crimes. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #185

A point that should be heeded but is not. Gomez163 May 2016 #186

You've only been here two months passiveporcupine May 2016 #283

Bernie juries. I wuz railroaded Gomez163 May 2016 #284

Couldn't agree more. Utterly repellent but bjo59 May 2016 #152

The nature of the diplomatic world is that you have to associate with scoundrels. Gomez163 May 2016 #154

just stop,no excuse for this.makes you sound awful. wendylaroux May 2016 #160

Awful to a full moon true believer. You cant be in government and be like that. Gomez163 May 2016 #162

This person is a war criminal murderer,looks like you are the full moon true believer. wendylaroux May 2016 #163

You see in this country, you're innocent until proven guilty. Gomez163 May 2016 #170

Absolutely disgusting. nt. polly7 May 2016 #174

I guess things work differently in Canada. Gomez163 May 2016 #177

I'm glad you don't too. polly7 May 2016 #181

You need to be careful. They can sue you for defamation and would win hands down. Gomez163 May 2016 #182

lmfao. polly7 May 2016 #183

Means nothing. If you think he's a crook - call the cops. Gomez163 May 2016 #184

How is that going to help the millions he slaughtered? nt. polly7 May 2016 #191

Calling him names wont help either. Gomez163 May 2016 #192

I call people who've lied and deceived to slaughter millions - evil, ugly, warmongering criminals. polly7 May 2016 #193

And fail miserably cali May 2016 #200

Kissinger is not merely a scoundrel. And celebrating someone is cali May 2016 #164

Associate with "scoundrels" indeed. bjo59 May 2016 #255

Whhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaat? ReRe May 2016 #156

And H is to the right of him! wendylaroux May 2016 #161

Yup... ReRe May 2016 #166

I know,the way things are is hard to bear. wendylaroux May 2016 #168

Hey, that sounds like a good idea... ReRe May 2016 #179

Appalling. It's also appalling to see Kissinger celebrated here, on DU as we'll. myrna minx May 2016 #169

Depressing. cali May 2016 #171

A 92 year old man. Old and feeble. Gomez163 May 2016 #173

You need to think about what you're saying. Age does not exonerate or ameliorate. cali May 2016 #176

He's never been charged with one crime. I'm not defending him. Gomez163 May 2016 #178

Nor has anyone charged Cheney or the Bush family. gordianot May 2016 #187

There is a reason why not. You may not like it. Gomez163 May 2016 #189

They try anyway failing that just shut down the Government. gordianot May 2016 #198

From the National Security Archives cali May 2016 #190

So you're defending him -nt Bradical79 May 2016 #207

Not defending him. I'm just correcting someone using the typical Gomez163 May 2016 #208

Stop defending a war criminal Bradical79 May 2016 #218

Please provide a link to a criminal conviction for Kissinger. Gomez163 May 2016 #220

Aaaaand you're still defending him -nt Bradical79 May 2016 #224

As I would defend anyone not convicted. Gomez163 May 2016 #225

Still would like to know why you're such a big fan of his Bradical79 May 2016 #228

No. I won't let crimes of a war criminal go. That's despicable. myrna minx May 2016 #236

Never been tried. Innocent until proven guilty Gomez163 May 2016 #237

OMG - do you even know who you're defending? I'm embarrassed for you. myrna minx May 2016 #238

The law is the law. You cant just make up charges. You accept as true that Gomez163 May 2016 #239

So this is what "Brocking the record" looks like. myrna minx May 2016 #240

You have no criminal conviction. Thank God he's not the suing type. Gomez163 May 2016 #241

Not falling for this. Im sorry that I took this exchange seriously at first. myrna minx May 2016 #243

Wow. Phlem May 2016 #257

+1 leftstreet May 2016 #211

Such horrible people :-( Bradical79 May 2016 #231

Glad i cannot see a single one of them. Duppers May 2016 #249

Let's see Clinton they think will be President and her buddy is now getting an award. bkkyosemite May 2016 #188

Yeah, absolutely disgusting Bradical79 May 2016 #206

The evidence does not support calling Kissinger a war criminal Progressive dog May 2016 #209

It sure does. That you're ignorant of history is not a rebuttal cali May 2016 #210

It sure doesn't, in the USA people are charged and convicted before Progressive dog May 2016 #216

The evidence is overwhelming. There are many links in this thread cali May 2016 #217

The evidence is overwhelming in your mind, Progressive dog May 2016 #222

No. It's in the National Security Archives. Link upthread cali May 2016 #229

You don't seem to understand what evidence actually is. Progressive dog May 2016 #234

Oh please. You are not refuting a thing. What a joke your posts are cali May 2016 #242

Truth is not about support cited, Progressive dog May 2016 #274

So, you support Kissinger's actions? You think what he did was OK?- nt Bradical79 May 2016 #230

When I'm on Kissinger's jury, Progressive dog May 2016 #233

Remember the rationalization for ignoring Bush & Cheyney era Dark n Stormy Knight May 2016 #212

DURec leftstreet May 2016 #213

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2016 #223

war is not Mutant456 May 2016 #232

That our Democratic president honors those who create and order acts of Genocide is telling of Dont call me Shirley May 2016 #235

Post removed Post removed May 2016 #244

I don't even remotely worship my Senator. And are you so... that you can't understand cali May 2016 #245

Jury results cali May 2016 #246

Heck even ol Bill Cosby had a line on him (when I listened to him. his skits are okay , just he isn' PatrynXX May 2016 #250

Ego Te Absolvo GliderGuider May 2016 #252

I have a few things to say burrowowl May 2016 #256

Sounds like a lifetime achievement award aka Thank you for being at death's door award. nt Xipe Totec May 2016 #265

Kissinger Drew Up Plans to Attack Cuba neverforget May 2016 #266

Well, you know, he also called American torturers "patriots". So... cui bono May 2016 #267

Is Clinton going to be there? Smarmie Doofus May 2016 #276

Wow! Defending that piece of crap. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #280