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A HERETIC I AM

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60. Then let me put it this way;
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 08:55 PM
Jun 2012

That 75% of the traffic is flowing within a blanket, if you will, of just a few miles per hour variant of that target. It is my experience driving on freeways (or motorways, if that makes you more comfortable(!) that the vast majority of drivers do travel within a 4 or 5 MPH average and that range makes up the 75th percentile. If the speed limit is 70 and the conditions are fine, 75% of the cars on the roadway will be within just a few MPH of that speed generally. I drove up I 95 today from Melbourne, FL to Jacksonville (speed limit - 70 MPH almost the whole way), a trip of about 185 miles. The drive took me through varying bands of rain, some of it torrential. The vast majority of traffic seemed to flow within a few MPH of each other and that varied by as much as 30 MPH depending on how hard the rain was coming down. The point I am trying to make is that the drivers who pose the greatest risk were those that were either driving way above that 4 or 5 MPH blanket average or way below it.

I understand the point you make;

99% of people drive "outside that 75th percentile", by definition. You can measure a speed which one quarter is driving faster than, and three quarters slower than.

But I think you are trying to be too specific. Yes, of course 75% of drivers will not cover the same amount of ground at the exact same rate. But for the most part, it is certainly true that of those drivers that made the same trip I did, I arrived at my destination within just a few minutes of 75% of them.

I am not "try(ing) to make it a rule to drive at that speed", rather I am positing that it is much safer to drive at the average of the larger group, give or take 4 or 5 mph, not 10 or 20 or 30 MPH.

Is that perhaps a bit better?

As far as your use of the word in quotes 'undertaken', I had actually included that as a reference in my post re: my experience driving in England, but elected to edit it out. It's nice to know there are readers on DU who get that point.

