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In reply to the discussion: Facts about Libya under Gaddafi that you probably did not know about ! [View all]hueymahl
(2,529 posts)163. Really??? A puff piece about a confirmed terrorist and murderer?
What the fuck is wrong with you people who rec'd this 83 times (and counting)?
From your same wikipedia link:
In 1971 Gaddafi warned that if France opposes Libyan military occupation of Chad, he will use all weapons in the war against France including the "revolutionary weapon".[47] On 11 June 1972, Gaddafi announced that any Arab wishing to volunteer for Palestinian terrorist groups "can register his name at any Libyan embassy will be given adequate training for combat". He also promised financial support for attacks.[68] On 7 October 1972, Gaddafi praised the Lod Airport massacre, executed by the communist Japanese Red Army, and demanded Palestinian terrorist groups to carry out similar attacks.[68]
Reportedly, Gaddafi was a major financier of the "Black September Movement" which perpetrated the Munich massacre at the 1972 Summer Olympics.[2] In 1973 the Irish Naval Service intercepted the vessel Claudia in Irish territorial waters, which carried Soviet arms from Libya to the Provisional IRA.[69][70] In 1976 after a series of terror activities by the Provisional IRA, Gaddafi announced that "the bombs which are convulsing Britain and breaking its spirit are the bombs of Libyan people. We have sent them to the Irish revolutionaries so that the British will pay the price for their past deeds".[68]
In the Philippines, Libya backed the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, which continues to carry out acts of violence in an effort to establish a separatist Islamic state in the southern Philippines.[71] Libya has also supported the New People's Army[72] and Libyan agents were seen meeting with the Communist Party of the Philippines.[73] Islamist terrorist group Abu Sayyaf has also been suspected of receiving Libyan funding.[74]
Gaddafi also became a strong supporter of the Palestine Liberation Organization, which support ultimately harmed Libya's relations with Egypt, when in 1979 Egypt pursued a peace agreement with Israel. As Libya's relations with Egypt worsened, Gaddafi sought closer relations with the Soviet Union. Libya became the first country outside the Soviet bloc to receive the supersonic MiG-25 combat fighters, but Soviet-Libyan relations remained relatively distant. Gaddafi also sought to increase Libyan influence, especially in states with an Islamic population, by calling for the creation of a Saharan Islamic state and supporting anti-government forces in sub-Saharan Africa.
In the 1970s and the 1980s, this support was sometimes so freely given that even the most unsympathetic groups could obtain Libyan support; often the groups represented ideologies far removed from Gaddafi's own. Gaddafi's approach often tended to confuse international opinion.
In October 1981 Egypt's President Anwar Sadat was assassinated. Gaddafi applauded the murder and remarked that it was a "punishment".[75]
In December 1981, the US State Department invalidated US passports for travel to Libya, and in March 1982, the U.S. declared a ban on the import of Libyan oil.[76]
Gaddafi reportedly spent hundreds of millions of the government's money on training and arming Sandinistas in Nicaragua.[77] Daniel Ortega, the President of Nicaragua, was his ally.
