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21. I don't think that Trump can win the POTUS election because Hillary Clinton is the

Sun May 15, 2016, 11:37 AM

May 2016

choice of the sane GOP, specifically, the big money big military that supported the Bushes and Reagan.

One will see a bias in the election process in favor of Hillary Clinton like observed in the 2000 election, the 2004 election, and the 2016 Democratic primaries.

If a miracle occurs, Bernie Sanders will readily beat Trump.

However, if something occurs that stops Clinton within the Democratic party I would expect the DNC and Democratic party leadership to try and probably succeed in nominating someone other than Sanders.

I am not convinced Trump actually wants to be POTUS. Trump may well be simply a stalking horse for Hillary Clinton.

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Will you be shocked or even surprised if Dirty Donny wins the general election? [View all] cali May 2016 OP

Nope. n/t AirmensMom May 2016 #1

i like it: Dirty Donny with the small hands and the kidlike personality MariaThinks May 2016 #39

Dirty Donny Smallhands mainstreetonce May 2016 #43

No. We don't need to stoop to these levels of ridicule. libdem4life May 2016 #76

No. cyberswede May 2016 #2

What I really fear is something built into the Constitution... Wounded Bear May 2016 #3

No, I won't be surprised because it isn't 1964 anymore. no_hypocrisy May 2016 #4

Yes. It is extremely hard for any Repub to win a national election underpants May 2016 #5

I keep changing my mind. If voting were done honestly, Trump would lose. patricia92243 May 2016 #6

THIS! nt tblue37 May 2016 #13

All-GOP controlled states outnumber all-Democratic states 24-7 Loudestlib May 2016 #61

Lol... Mass even has a republican governor. Agschmid May 2016 #126

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #120

She certainly isn't winning fans with the cheating Kittycat May 2016 #128

Nope Katashi_itto May 2016 #7

Nope. I don't believe that independants will vote R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #8

Or vote Green. AngryOldDem May 2016 #17

I'm starting to see a lot of Jill Stein reposts on my FB feed. (sigh) Mother Of Four May 2016 #148

Among my son's IRL and online friends, this is what they will do. AngryOldDem May 2016 #150

I think that if there is a down ballot candidate to vote for then they will probably go Green. LiberalArkie May 2016 #19

Agreed. Shadowflash May 2016 #62

Not at all, I bet he wins. There won't be any real problems with their convention doc03 May 2016 #9

At this point, I expect Trump to win left-of-center2012 May 2016 #10

Fear, yes. Surprised? Not really nearly enough. JHB May 2016 #11

I will be shocked because of math titaniumsalute May 2016 #12

Or Turin_C3PO May 2016 #70

Unfortunately Latinos vote overwhelmingly for Trump avg is 45 -60% riderinthestorm May 2016 #71

I'd love to see your data titaniumsalute May 2016 #81

Just Google it. There's a lot of links. Here's a few riderinthestorm May 2016 #87

You are sounding like a shill for the right-wing my friend titaniumsalute May 2016 #98

I agree sounds like a shill rockfordfile May 2016 #125

Among REPUBLICAN Latinos. Those data parse a tiny portion only. whatthehey May 2016 #158

Republican primary Latinos vote for Trump Nevernose May 2016 #114

Horrified but not shocked. MH1 May 2016 #14

Nope. Not at all. AngryOldDem May 2016 #15

As America descends into Idiocracy, Trump becomes the more viable winner in 2016. Also, IMO, RKP5637 May 2016 #136

Nope. truebrit71 May 2016 #16

Only a metric -none May 2016 #37

I think about 1/2 of the US is comprised of raging fools when they vote! n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #138

Anything is possible. malthaussen May 2016 #18

agree exactly 6chars May 2016 #54

I won't be surprised. I will be shocked. Hayduke Bomgarte May 2016 #20

I don't think that Trump can win the POTUS election because Hillary Clinton is the PufPuf23 May 2016 #21

I believe you are 100 percent correct yourpaljoey May 2016 #46

If your victory plan requires a large number of the opposing side defecting to yours... Scootaloo May 2016 #49

Just like when Reagan won libodem May 2016 #22

No. This primary has been horrible, and it could easily lead to that outcome. stillwaiting May 2016 #23

Yes. I don't believe the PTB will allow it. GeorgeGist May 2016 #24

The republican PTB couldn't keep him from getting their nomination. BillZBubb May 2016 #77

No. Igel May 2016 #25

I'll be surprised if he doesn't win AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #26

Not at all, the Bernie or bust folks will make this happen and will bear more responsibility Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #27

Maybe you should support a candidate who can actually win the general election. Redwoods Red May 2016 #51

Expected for you to blame voters nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #67

Put the blame on Hillary. If she 840high May 2016 #83

The losing candidate will bear responsibility for losing. cyberswede May 2016 #89

President drumpf appreciates your support. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #94

Fuck Trump. cyberswede May 2016 #99

Yea, but my bet is he will probably do that to all the rest of us a few times before we get wise nolabels May 2016 #149

Talk like that Nevernose May 2016 #115

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #137

FFS, widen the chasm even farther, yep, that really works well, NOT! n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #142

No, but it will all depend on which candidate can cheat the jwirr May 2016 #28

Yes. I think the PTB wants Hillary. nt valerief May 2016 #29

NO ViseGrip May 2016 #30

Is that what you want? liberal N proud May 2016 #31

No. nt LiberalElite May 2016 #32

Anyone not think he would even MIHOP an October surprise? JCMach1 May 2016 #33

Not surprised. tabasco May 2016 #34

not if the dnc coronates HRC. Merryland May 2016 #35

Anything is possible RandySF May 2016 #36

Yes would be shocked... Satch59 May 2016 #38

How many women are going to vote for the "blood coming out of her wherever" guy, Nye Bevan May 2016 #40

I wouldn't be too sure about that. woolldog May 2016 #45

And women, Black, Latino, and Asian voters will just sit on their hands and allow that to happen? YoungDemCA May 2016 #79

Only 1/3 of the country votes runaway hero May 2016 #117

Why do you assume women have to vote for him Kittycat May 2016 #131

Shocked? I'd wager money on it, and I don't gamble NightWatcher May 2016 #41

LOL Egnever May 2016 #55

How much? You're on. Nobody else will take my standing bet. whatthehey May 2016 #159

I will be. The RW populists in Europe will be envious of Trump's success. pampango May 2016 #42

No. And it will be thanks to Bernie Sanders, woolldog May 2016 #44

Of course. Nothing is ever Clinton's fault Scootaloo May 2016 #48

A losing candidate bears the blame for losing. cyberswede May 2016 #146

Nope. Scootaloo May 2016 #47

No. Vinca May 2016 #50

Somebody smarter than me... Bigmack May 2016 #52

No, it won't surprise me in the slightest. TDale313 May 2016 #53

Not really runaway hero May 2016 #56

nope. oldandhappy May 2016 #57

I will be Canadian. That's what I will be. Maru Kitteh May 2016 #58

Of course you wont. Egnever May 2016 #59

Also it would not surprise me if Clinton won runaway hero May 2016 #60

absolutely not. franannjo May 2016 #63

We still have two options... NewImproved Deal May 2016 #64

if the rich want him, it will happen. Dems haven't fought vote suppression and rigging enough yurbud May 2016 #65

Nope nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #66

We know why you post questions like this and it's a shame you have to disrupt GD book_worm May 2016 #68

Nothing in politics shock me anymore. Turin_C3PO May 2016 #69

I have said since he announced Cosmocat May 2016 #72

No, I won't be shocked at all. polly7 May 2016 #73

No nt riderinthestorm May 2016 #74

With 70% of women voting against trump...not a chance beachbumbob May 2016 #75

No, not at all. BillZBubb May 2016 #78

No surprise. It's (LOL) exceptionalism! immoderate May 2016 #80

No. 840high May 2016 #82

I will not be shocked at all. Odin2005 May 2016 #84

Sadly, democrats are often great at working against their own best interests. Now, TPTB RKP5637 May 2016 #143

If he runs against Hillary, I'd be surprised if he didn't. CharlotteVale May 2016 #85

Yes. old guy May 2016 #86

I would put better odds RandySF May 2016 #88

Not at all - but I live in TX TBF May 2016 #90

No and yes respectively. Donald Ian Rankin May 2016 #91

After 2000, I have a hard time trusting elections. Rex May 2016 #92

I won't be surprised at all. Blue_In_AK May 2016 #93

Who, Tinyhands Trump? Let's not make this a self-fulfilling prophecy by writing in someone's name Hekate May 2016 #95

Honest question here....where are people getting their data? Butterbean May 2016 #96

I'll be in a state of shock. Tommy_Carcetti May 2016 #97

No JosephAlanWatson May 2016 #100

he probably knows where the bodies are buried. nt silvershadow May 2016 #101

cali�The only R/D candidate worthy of the presidency is Bernie Sanders. CobaltBlue May 2016 #102

I expect him to win. Clinton is ensuring herself a loss. HooptieWagon May 2016 #103

Not at all. Bjornsdotter May 2016 #104

If the Democrats do not make it about his supporters, instead of about him.... kentuck May 2016 #105

People who vote for Trump, or stay at home, want a racist bigot in the White House. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #106

Neither. Just very, very sad and depressed. n/t mikehiggins May 2016 #107

From the comments I hear from my customers here in Michigan, not at all. Damn hard to find a Purveyor May 2016 #108

The democratic party machinery blatantly fails to understand the mood of this country and RKP5637 May 2016 #144

not going to happen MFM008 May 2016 #109

Not at all. Rybak187 May 2016 #110

Not at all. I kind of expect it. PeteSelman May 2016 #111

Unfortunately not Sejon May 2016 #112

While one can never be certain of these things BootinUp May 2016 #113

I am still hoping for either Bernie getting the nom or a viable 3rd party candidate basselope May 2016 #116

You post anti-Trump op then a underhanded "He's going to win" op. tenderfoot May 2016 #118

Not at all.. sendero May 2016 #119

No but that will be it for me. Initech May 2016 #121

Nope. 'Murica is full of idiots. beaglelover May 2016 #122

No. I consider a foregone conclusion if Hillary is the nominee. Chan790 May 2016 #123

no, just depressed quaker bill May 2016 #124

Nope. Jackilope May 2016 #127

For a long time now Trump has always been discussed as a loser, no way he could get RKP5637 May 2016 #129

No. Hidden racist vote. And guys online calling Hillary a "hag" and "harpy" sexist vote also Liberal_in_LA May 2016 #130

If the country decides to elect Trump, then the country decides to elect Trump. Trust Buster May 2016 #132

Nope. If she goes down in flames in GE, I will just watch. nt thereismore May 2016 #133

I have been resigned to the Republicans winning this election for a while now Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2016 #134

Nope. kiva May 2016 #135

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #139

I won't be surprised. mia May 2016 #140

Depends on the VP. Eric J in MN May 2016 #141

Surprised yes, shocked no. Jim Lane May 2016 #145

Nope. nt m-lekktor May 2016 #147

Dirty Donny? What about John 'Babyhands' Miller? DetlefK May 2016 #151

With all the advantages with which Hillary entered the 2008 primary, she still has not put the merrily May 2016 #152

This message was self-deleted by its author Turbineguy May 2016 #153

Not really. The only way he wins is if the powers that be want him to win ReasonableToo May 2016 #154

Nope. Shadowflash May 2016 #155

Not at all. AngryAmish May 2016 #156

Strange. I've offered bets he won't, with zero takers whatthehey May 2016 #157