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"if needed"??? unblock Jun 2012 #1
Have you ever driven across West Texas? hobbit709 Jun 2012 #4
as a matter of fact, i have. i've also done the austin - san antonio route many times. unblock Jun 2012 #30
Kindly stay the hell out of the left lane A HERETIC I AM Jun 2012 #33
yeah, i stick to the middle lane if there's a line of people like me, or the right lane if need be. unblock Jun 2012 #45
I see. You're part of the problem, then. A HERETIC I AM Jun 2012 #48
Agreed. Left lane bandits hifiguy Jun 2012 #49
you haven't looked at the statistics. disparity in speed SEEMS scary but in practice isn't a problem unblock Jun 2012 #51
There is a huge difference between a bicycle and an automobile, A HERETIC I AM Jun 2012 #52
Your 'basic safety rule' doesn't make much sense muriel_volestrangler Jun 2012 #57
Then let me put it this way; A HERETIC I AM Jun 2012 #60
"driving at the average (and then perhaps 75% will be at a similar speed)" does make more sense muriel_volestrangler Jun 2012 #63
Then I have misused the word "percentile" and for that I apologize. A HERETIC I AM Jun 2012 #67
+1 - and truth be told many folks drive that fast now TBF Jun 2012 #56
You drove 55 mph between San Antonio and Austin? 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #34
it's not illegal, lol! but no, i actually drive the speed limit (basically). unblock Jun 2012 #40
I would think from a safety standpoint having one person radically out of sync with everyone else 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #44
driving extremely slowly without hazards is ticketable, yes, but 55 is never extremely slow. unblock Jun 2012 #46
55 mph in West Texas?! Ron Obvious Jun 2012 #38
when i was young and stupid, sure, i drove fast. at some point i realized it wasn't worth it. unblock Jun 2012 #43
85 is nothing. guardian Jun 2012 #69
Dear me. Texans already drive 90. w8liftinglady Jun 2012 #2
My thoughts exactly hamsterjill Jun 2012 #12
This means you can now go 95 before being stopped by a cop. yellowcanine Jun 2012 #16
And not very well either Major Nikon Jun 2012 #24
I have went across Montana at 120+ a few times with no problems Go Vols Jun 2012 #3
Montana was forced to start write tickets for speeding by the USDOT. Ikonoklast Jun 2012 #7
I have a friend in Utah who regularly exercises his Ferraris hifiguy Jun 2012 #50
The people who were "exercising" these Ferraris Art_from_Ark Jun 2012 #72
There's not much traffic in the areas hifiguy Jun 2012 #76
Ever drive on the DC or Boston beltways? Eighty-five is pretty normal in the hammer lane. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #5
Illinoisans think that I-90 is the speed limit, and a blizzard is no reason to slow down at all. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #9
Been there. I've also been on empty 4-lane highways in Texas - wide open at any speed. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #10
Try driving in the Atlanta area on I-75 or 285. RebelOne Jun 2012 #19
I-85 and I-20, too... Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #22
Yeah, forgot to mention those. n/t RebelOne Jun 2012 #58
Same on California's I-5 Auggie Jun 2012 #41
75 should probably be the limit. Turbineguy Jun 2012 #6
It isn't the safety parameters of the vehicles that is the real issue. Ikonoklast Jun 2012 #11
I think safety parameters definitely come in to play in, say, SUVs. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #17
Straight line performance, no appreciable crosswinds, no road surface issues, minimal cross traffic Ikonoklast Jun 2012 #26
That's the problem, isn't it? Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #36
very true Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #23
They really need to make texting while driving part of the license test. GoneOffShore Jun 2012 #27
Funny, entertaining and VERY effective! JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #29
The old guy wasn't wearing his belt! progressoid Jun 2012 #47
I think that was part of the point. GoneOffShore Jun 2012 #53
And those who really do have skills loyalsister Jun 2012 #65
Yep. Agreed. I drive an Expedition for my business. 70 is about tops for safety in that thing. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #14
Not the first. Before the so-called oil crisis Montana had a very high speed limit, Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #8
We aren't supposed to remember those things KurtNYC Jun 2012 #15
You're right. Nothing existed before the internet or reagan, we were just props added Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #70
Montana did not have a daytime speed limit. If you could control your car at 100+ go at it. rustydog Jun 2012 #20
Montana had a "Reasonable and Prudent" statute A HERETIC I AM Jun 2012 #31
Montana's "reasonable and prudent" statute left it up to the officer ibegurpard Jun 2012 #68
Driven through Texas Xyzse Jun 2012 #13
LOL snooper2 Jun 2012 #25
Gee, increased deaths, and more pollution, what's not to love? MadHound Jun 2012 #18
Think of it as evolution in action. GoneOffShore Jun 2012 #28
It works for Germany 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #35
Better roads and cars help. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #37
And they take driving a LOT more seriously. alarimer Jun 2012 #62
Roads in Texas are just fine to handle traffic at 85 mph 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #66
Germany has real vehicle inspections, not the "almost anything gets a pass" system here in the US. mikeytherat Jun 2012 #81
Oh, the irony. AverageJoe90 Jun 2012 #21
And the best part is that modern vehicles are designed nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #32
First sane thing I've ever seen Texas do Taverner Jun 2012 #39
That's great news for Texas Catherina Jun 2012 #42
Snap - But we're addicted to huge cars that handle like boats. GoneOffShore Jun 2012 #54
bring it on... yeehaw. that means 92, right? oh yea, oh yea. nt seabeyond Jun 2012 #55
One thing though dsc Jun 2012 #59
You will never be able to go that fast between San Antonio and Austin. alarimer Jun 2012 #61
Amen! Thank You. Right on nilegirl Jun 2012 #79
The time I spent in San Antonio over the last couple of years, I thought the limit was 85! madinmaryland Jun 2012 #64
Back when parts of Big Sky did away with the speed limit, wasn't it 85 at night? RZM Jun 2012 #71
Link; A HERETIC I AM Jun 2012 #74
So they're "allowing" the status quo. krispos42 Jun 2012 #73
When will other states catch up? high density Jun 2012 #75
Live in Texas, but not a PROUD TEXAN! HATE IT HERE 85mph...in Texas??!! nilegirl Jun 2012 #77
Welcome to DU, nilegirl. Skinner Jun 2012 #78
Welcome to DU!!! CJCRANE Jun 2012 #80
Insurance companies' nightmare. Ambulance companies dream. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #82
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