In April 1984, Libyan refugees in London protested against execution of two dissidents. Communications intercepted by MI5 show that Tripoli ordered its diplomats to direct violence against the demonstrators. Libyan diplomats shot at 11 people and killed British policewoman Yvonne Fletcher. The incident led to the breaking off of diplomatic relations between the United Kingdom and Libya for over a decade.[78]
After December 1985 Rome and Vienna airport attacks, which killed 19 and wounded around 140, Gaddafi indicated that he would continue to support the Red Army Faction, the Red Brigades, and the Irish Republican Army as long as European countries support anti-Gaddafi Libyans.[79] The Foreign Minister of Libya also called the massacres "heroic acts".[80]
In 1986, Libyan state television announced that Libya was training suicide squads to attack American and European interests.[81]
On 5 April 1986, Libyan agents were alleged with bombing the "La Belle" nightclub in West Berlin, killing three people and injuring 229 people who were spending evening there. Gaddafi's plan was intercepted by Western intelligence. More-detailed information was retrieved years later when Stasi archives were investigated by the reunited Germany. Libyan agents who had carried out the operation from the Libyan embassy in East Germany were prosecuted by reunited Germany in the 1990s.[82]
In May 1987, Australia broke off relations with Libya because of its role in fueling violence in Oceania.[72][83][84]
Under Gaddafi, Libya had a long history of supporting the Irish Republican Army. In late 1987 French authorities stopped a merchant vessel, the MV Eksund, which was delivering a 150-ton Libyan arms shipment to the IRA.[85] In Britain, Gaddafi's best-known political subsidiary is the Workers Revolutionary Party.[84][86]
Gaddafi fueled a number of Islamist and communist groups in the Philippines, including the New People's Army of the Communist Party of the Philippines and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front.[25][71][72][74][79]
In Indonesia, the Free Aceh Movement was a Libyan-backed militant group.[87] Vanuatu's ruling party enjoyed Libyan support.[72]
In New Zealand, Libya attempted to radicalize Māoris.[72]
In Australia, there were several cases of attempted radicalisation of Australian Aborigines, with individuals receiving paramilitary training in Libya. Libya put several left-wing unions on the Libyan payroll, such as the Food Preservers Union (FPU) and the Federated Confectioners Association of Australia (FCA). Labour Party politician Bill Hartley, the secretary of Libya-Australia friendship society, was long-term supporter of Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein.[72][83][84]
In the 1980s, the Libyan government purchased advertisements in Arabic-language newspapers in Australia asking for Australian Arabs to join the military units of his worldwide struggle against imperialism. In part, because of this, Australia banned recruitment of foreign mercenaries in Australia.[84]
Gaddafi developed a relationship with the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, becoming acquainted with its leaders in meetings of revolutionary groups regularly hosted in Libya.[51][58]
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Facts about Libya under Gaddafi that you probably did not know about ! [View all]
PufPuf23
May 2016
OP
install client regimes that will subordinate the country’s wealth and labor to imperialist corporate
arcane1
May 2016
#1
Gadaffi was involved in a lot of military adventures in other North African countries.
Nitram
May 2016
#70
Gadaffi and every bullet point in your OP simply did NOT fit Hillary Clinton's business plan.
CentralCoaster
May 2016
#71
It's what NeoLiberals call "Humanitarian intervention". Funny how sufferring is actually much worse
newthinking
May 2016
#138
And what do you know about the suffering that wopuld have occired if Gaddafi had been left to...
Nitram
May 2016
#178
You of course, have an objective and peer-reviewed source to support your allegation, yes?
LanternWaste
May 2016
#187
"That's all of American history, summed up in a single sentence." I thought this was?
Glassunion
May 2016
#20
Maybe that's why Saint Hillary of Walmart wanted to get Ghaddafi out of the way:
Betty Karlson
May 2016
#161
Huh? Gadaffi was removed and killed in 2011 under the Obama Administration with Clinton SOS.
PufPuf23
May 2016
#9
How can one argue that in total the people and women of Libya are far worse off now and live in
PufPuf23
May 2016
#23
She is perhaps the most horrible democratic canddate in my lifetime of 72 years...
pangaia
May 2016
#99
A lot of our actions seem to be around fears of losing control of the monetary system (competition)
newthinking
May 2016
#139
Or maybe Hillary wanted to install a client regime to subordinate the country’s wealth...
ChisolmTrailDem
May 2016
#18
The Libyan opposition were expat groups aligned with fundamentalist muslim groups
newthinking
May 2016
#141
Thanks Polly. I also posted a link about it. Most of the so called "arab springs" were not really
newthinking
May 2016
#143
I don't think life in Libya was quite the utopian experience as described above.
