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In reply to the discussion: Facts about Libya under Gaddafi that you probably did not know about ! [View all]Tommy_Carcetti
(43,265 posts)166. It's the same sort of binary thinking you saw when people praised Putin a few years back.
"X criticized US policy, so let's get behind X."
Very few people, if any, here at DU believe the US and US foreign policy is beyond reproach or criticism. I certainly don't. However, can we please not hop onto the bandwagon of anyone who might have stood in the way of US foreign policy is automatically a good authority or sainted or what have you?
It's Catherina nonsense and it's embarrassing.
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Facts about Libya under Gaddafi that you probably did not know about ! [View all]
PufPuf23
May 2016
OP
install client regimes that will subordinate the country’s wealth and labor to imperialist corporate
arcane1
May 2016
#1
Gadaffi was involved in a lot of military adventures in other North African countries.
Nitram
May 2016
#70
Gadaffi and every bullet point in your OP simply did NOT fit Hillary Clinton's business plan.
CentralCoaster
May 2016
#71
It's what NeoLiberals call "Humanitarian intervention". Funny how sufferring is actually much worse
newthinking
May 2016
#138
And what do you know about the suffering that wopuld have occired if Gaddafi had been left to...
Nitram
May 2016
#178
You of course, have an objective and peer-reviewed source to support your allegation, yes?
LanternWaste
May 2016
#187
"That's all of American history, summed up in a single sentence." I thought this was?
Glassunion
May 2016
#20
Maybe that's why Saint Hillary of Walmart wanted to get Ghaddafi out of the way:
Betty Karlson
May 2016
#161
Huh? Gadaffi was removed and killed in 2011 under the Obama Administration with Clinton SOS.
PufPuf23
May 2016
#9
How can one argue that in total the people and women of Libya are far worse off now and live in
PufPuf23
May 2016
#23
She is perhaps the most horrible democratic canddate in my lifetime of 72 years...
pangaia
May 2016
#99
A lot of our actions seem to be around fears of losing control of the monetary system (competition)
newthinking
May 2016
#139
Or maybe Hillary wanted to install a client regime to subordinate the country’s wealth...
ChisolmTrailDem
May 2016
#18
The Libyan opposition were expat groups aligned with fundamentalist muslim groups
newthinking
May 2016
#141
Thanks Polly. I also posted a link about it. Most of the so called "arab springs" were not really
newthinking
May 2016
#143
I don't think life in Libya was quite the utopian experience as described above.
LonePirate
May 2016
#16
It wasn't too shabby either: Libya had the highest standard of living in Africa under Gadaffi
CJCRANE
May 2016
#21
What is the matter with you that you support what happened to the common people who live in Libya?
PufPuf23
May 2016
#27
From Africa’s Wealthiest Democracy Under Gaddafi to Terrorist Haven After US Intervention
polly7
May 2016
#28
"Democracy"? "US-led bombing campaign"? Try "dictatorship" and "French-led bombing campaign". nt
ieoeja
May 2016
#89
Sigh. Criticizing the NATO led bombing is not synonymous with whitewashing Gaddafi.
cali
May 2016
#190
Reductio ad absurdum is valid rhetoric. It is NOT a fallacy. . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2016
#157
Pinochet? The guy Nixon, Kissinger and CIA installed as a model for USA's future?
Octafish
May 2016
#43
Clinton was against Gaddafi, therefore DUers need to find excuses to be for him.
Donald Ian Rankin
May 2016
#81
Mussolini was a competent administrator. The first Kim was a hero in the fight against Japan.
ieoeja
May 2016
#100
All my adult life I have watched these foreign interventions in slow motion knowing that,
PufPuf23
May 2016
#61
Thank you for this incredible post. What we did to Libya is such a war crime.
FighttheFuture
May 2016
#104
For a Dictator, he was doing a great job of making life better for Libya's neighbors, too.
Octafish
May 2016
#47
that individuals and corporations and others try to profit off this shit, is fact
cali
May 2016
#189
So? If CNN did not at least in part respect the document, why continue to carry it on their website
PufPuf23
May 2016
#69
Several times in this thread I have stated I regarded Gadaffi a dictator but deliberately
PufPuf23
May 2016
#78
The main point I meant to make in this thread is that the common people of Libya
PufPuf23
May 2016
#112
You are conflating lots of things. Bottom line: Qaddafi was a greedy dictator
Albertoo
May 2016
#123
Not to excuse the unnecessary intervention, but some of these "facts" sound too good to be true.
TacoD
May 2016
#122
I am disappointed by those at DU that spin that because Gadaffi was an asshole
PufPuf23
May 2016
#127
Agree the points were incomplete initiatives and serve as anti-intervention propoganda.
PufPuf23
May 2016
#142
Yes, it was a classic oil state dictatorship. The government bought the loyalty of the people with
Zynx
May 2016
#146
I have made at least 10 posts in this thread stating the intent of this OP is
PufPuf23
May 2016
#150
"... it turned out well enough, eventually." < If you are white, perhaps. For a person of color, or
jtuck004
May 2016
#192
Given that your OP is a 16 bullet point plus extolling of the virtues of Gadaffi....
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2016
#164
I think if you repeat it all about 10 more times you are certain to have a great impact.
jtuck004
May 2016
#193
And, and then there's that little human rights issue and sponsoring terrorism
Feeling the Bern
May 2016
#158
I spoke about this numerous time right here at DU several years ago...before Obama was
Jitter65
May 2016
#162
It's the same sort of binary thinking you saw when people praised Putin a few years back.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2016
#166
Look at history. Gadaffi had renounced terrorism and was attempting to modernize Libya and
PufPuf23
May 2016
#199
Gadaffi is a tyrant who fleeced his country and murdered his citizens. He is the ultimate 1% asshat
hueymahl
May 2016
#201
My own idea of a socialist paradise would be closer to the Scandinavian countries
bhikkhu
May 2016
#169
Its pretty obvious to everyone now that this is the wrong way..or is it?
LiberalLovinLug
May 2016
#179
Yes, Pan Am 103 over Lockerbie 270 dead and his treatment of the Libyan people?
Lady_Chat
May 2016
#188
Gadaffi had renounced terroism, turned over perps for prosecution, and was paying damages to victims
PufPuf23
May 2016
#194
I did read the ridiculous OP. I regret wasting my time on this shameless Qaddafi apologia.
SunSeeker
May 2016
#208