LonePirate
May 2016
#16
It wasn't too shabby either: Libya had the highest standard of living in Africa under Gadaffi
CJCRANE
May 2016
#21
What is the matter with you that you support what happened to the common people who live in Libya?
PufPuf23
May 2016
#27
From Africa’s Wealthiest Democracy Under Gaddafi to Terrorist Haven After US Intervention
polly7
May 2016
#28
"Democracy"? "US-led bombing campaign"? Try "dictatorship" and "French-led bombing campaign". nt
ieoeja
May 2016
#89
Sigh. Criticizing the NATO led bombing is not synonymous with whitewashing Gaddafi.
cali
May 2016
#190
Reductio ad absurdum is valid rhetoric. It is NOT a fallacy. . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2016
#157
Pinochet? The guy Nixon, Kissinger and CIA installed as a model for USA's future?
Octafish
May 2016
#43
Clinton was against Gaddafi, therefore DUers need to find excuses to be for him.
Donald Ian Rankin
May 2016
#81
Mussolini was a competent administrator. The first Kim was a hero in the fight against Japan.
ieoeja
May 2016
#100
All my adult life I have watched these foreign interventions in slow motion knowing that,
PufPuf23
May 2016
#61
Thank you for this incredible post. What we did to Libya is such a war crime.
FighttheFuture
May 2016
#104
For a Dictator, he was doing a great job of making life better for Libya's neighbors, too.
Octafish
May 2016
#47
that individuals and corporations and others try to profit off this shit, is fact
cali
May 2016
#189
So? If CNN did not at least in part respect the document, why continue to carry it on their website
PufPuf23
May 2016
#69
Several times in this thread I have stated I regarded Gadaffi a dictator but deliberately
PufPuf23
May 2016
#78
The main point I meant to make in this thread is that the common people of Libya
PufPuf23
May 2016
#112
You are conflating lots of things. Bottom line: Qaddafi was a greedy dictator
Albertoo
May 2016
#123
Not to excuse the unnecessary intervention, but some of these "facts" sound too good to be true.
TacoD
May 2016
#122
I am disappointed by those at DU that spin that because Gadaffi was an asshole
PufPuf23
May 2016
#127
Agree the points were incomplete initiatives and serve as anti-intervention propoganda.
PufPuf23
May 2016
#142
Yes, it was a classic oil state dictatorship. The government bought the loyalty of the people with
Zynx
May 2016
#146
I have made at least 10 posts in this thread stating the intent of this OP is
PufPuf23
May 2016
#150
"... it turned out well enough, eventually." < If you are white, perhaps. For a person of color, or
jtuck004
May 2016
#192
Given that your OP is a 16 bullet point plus extolling of the virtues of Gadaffi....
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2016
#164
I think if you repeat it all about 10 more times you are certain to have a great impact.
jtuck004
May 2016
#193
And, and then there's that little human rights issue and sponsoring terrorism
Feeling the Bern
May 2016
#158
I spoke about this numerous time right here at DU several years ago...before Obama was
Jitter65
May 2016
#162
It's the same sort of binary thinking you saw when people praised Putin a few years back.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2016
#166
Look at history. Gadaffi had renounced terrorism and was attempting to modernize Libya and
PufPuf23
May 2016
#199
Gadaffi is a tyrant who fleeced his country and murdered his citizens. He is the ultimate 1% asshat
hueymahl
May 2016
#201
My own idea of a socialist paradise would be closer to the Scandinavian countries
bhikkhu
May 2016
#169
Its pretty obvious to everyone now that this is the wrong way..or is it?
LiberalLovinLug
May 2016
#179
Yes, Pan Am 103 over Lockerbie 270 dead and his treatment of the Libyan people?
Lady_Chat
May 2016
#188
Gadaffi had renounced terroism, turned over perps for prosecution, and was paying damages to victims
PufPuf23
May 2016
#194
I did read the ridiculous OP. I regret wasting my time on this shameless Qaddafi apologia.
SunSeeker
May 2016
#208